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The Word Sculptor - Jan 11, 2010

Glen: Hey Jerd.

Jerd: What’s up Glen?

Glen: Nothing.

Jerd: Nothing? Yeah, right. There’s always something going on with you man.

Glen: Uh... just waiting around. I got this hint that tomorrow was supposed to be an important
day, but I have no knowledge of what's in store, so, I just put the date on today.

Jerd: I see that's your strategy for a lot of things. It's almost like with the Neanderthaler; you wait
and things come to you.

Glen: Well, they try to make me cry wolf. I don't fall for it . But at the same time, I have to be
careful, not just glance over things just in case something is brewing.

Jerd: Like what you said might happen in April, is it? Or March?

Glen: Yeah, from February 23rd to April 14th.

Jerd: So, I could basically just expect a 40-story tsunami.

Glen: Anything is possible when you're in the window.

Jerd: You know what it is? It's like, damn, what a waste it would be to, at least, get this far, learn
this much, and for everything to be destroyed. I want to try to prevent it.

Glen: We do what we can. In the end, the bad guys have their finger on the button and Creation
can stop it. But by stopping it, it may stop much more than we would want.

Jerd: Have you spoken to anybody? Anybody new?

Glen: There was a woman who called about a week ago, left a message saying that she knew you.

Jerd: Yeah, she told me she tried calling you but...

Glen: But I wasn't here, and I don't have a budget to call people back so... I'm not here, they gotta
try again.



Jerd: So right now, I'm going through this book, The Pilgrim's Progress. It's all about this guy's
journey to the celestial city , Mt. Zion.  They show you in there, they have to go to outer space.
That's the whole allegory I saw in there.

Glen: Outer space is usually their mirror image.

Jerd: What do you mean?

Glen: So, when they say look up, you should be looking down.

Jerd:  It's like a fake out. So yeah, I'm just doing that. Danea was telling me how you wanted to-
something about a conference, or something like that.

Glen:  Well, I told him when he asked me, what he should do, I said, whatever you decide to do,
that's what you decide to do . I'm not here to tell anybody what to do if you . If you guys have a
meeting, and you need some questions answered, and you think I can answer them, then, yeah,
you can arrange a conference call. The thing to remember, is the Cell doesn't like me to make pre-
arranged appointments for calls.

Jerd: Why is that? I thought a meeting somewhere would be dangerous.

Glen: Well, it's basically because they believe somebody can start tracking that I’m at a certain
place, at a certain time. So, it's not the one call that's the problem, it's the repeat calls at the same
time.

Jerd: If I was to do that, I don't think I'd plan with you. It would be random. I would just call.

Glen: Yeah. That's the best thing. Because it's that they have to organize what they do at their
end. If there's going to be something on a regular basis, then they have to have people out here
watching. Plus, they have to have trackers on the net, and trackers on the phone, what have you,
to see how this is all being coordinated . I know who the culprits are. T hat would be the T elus,
Yahoo.

Jerd: Have you ever heard any cases of people that you talk to, that they're being monitored?

Glen: I think everybody is being monitored now. It’s only a matter of computers being large
enough and capable enough.

Jerd: I'm thinking computers, they just see your daily activity on the net, but I'm talking about a
van parked on your corner or something.







Glen: You've got in the US alone , 16 agencies, that spy on people. Add to that , the telephone
companies, the cable companies, the satellite dish companies. Anybody that has a device is being
monitored. Now the extent of the monitoring depends on basically the profile built up over time.
The monitoring can be as simple as word recognition , down to voice recognition . Where no
matter where the person is, his voice is recognized as soon as he or she begins to speak.

Jerd: I think if you're getting monitored, that means you're doing a good job.

Glen: Well, if you're getting monitored, you know that the people who are running the system ,
are basically concerned about your activity. I can't go on the net and do any regular business, and
as I’ve got a told you, the neighborhood has had additional Bell wires put in, and antennas, and
whatever.

Jerd: So, even if you were to get a brand new computer…

Glen: It doesn’t matter.

Jerd: Oh, because they did something in your actual…

Glen: They pre-plan it. Everything is already in the computer, and it's basically all hidden behind
Gates. As they focus in on a person, they'll open up the gate, and some activity that has been pre-
planned, now starts to operate. That's basically what they do. They don't need to add things into
the computer. Everything is built in by Apple and Microsoft and all of those people.


Over time you can learn how to lock the gate again, and when you lock the gate, that pisses them
off, because they have to come back and open it. And you lock it again, and they open it etc.

Jerd: The game.

Glen: Yeah, the games, Gates plays.

Jerd: Hopefully I can get over there before the end of February, now? Is that what it's looking like?

Glen: I'm just listening. I still believe that the preferred date is November 11, 2011. But now that
I've been talking about it, that is subject to change . But sometimes they want to show that
they're smart and tough, and they can handle this, and do it when they want, and not when you
force them to, type of thing.

Jerd: W hat do you think they meant though , from that movie 2010 ? B ecause 2001 , 9-11
happened?

Glen: Well, it would be a great thing to do to get the masses  prepared for the year after you're
going to do something.

Jerd: But 2001, with 9/11, didn’t happen like that. They actually told you when it was going to
happen.

Glen: So, 2011 now means that it may happen in 2010. We know that Olympics  are a way they
use to loot a basic area. I think they've got all the tickets that they want sold for the Olympics in
Vancouver, and it wouldn't surprise me that something would happen just before the closing
ceremonies in Vancouver. The Cascade Mountains aren't too far away.

The tsunamis that come off the ocean , that they warn you in Oregon about , are always a
possibility. They've had so much rain in that area for the last month or so , I don't know if they'll
have any snow left for the Olympics. S till have a month to go , but the temperature has been in
the eight, nine degrees Fahrenheit , and certainly snow doesn't hang around long at that
temperature.

Jerd: A friend sent me a video of some Christian talk or show or whatever, with a guy talking about
End Times. It was depressing listening to that guy because he was like, yeah, there will be a new
earth and a new heaven and it will be a big ball of fire, type of thing. He was welcoming his own
destruction; we will go with god, the chosen people. That stuff really depresses me, Glen,
watching this willing fool.

Glen: god is not even going on this trip. The two computers are taking over, if you let them. god
is just the top dog among the troglodytes there, the moho bunch, and they're not invited. They
thought humans would be destroyed, and they would survive, but what would a computer want
to have a bunch of arrogant people who want to be adored, along for the ride?


Jerd: I thought the computer just followed orders and carried them out to perfection. But I guess
it's too perfect.

Glen: As perfect as one can be by having knowledge , computers can handle that task . They are
also in a position to scientifically relaunch life on the planet. So, it’s a matter…

Jerd: How could you give something else that - I know these Neanderthal ers, they were power
hungry, and people who crave power, they're usually scared of giving power. But how could they
just give it all to a machine?

Glen: Well, none of them had, the power. Each one had a piece of the power. They simply were
linked up, and their piece of the power downloaded. So, the computers, always are the ones that
end up with the assembled power . It's the principle of a critical mass . It is the totality of the
knowledge that gives the power, not the individual knowledge on one particular topic.


Jerd: The thing about knowledge is interesting. It's  relative, i t's always growing , i t's never
stagnant, it’s always changing; growing into something else. In one era we might think we know
something about a topic . Then a thousand years later we'll find that there's actually more to it
than that.

Glen: But imagine if you had a computer , a hundred thousand years ago , and you kept putting
into the computer everything you believed to be true, and the computer would match it up with
all it knew. It would say, okay, I can hang on to this piece or no, that's garbage, throw that out .
Had six billion people working for the computer gathering up information.



Every time the Olympics came, it got an update on all the construction of a human body . How
a thigh has to be built to make a high jump higher. How an arm can throw a spear further. All of
that information gets put into the computer every four years . So, and then you got Pulitzer
Prizes and Nobel Prizes. Everything that's known gets put in, because people turn it in for a prize.
They're looking for a gold medal or they're looking for a million dollar check from Nobel.

Jerd: That's what people are, almost like dogs in a sense; they just want that biscuit, that little pat
on the back.

Glen: Not realizing, in the end, that what they’re doing is providing data leading to their own
destruction.

Jerd: Sometimes I got to laugh at how stupid people are, or we all are.

Glen: Nitwits.

Jerd: Since we all have a piggy in the back, and that's linked to the computer, that means
information that we retrieve, it goes directly back to the computer then, right?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: Wow, so it's gaining all the experiences and...

Glen: Well obviously the piggy in the neck is not perfect, because they're working on a system
where piggy will be monitored 24/7.

Jerd:  Oh, so it's not monitored for us?

Glen:  At this stage of the game, it's not being monitored on a  minute-by-minute basis, the way
they plan to do it in the  super slave, they send out in space. At this stage of the game, it's only
monitored to the extent that it basically makes people feel worse , or feel better, depending on
the decisions that they're making. How they react to the drugs they get from doctors and all of
that stuff.

Jerd: So, all those drugs, like in psychiatry, and the whole medical profession , they're actually
linked to the medulla to manipulate.

Glen: Yeah. Plus, all the images you see on TV, that are either, seen by your eyes and put into your
brain, or heard by your ears and basically manufactured by your brain. Then these things create
fears or joys, whatever...




Jerd: Yeah, I noticed too in the media worl d with movies , a lot of the  movies they have to put
violence in them. I'm thinking this is because, they obviously bred killers and all types of people
from previous DNA. These movies and video games that have all this violence, is this to probably
trigger something?

Glen: It could certainly be a trigger if you have the recessive gene that responds to that stuff. But
it's more likely, the violence thing is more likely to get people to be immune to other people
dying. So, it doesn't have the same impact on the person when they hear about somebody dying
than it would if they hadn't been basically made immune over time.

Jerd: And I think too, because we’re at war, so they want those types of people.  You hear people
in the media talking about it like, oh, violence in video games.

Glen: But you see it also works on both sides, because if the controllers are losing a war, they can
get people to go against the winner of the war. Like if your country was winning in Pakistan, and
they didn't want you to win in Pakistan, they could start a process of counting the bod ies of
soldiers that died , in the way they did in Iraq to turn people off of being there . In Iraq, at the
beginning, it was fine because you sent all the money . Once the money got there , they wanted
you out. So, that's when CNN started a body count on Lou Dobb’s show every night.

Jerd: Lou Dobbs had so many people startled up on the North American Union. He was the one
that was given the privilege of opening that story to the masses. And all the patriotic people,
conspiracy people, they all...

Glen: Patriot. Think of it, it has the word riot.

Jerd: And Pa.

Glen: Yeah, Pa's Riot,

Jerd: And transmission.

Glen: A nd a pat on the back , or a tap, backwards. So, you open up the tap  for, or against
something, using patriots. Get the tap to start the riot.

Jerd: When you observe and analyze, you start noticing every little thing, like little sayings people
say, like um... they have...

Glen: An ulterior motive.

Jerd: Like I’ll hear people say, ah, I came from nothing, I came from the dirt man. I'm like, wow,
we really did come from the dirt. People say it as an expression, that because they work hard…



Glen: That's because they're not allowed to say, I came from shit.

Jerd: Some people say that too, I came from shit.

Glen: That's basically where they came from, coprolite; Fossilized shit. Hey, it's part of the journey,
but they'll tell you, now it's time to go back. Live in a world that acts like a toilet.




Jerd: So, I'm looking into the Middle East. I look for powerful figures in the Middle East. I noticed
Saudi Arabians; they seem to have a lot of...

Glen: Most of the people with the largest amount of power, you’ll never hear their names. They
go under monikers like éminence grise. Basically, means someone in the background , that you
never hear of, who has the power to make things happen.  As soon as people become public ,
their power is limited , because there are too many people watching . But when they're not
public, they can act in a totally different way from the…

Jerd: Oh yeah, like Donald Rumsfeld. He was doing his thing, then he became popular. Now you
don’t hear about him at all.

Glen: Quietly, he nominated the current Secretary of Defense, who replaced him, and he did it in
a sneaky fashion. He was then able to move out of the limelight , and nominate his replacement
and make it look like these two have no connection whatsoever.

Jerd: That’s a free and open, society, right? Have you spoke to Tom lately?

Glen: I haven't heard from him in a couple of weeks, I guess it is now, two weeks probably. I don't
think he'd be calling much if he’s planning his return.

Jerd: Oh, yeah. I think when I call you man, when I plan to come there, I don't know how I'll do it.

Glen: Just don't mention my name at the border.

Jerd: Yeah, oh hell no. I don't even know you anymore. Yeah, just even  that man. Those border
people are funny, one minute they'll be all over you, and sometimes they won't even pay attention
to who you are. It’s like a hit or miss, type of thing.

Glen: Hang on a second, there's a cat playing with my computer. Get off of that keyboard. He was
typing a message in on the keyboard.

Jerd: Do you think he was trying to communicate with you? Heh.

Glen: I got to go to the other side to read the screen. Just hang on a second. Yeah, they've brought
up a little doggie on the screen.

Jerd: Hmm. Doggy?

Glen: Yeah, it says, what do you want to search for? Pictures, music, or video?


Jerd: Oh, yeah. I have that.

Glen: And there's a little dog at the bottom. Change your preference.

Jerd: I remember reading an older article that you had. It was pretty interesting how you said, it
was somebody, I think was Will Hart. It was basically a journalist who felt there was conspiracy of
mainstream scientists were trying to hide the fact that they had artifacts that were dug up that
proved humanity was older than what was in mainstream.

Glen:  I don't even remember that, Jerd.

Jerd: Oh, you don't? Because in it you said…well, that was so long ago. I don’t expect you to
remember. In it they said that they found Caucasian people living in Asia before the yellow Asians.

Glen: I don’t know anything about that. It’s always possible that Yahoo or somebody like that,
went through my archives and changed things. But if you find a date or the article, let me know
and I'll go back and look. But I have no memory of that at all.

Jerd: Yeah, it was a while ago. I thought it was an interesting article.

Glen: I've never had basic access to my archives . That's been my problem on the Net from the
beginning, because I don't come into this with computer knowledge. Therefore, there always was
someone else handling that part of it, a webmaster of one kind or another.

Jerd: Oh, so you've never been able to go in your own archives and review?

Glen: No. I can look at things if I know what I want to look for, but I certainly don't have the time
to go back and read 10,000 different postings. If I do and I see something that I don't recognize, I
have no way of changing it, or deleting it, or whatever. Google had that power over me when my
site was on Google. Then it was in the hands of a couple of webmasters along the way.  I only
basically deal with today. I post things and then they're out of my hands. The system from the
military on down, has much more power to go and change anything that I do.

That's, of course, the same for anybody , that's not computer literate , that doesn't handle the
thing from beginning to end. There are some people who can basically set up a website and
control it from their own home without even going through anybody else's computer. Here, with
Bell Canada setting up a second computer and taking over possession of my name and address ,
and making me a local outlet on their computer, I have no guarantees that I ever am the first one
to see anything that is sent to me.

Jerd: I had a friend who had a program, but you would have to work with him. He would do this
program where you would let him into your computer and he could see everything that's going
on in your computer.



Glen: Well, that's what webmasters do. Every webmaster in the world goes into your computer
and they're not going into your computer by magic. They have a formula that all of them
understand. So, somebody at one of the 16 spy agencies can basically do that with their hands
tied behind their back, basically. They do it every day.

Jerd: Canada. So, Canada is the second Canaan, the land of milk and honey.

Glen: Yeah. Canada has three Ca’s in it. It's ca-ca-ca.

Jerd: Triple; three in one caca hehe.

Glen: Yeah, because an “n” can be turned sideways, so that gives you the second one , ca. “na”
becomes “ca”. “da”, because the letter is linked as the penultimate letter, you go back from the
one that's there, so the “d” becomes a “c”. If you understand what I mean that makes “ca-ca-ca”.
So, I don't know if there is anybody in the world with, ca-ca-ca-ca. But California, has one “ca” in
it. Cabala, has two “ca’s” in it.

If there's two L's, I guess you can basically call that a “C”. If you put the two L's together, it makes
a big U and you turn it sideways. That may be three “ca’s”. But I suspect that there must be a
fourth “ca” someplace; “ca-ca-ca-ca”. Everything is based upon the net product at the end. The
human has a net product at the end , called shit. In the dictionary, they call it excrement. For
humans, that is the least valuable thing they own. But for the controllers of our system, it's the
most valuable thing we own.


Jerd: So, the most thing of value people see today is money, and for the system that's the least
valuable.

Glen: The least valuable.

Jerd: Heh. As above so below.

Glen: It's very much in the sense of, an insurance company wants to acquire the infrastructure of
a nation, and it does it by lending money to the government . But the people , they don't even
think about owning the infrastructure , they just want to use it . So, it's two groups approaching
the problem; one for the short term, and one for the long run.

If you own the infrastructure  of a country, you own the country . So, insurance companies are
basically the real power and you never hear about them as power, but in fact they are the
éminence grise , the power behind the throne.  That's why the police work for them , and
manufacture false reports so that you'll sign a ticket to get out of the problem you're in . But
that's only the beginning.

Jerd: Oh yeah, when people cop out in court. That's their system, they know people will do that.
Most of the time when you get a ticket you can beat it in the court, if you want to take the time.
But they know people just want to pay it and go get on with their lives.



Glen: The minute they pay for it , that information is then used by the system , for things that
you never could even imagine.

Jerd: You learned this from your experience…

Glen: All of the things I know I’ve learned from my experience. I am told things that happen to
other people, and most of the time I don't believe it. Until such time as an experience in my own
life, proves it to be correct.

Jerd: That's like with this information I've been learning. It's like when you learn something, like
with the stuff you're saying, a lot of people say, no, it's not true. But for me, it's like I know it's
true. It's not, um...

Glen: Yeah, because you have it. You have it in your spine and you've accessed it and you feel it
and it's intuitive.

Jerd: That's why with me, it's intuitive with this stuff, but I guess it's not good enough for...

Glen: No, you've got to bring the intuition into your reason.

Jerd: Yeah, I know, I do that, but when you talk to other people, it's like something they have- and
I know with other people, I see if I mention to them, it sounds crazy, bu t I have that feeling that
all it is, that the knowledge could be buried inside them, it's just they just don't know it.

Glen: Well, there are two types of people you will speak to. There are those people who don't
know anything you're talking about, and therefore for them it can't be true. Then there are the
other people who know what you're talking about is true , but for one reason or another, they
have to deny that it's true. That can be for the simple reason that once they accept it's true, then
it moves on to the next step , they have a responsibility to do something, and they don't want
the responsibility. So, therefore, they deny, deny, deny.

Other people what security, and they find that security in joining religion, and in order to be in
religion part of their duties , is to accept information on faith alone. Therefore, no matter what
you tell them, they won’t change their mind because they've been programmed to believe
without reason. Then you have the smaller group that's basically paid to tell you you're a liar .
There are some of those on the net.

Jerd: Oh yeah, I got one guy, right? I'm looking at his email right now. He'll send me emails and I
would just respond, like, I’ll send your post or something. And he'll just send... Look what he says
right here, he goes, I have no affinity with evil now. Evil is death. Life is good. I love life, I love
good. Being in a mental institution is bad. Being sane is good. I hate evil and I love good. We are
friends because we love good and despise evil. I don't have any power over plausibility deniable
weapons…


Glen: What he believes is good, is equal to instant gratification.

Jerd: He’s thinking in a Zoroastrian type of thinking.

Glen: If there's a problem, if he has to do some work in order to define  something, he puts that
in the category of the evil. It's the same thing if you think of a guy who walks into a physics class
and he doesn't understand it. So, he walks out in the hallway and says all physicists are stupid.
There's a task to admitting something is possible. That task falls upon you to do some searching,
and the lazy people don't want to go through that process.

Jerd: Yeah, and this same person, he says, wealth is good, poverty is evil. And he says, I am part
of Jerusalem Freemasonry, the light is good, darkness is bad. I'm just like, wow. These are the
things that I see with people on the net…

Glen: He has pigeonholed everything.

Jerd: It's sad. Another person I see on the internet too- I know people who are into- I mean I don't
know them personally but from what I see on the net, it's a community out there that calls
themselves witches and they're all into the old pagan religion.  I'll try to explain to them that all
this religion, even the paganism was all created by priests for you to believe in. What’s the sense
in worshiping nature? I don’t see any sense in it.

Glen: You've got to remember Jerd, that there's no such thing as only black and white.


Jerd: Oh yeah. That's a logic in a box, you’re putting yourself into by even thinking like that.


Glen: Gray is relative. It depends on the situation. The Jewish people have this story about Anne
Frank. It brings to mind, things during the war. One would have to say, okay, lying is bad, and that's
black and white. But if someone came to your door dressed like a natsi, and had a gun in his hand
and was looking for a little Jewish girl that they wanted to kill, and you had that little girl hidden
in your attic , or in your closet , or whatever. If telling the guy at the door that you don't know
where she is, or that she's not at your place, technically speaking, that's a lie.

Does that mean it falls into the category of bad ?  Black is black, white is white? Or really, what
you're doing is not for your personal benefit? As a matter of fact, it might put you in some danger
by not telling the guy at the door the whole story , because if he searches and find s the person,
you're in trouble. But that's always what has to be considered. When you're talking, is it for self-
serving reasons, or is it the bigger picture?

Jerd: Yeah, that whole black and white thinking. I don't know if you remember when George Bush
Sr. said, this is good and evil, right and wrong. This guy talking to millions of people  to believe in
this type of thinking. But that's how we're brought up to think that way.

Glen: That's religion. Religion is pigeonholing.

Jerd: But they never see. The religious people, they always see the other person as evil and their
inner circle is good.

Glen: Sit in a tavern and try to find somebody who'll say, I'm drunk.

Jerd: Haha. That's a good analogy.

Glen: Same thing as going to church. Sit in a church and try to find a person in church who says,
this is spiritual, therefore it's got to be the same as spirits, so I'll put it on a shelf with scotch, rye,
beer, gin and vodka. It doesn't happen. They make up their own definition and they stick to it .
What they're looking for in the long run is instant gratification . Don't give me a problem , don't
cost me any money, don't make my life more difficult than it has to be . You could replace all of
that with me, myself, and I.

Jerd: Yeah, well, that's the whole West; instant gratification. It's funny, I see people that I know,
who know me. I see them making mistakes that are so obvious , like you could just prevent it. I
guess that's the worst thing you learn, but i f you try to point out…it's like I'm a ghost in a sense
when I’m around people. It's like I'm there, but I'm not there.

Glen: I have the same problem all the time. Why bother, people say. Why bother telling the police
that they're agents for insurance companies, and they're stealing from the people? Why bother?
I said, because it's true.

Jerd: It fits in reality.


Glen: It has nothing to do with how comfortable that's going to make me , or uncomfortable
that's going to make me. It's true. If that means they want to cause me trouble because I’ve said
it, I’ll take the trouble, thank you. If somebody wants to kill me because of the things I say, I'll take
death over shutting up, when I see something that's really out of hand . The world is out hand
right now.

Jerd: Tell me about it.

Glen: Everything's in the hands of people who are simply looking to make their life better.

Jerd:  Yeah man, I’m so sick of it. Ambika was telling me that she was talking to a friend and she
tried to explain that there was a bigger picture, and the person tried getting confrontational. She’s
like, wow, I can’t talk to anybody about anything anymore.

Glen: Yeah. They’re not that many people left who are prepared take on the problem when it's
this big.

Jerd: Even the people who are aware. People that I see, like on a forum that I have. There are
people on there that know this, but then they still deny it. I don’t understand, maybe that piggy
in the back is really effective, or something.

Glen: I’ve been in an elevator with a policeman in a courthouse, and I’ve told the policeman that,
in fact, he was defending the wrong side of the argument. He said, I know Mr. Kealey, everybody
knows you're right. We know, but we've got children, we've got to send them to school. We've
got to pay the mortgage. Excuse me?

Jerd: They don't see the whole big picture because they don't know. Because if they did know,
they wouldn't be doing what they did. They know in that sense , yeah, you're right, but do they
realize how in the end nobody wins? No.

Glen: They're the cause of the problem. The problem doesn't exist if people stop thinking that
way. Because there would be nobody out servicing the needs of the controllers . But because
everybody wants to make their life  as simple and as easy as possible, the end product is
everybody's life is worse off. I'm not a pacifist. I actually accept the fact that at some time there
has to be destruction, in the same way as when you look at suicide bombers.

We had suicide bombers in my life, when I was just a baby, they were called kamikaze. They solved
the problem of kamikazes, not by trying to catch one at a time, but by going to the kamikaze ’s
home town, and dropping a nuclear bomb on it. That happened twice, and everybody said, hey,
I’m going to stop this. Why are they not doing the same thing on a valley in Pakistan, called the
Swat Valley?

Jerd: Because they run the show in the Middle East.

Glen: Because they have a benefit to gain from not doing it. The benefit they gain in the system,
is creating stress.

Jerd: And they get to control more people with terrorism.

Glen: The more stressed people are, the more they're willing to give up whatever it is they have.

Jerd: Yeah, it’s like one guy who mentioned that he was a supposed truth seeker or whatever. His
name was Aaron Russo and people glorified this guy. He said that he was friends with one of the
Rockefellers. The Rockefeller told him before 9-11 [this is what he claims] oh yes, soon there will
be a great business. There will be an enemy that they'll never be able to find…

Glen: Soon there will be a cleansing of those people.

Jerd: Yeah. But this guy, Aaron Russo, he died a little while after that of cancer.  But he went out
on this whole big campaign of income tax and everything . But then I realized that with this guy,
you can't be friends with people like that and just leave them . He was in a circle of people ,
because he made a lot of money. He directed a movie called Trading Places and then you got to
look at his name, Aaron Russo.

Glen: Yeah. Aaron was…

Jerd: The high priest.

Glen: Moses’s brother.

Jerd: Yeah, and his last name Russo, oh man. Especially when I started breaking down names, and
I realized that. Wow. People still to this day, glorify the guy.

Glen: The minute they have a sister that pointed the finger at them , she died. A little help from
their friends.




Jerd: Yeah, so the West is instant gratification because we're like- our thinking, you know, its yet
we're free in a sense because we have to do that job of going to outer space. But yet the logic of
people in the West is a left to right type of thing. They can see only in the tunnel; they can't see
around it.

Glen: Well, it's because they’re like in a canoe in the middle of the ocean, and they haven't got a
clue where they've been . Therefore, they don’t a  set a plan to go anywhere , so they just bob
around, waiting for some passing ship to pick them up.

Jerd: I remember when you said there in a post that you put, it's called Word Bound. It was about
how people just put themselves in boxes with these words.


I posted it on a social network, somebody mentioned to me, they said, yeah, that's why people
don't understand what they're saying in Buddhism, because Buddhism is like the West but the
total opposite, the y’re non-linear, the West is linear.  That's why you can't understand the
concepts that they’re saying.

Glen: Well, a bud is a simple thing to grasp. In French, it's called a scion, which I'm sure is the
basis of the word Zion. A scion is basically a cutting. You take a cutting and you graft it on a plant,
and it grows into a different plant. That's what's happening in our world today.

Jerd: That's what Buddhism... it did do that. It sprouted like... unbelievable.

Glen: It was a cutting out of the Brahmins of India. Not an accident they're talking about men
with bras . They made a cutting that would be  sent out into the world to pacify us ; love thy
neighbor…love everybody, no matter how stupid they are . No matter how violent they are . No
matter how control freaks they are. My point of view is, NO, accept everybody as an equal, until
they show that they're not.

Jerd: But nobody is equal. And even that word, like the word...

Glen: Yeah, but it's a place in the middle where you begin. Let them show you who they are.

Jerd: The people show me who they are. There’s people, right, who are just hypocrites, and they
prove it over and over. They'll say one thing and then just contradict themselves every day. Every
day I see some hypocritical bullshit.

Glen: Well you don't have to look very far in language to point out…

Jerd: I should call them ducks, right? Those type of people.

Glen: Hypocrites follow Hippocratic oaths. Hippo was a place in North Africa where the doctors
of the Christian Church came from. If you look at a map of the world very carefully, the southwest
corner of France is shaped like the face of a hippo.



Jerd: Yeah, France, it's interesting, that place. You said that they worked two sides…

Glen: Two faced.

Jerd: Yeah. Bisexual was another term.

Glen: Eh?

Jerd: You called them bisexual, meaning like Iago, they were like number nine, they just played
both sides.

Glen: I don’t call them bisexual; you would have to be a person to be bisexual.

Jerd: Yeah, but bi…

Glen: I call them hypocrites because that's what they tell me they are . Not only do they act like
hypocrites, but they have designed their country to create the face of a hippo .  They've made it
the second face on that peninsula at the southwest corner of Europe, where Portugal is the first
face. Spain is the head behind that first face. T hen it's followed by France, which has the face of
a hippo. So, they're telling me that they are two-faced and hypocritical.



I was raised in French, and I can guarantee you, that's true. But I can also guarantee you , that
there are not too many places in the world that aren't  hypocritical. Most of them don't go out
and prove it every day.

Jerd: The French, they're the ones who watch American shows and then go complain about them.
But they're supposedly supposed to be like Abel, and Germany is the other side. Because you said
they were both part...

Glen: Cain and Abel. Cain is the builder, and Abel is the musician ; the professional, the artist in
the background who complains all the time, but does nothing of any significance except to help
the system become worse. How many people in the world of acting are, in fact, trying to help the
world? No. Whenever the world sets up a scam, such as merging the different races by creating
slavery, then you get a whole bunch of people within the media , who run out to adopt children
and bring them in their family, and pretend they're doing that for the betterment of the child.

Jerd: You always see them, the actors, oh yes, donating so  and so money to some big scam
corporation that's going to use it for something else.

Glen: It all has to do with what their agents tell them they need to do , in order to satisfy the
needs of the system that pays their salary.

Jerd: So, number two is number one because  look at them, all of them have private agents that
tell them what to do. So those are the ones with real power, so people should really be looking
at those agents who run the show.

Glen: The agents are much more powerful than the cosmetic one, out in front.


Jerd: Wow, wow, so like...

Glen: See Jerd, you got it in ya. All you need to do is talk it through.

Jerd: Yeah, that's what happens. That's how I am . I gotta talk to people and then it comes out.
That is a good thing when I talk to people, even people who don't, I guess, know what I know, or
whatever. But I'll ask them questions and they'll say things to me that astounds me, but they don't
even realize what they're saying to me. Because that's why I can't be a hermit, because I actually
learn from talking to people in the world.

Glen:  You don't learn simply from yourself because you get hints from yourself, and then you've
got to go out and prove it to yourself. You don't need to prove it to the world, you need to prove
it to yourself that something makes sense or doesn't make sense, and to do that you have to be
in touch with other people. Hermits can’t do that.

Jerd: Maybe that was probably a control mechanism that the Neanderthal er was using on their
own servants, like the early reformers and stuff. Because I hear about these reformers like the
Essenes, these people were hermits and lived in caves.

Glen: But they weren't really hermits, they lived as groups of people. They had  basically
discussions among themselves. A real hermit lives alone. A lot of people are hermits part of their
day because they meditate. When you meditate, you're basically taking on the role of a hermit.

Jerd: Yeah, that word meditate, you’re just in the middle. You're not fully there.

Glen: Nature made certain that you didn't need to meditate by making sleep a part of your day.
Go to sleep, [you] don't need to go meditate, because the rest of the day, the other two thirds of
your day, you need one for work, so that you can accomplish something, not necessarily work for
pay. The other thing is letting go a little bit , a little of relaxation. Most people don't have much
relaxation anymore, because they have to drive to work.

Your boss doesn't include your travel to work as part of your eight hours you owe to him. So, that
has to be taken away from  your rest and relaxation period that basically allows you to let go of
the things that stress you every day, and just take it easy. A balance is what's needed; sleep, rest,
recreation and work.

Jerd: Yeah, for me, my job actually ruins, it takes away so much from me. People say, oh, you like
to read and all of that stuff; do it after work. But when I get off of work, I can’t concentrate
because I’m so tired. If I want to read something, it’s usually better in the morning early because…


Glen: Well, you should always arrange your life so you don't have to spend two hours traveling to
work, and two hours traveling back from work . That means that  after work, come home, relax,
have a nap, eat supper, and then do your reading.

Jerd: Oh yeah, like me, I'm always late to work Glen. My manager, he kind of hates it. My job, you
can get away with things, I'm always coming late to work. I'll tell him, I don't want to do this, and
he's like, you should be happy to do this. I look at him like, are you kidding me man? It sucks man.
He's like, nah, you're a real man, you work. It's the philosophy of slavery.

Glen: You can work and you don't have to work for anybody else.

Jerd: How do you handle people that you talk to that just can't be wrong about anything? Because
that's who I have to deal with ; my manager at work. It’s gotten so bad that  I can't even have a
conversation.

Glen: Maybe you should ask him one day to prove the things in a manner that you will understand,
not just him, because you can't seem to grasp what he means by  work. Your work is good , ya
know, that type of stuff. If that's the case, would he do it?

Jerd: He loves it, he works like an animal.

Glen: Yeah, but would he do your job?

Jerd: Yeah, he does my job. He does my job and he does more of it. What I do is pretty simple.
His job is basically- it's not like-…

Glen: But would he quit what his job is and do your job?

Jerd: Oh no, he's not getting paid.

Glen: Exactly.

Jerd: But he does the most hours because he's on a salary. He has to run the store and the owner
of the store is not there, he doesn't do anything, he just writes the paychecks and checks stuff.
But he has to run the store. Sometimes he’ll have to be there from nine to eight, sometimes open
to close.

Glen: He reminds me of how I used to be when I was a robot. I used to run a printing operation,
electronic printing, and it was open twenty-four hours a day.  I felt I  had to be there 24 hours
today, but I would end up being there 14 or 16 hours a day. That would mean I had no time for
anything else. What I discovered along the way, is that's like taking a spring , or an elastic band,
and stretching it as far as you can for 16 hours a day, and not letting go. After a while, if you do
that to a spring, or an elastic band, when you let go, it doesn't go back to its original position .
It has atrophied and is unable to move. So, at one stage of the game, I said, I got to stop this.


Jerd: Yeah, it’ll get bad. That reminds me, on Friday I was talking to a customer who came in, He
was talking about how he had to go to a psychiatrist. We were talking about that whole thing…

Glen: You don't have any benefit from going to a psychiatrist.

Jerd: Of course, you don’t.

Glen: It just adds to your stress trying to figure out how you're going to pay them.

Jerd: He was telling me  the reason why he was going was because, like everybody else, they all
work, and people lose their jobs and they don't feel sane anymore when they don't have their
jobs.

Glen: What I did was from Friday noon until Monday noon, I was out of town. I was by a lake in
the woods , clearing path , making preparations , for when I would retire, I would build a
community out in a place, it happened to be in the province of Quebec. Close enough to ski hills,
close enough to golf courses , that kind of thing . An hour from the city . I had no interest in golf,
and I had no interest in skiing but I just liked the environment of being outdoors. So, clearing the
woods, making paths, people could walk around in. Building a cabin, that kind of stuff.

That’s where I  got off my habit of being at work, at the business; paying business. I did it in a
manner that I just explained, going out into nature. That's why I ended up here. The only thing I
couldn't do in nature, while I was running a business, was to have animals. Because you can't say
to the animals, sorry, I’m going back to work, see you next Friday. So, at the end, when you can
retire, then you can add the element, that is animals . Between nature and the animals , that's
where you really learn.


You learn much more under those conditions where your brain is not being stressed every day,
every moment, by having to do things for a reason you probably don't even understand , b ut
somebody set up a system that you had to be part of. Whereas, when you're on a farm, and you're
making paths through the bush, bringing in firewood, cutting grass , smelling the smells, looking
at the leaves and the trees , and how they change over seasons . Then watching life and death
scenarios that happen every day when you have animals ; goats, pigs and chickens. Watching
how a donkey makes a lot of noise, but does nothing, and gets away with it, just like unions.

Jerd: Only animals I get to watch are squirrels, crows and seagulls.

Glen: They're practically all the same branch of animals. You've got to diversify a little bit.

Jerd: I think about those people who don't live in societies like how we live . Who don't have a
concept of what Monday to Friday is. Every day is just another day. Even how we look at days is
categorized and standardized.

Glen: It's basically addictive however, and when you're in there, and you're doing something that
you're being paid to do or whatever , it's addictive. You want to do the best you can in order to
succeed for the owners or whatever. That's not the same feeling you get when you're serving
breakfast in bed to a bunch of goats, delivering water to chickens.

Jerd: When you give them the chicken feed, you say, hey, do you enjoy that?

Glen: They don't even appreciate it. heh

Jerd: Haha. They just take it.

Glen: They take it and they want more. But you live with that, and you see how it basically gives
you all kinds of lessons about how things function in nature , and in the other world that you
left behind. Then you can sit down for an hour or two, and talk to somebody from Long Island, or
California, or this afternoon from Slovenia, other times from Scotland, and listen to other people's
perspective and exchange yours with theirs and see if there's anything that you should learn…

Jerd: Oh yeah, a guy from Brazil said hello, by the way, he told me to tell you.

Glen: Yeah, he sent me an email as well.  People who travel all over the world , or are born in
different places than we are, all have something different to offer.

Jerd: Yeah, the people that I know, I tell them do you think  it's a coincidence that the way your
life turned out, and the things that you're doing right now , how we're talking right now … more
and more every day I believe that it's not a coincidence it's almost…




Glen: No, it's not a coincidence, it's you had in your spine, a recessive program that needed to
be filled  with current data, and without realizing it , you go through your life seeking an out .
Eventually, you find the pieces that you can attach. In some religious communities, they talk about
soul mates, well, it's not much different. When part of your life  finds an attachment to another
person who thinks about the same things you do , not necessarily thinks like you do, but thinks
about the things you think about.

To attach yourself to a group of people who are doing that is one of the most fulfilling parts of
life. Take it from guy who's in his 70th year , talking to a guy who's in his 26th year.  The only
difference between you and me, is I got to hear the story more times than you did. And attached
myself to the pieces that fitted as reality in my reason . Then knew that I was merging my
intuitive side with my reasoning side , becoming better balanced . An equilibrium that I hadn't
expected. Then I'm shocked by looking at the flag of Korea and seeing that they use it as a sign
on their flag.  That 69 is the equilibrium number. It's fun.

In any event, Jerd, nice talking to you. Nice talking with you, at you, to me.

Jerd: You gotta go serve the goat masters tomorrow.

Glen: I gotta go prepare myself for tomorrow. What time is it anyways?

Jerd: 8:18

Glen: 8:18, yeah. Okay.

Jerd: Alright Glen.

Glen: Talk to you again. Bye for now.

Jerd: Alright.