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The Seed of Human Beings is DNA, it's Genome. It's what Religion calls the Soul -  March 2010

Glen: Hello.

Jerd: Hey Glen. What’s going on? How was your day?

Glen: What's happening? What did you have for supper?

Jerd: I only had lunch. I had ox tail.

Glen: You're only getting two meals a day now?

Jerd: No. Sometimes I get two meals a day. Sometimes I wake up late because I work at night. It’s
my schedule because I usually work anywhere from one or four, to nine or ten o’clock at night.
When I get home, I usually do a lot of research and I end up going to sleep sometimes at five in
the morning.

Glen: Then you're not in time for breakfast.

Jerd: Yeah. I know if I get up there to the farm that's probably going to change. I'll be up at what,
nine in the morning?

Glen: Nine?! Half the day's gone by.

Jerd: Oh wow.

Glen: Scottie gets up at 8:30.

Jerd: I would have to go to sleep at like 10 o'clock at night.

Glen: I try to get to bed by around 9 o'clock , and I get up around 2 or 3 , do what I have to do.
Feed the cats and check the net and that kind of stuff. Sometimes I get finished doing that just in
time to go out to feed the outside animals. Other times I get an hour of sleep in between.

Jerd: From the impression people have given me, it's a hard type of life.  I guess if you were mass
producing farm crops…

Glen: We're just a hobby farm. We don't produce anything but answers.

Jerd: Well, that seems like something I’d rather be doing.

Glen: It's not really a hard life. There's some jobs that aren't fun. Digging a hole for a fence post
may not be fun. Cleaning out a stall may not be fun. But it's not really that much of a problem.



Jerd: Did anybody start digging in that area that you said needed a core sample?

Glen: Well, we haven't got the money to dig yet, so we're still waiting for...

Jerd: How many feet?

Glen: 125 feet, through rock.

Jerd: Oh, rock.

Glen: Yeah, that's about $7500 to $8000.

Jerd: If I had a steady job, I could probably save up maybe half that.

Glen: Well, maybe when we have enough people. If you had 13 people each putting in about
$500, $600, that's a lot easier. If you have 50 people, that's even easier. Or you have some Tiger
Woods type who walks in off the street and says, what do you need? Or they pay me for my book
and then I can do it out of that. Or they give me back the money they stole from me. JI mean, any
of those options are fine.

Jerd: Yeah, I was thinking, Glen, I'm so tired of all the bullshit and I have to sculpt through it all.
It's a stressful job. Sometimes I wish there wasn't all this bullshit attached to it.

Glen: The only way that can happen is if we do our job. Because it got in the mess we're in by a
critical mass doing the willing of its own will. We need the willing of Creation's will . Put things
back on track. Get that timing belt into the proper tooth.

Jerd: I heard somebody mention that if you're doing the will of yourself, then you're doing the
will of the universe. So, when you're doing the will of the universe, you can't go wrong. It's similar
to what you're saying.

Glen: Similar. Creation created the universe. I don't think the universe has a will . Creation sits
outside of the universe in whatever form it takes, and made it all happen. It's waiting for us to
repair it or shut it down . I don't think there's anyone in their right mind who would think this
world is working properly.

Jerd: I think everybody's just skewed.  I was listening to a n interview of guy who writes comic
books. They made this movie after his comics.  He seems to know some things, but he veers off
into the magician stuff. He probably follows that stuff like a religion. When you look at his work,
you can see he knows something.



Glen: There are a lot of people who know portions because 3% of the people of the planet
basically control the other 97%. Those people are all on a need-to-know basis, much wider than
the average guy who shows up at a lodge type of thing.

Jerd: These people that I see, they seem to know about the destruction of the people on the
surface, and they know about the computer, so, I'm wondering, why?

Glen: The most dangerous thing in the world today is the false information which is put out as
truth on the internet . Then you get millions of people on the internet who have been totally
misled. Yet they believe that what they have found on the internet is truth. So, it's a competing
gang, to the gang who read the religious manuals of any, and all religion.

So, you've got a gang like that who believe because it's in the book.  You've got another gang of
equal size, if not larger in the long run, who believe it because it's on the internet. Then you have
another group of people who don't believe anything. And a very small group of people…

Jerd: I want to find a way to contact these people.

Glen: There is a way to contact them, and that's to will our will. Creation then makes it possible
for the masses to hear.

Jerd: Like this one guy, he was on TV and stuff. I have a feeling that if I were to tell somebody, I'll
connect some dots, it would probably change their direction.

Glen: You can't make a judgment for all people who are basically on TV or in the news or whatever.
A vast majority of them are basically pushing the system in one way or another because they
benefit from it.

Jerd: Exactly. That's what the common denominator is.  They all push the system.  They seem to
personally believe in some of the bullshit, like what this guy was saying about magic. Inside that,
I know it's a code or allegory or whatever.

Glen: Science.

Jerd: Yeah, exactly.

Glen: Magic is the science you don't yet understand.

Jerd: But the way he would talk about magic would be like tarot cards and stuff like that.

Glen: That's the Magi [ Majar - Magar?]

Jerd: Yeah, exactly. That's what he claimed to be was a Magi.



Glen: They're just the priests of Zoroastrianism.

Jerd: Yep. So, from looking over the guy's work, and I listening to some of the
stuff he said, some of it was the same thing you said.

Glen: There's no doubt that I don't say anything that other people
don't know. What they don't seem to have, however, is the entire
picture. For the entire picture to be known, you must be in touch
through your spine to your intuition.

Jerd: This person seems to have intuition.  I feel like most people, if
they knew the whole picture, you'd have to do something about it.

Glen: You know, just because someone is not on your side at this particular
moment doesn't mean that should they, in fact, hear the story of reality, that at first, they'll deny
and then they'll go through a process of facing the facts as they come across them in their own
lives and eventually can change positions. After all, that's what I did. As I gathered the evidence
that became indisputable, preponderance of the evidence suggests that it is the equivalent of
proof, even though much of it is circumstantial.

But when it totally adds up and can be verified daily through your daily activity, how could a
person who goes through that process continue to basically devote their entire lives to making
money, to pushing a product, to endorsing the system of democracy, fascism, communism? You
come to grasp quite easily that those are all control mechanisms.

When a Bible tells you, I'm god and I'm telling you adore me, you've got to have some second
thoughts about what kind of being thinks the most important thing is for people to go around
adoring him. That's a control freak.

Jerd: But people have a problem looking at religion objectively.

Glen: Yeah, because their mom told them when they were babies and little children. And would
mothers lie? Absolutely not. Nobody believes their mother would lie.  But they don't take into
consideration that their mother was told a lie by their own mother, not recognizing it as a lie ,
they then repeat it. That's what people do, they repeat what they believe is the truth, and surely
mom wouldn't have lied. A mom got lied to by her mom, and her mom by her mom.

Jerd: It's just a propagated lie. But I was looking at a guy named Aleister Crowley, and you see he
came from a Protestant family, who were deeply religious. He said his father died and after that
he just rebelled against it.  Then he started joining secret societies and later on  started this
movement, which was a nihilism, black magic type of thing.  He was into superstitious stuff, like
summoning demons. Throughout his life he worked for the British intelligence.

It seemed like he was experimenting on people with drugs, for the purpose  of controlling
populations because his philosophy was adopted into the hippie movement. At the end of his life,
it seemed like he knew that he was being used.

Glen: Most of the people who are deeply religious, as they approach death, basically make a
mental analysis of what they've been doing and come out with a statement like Mother Teresa
and other people like that.  That what they believed is not true and it's too late for them to
change directions.

But they're giving a hint to other people to start looking into this stuff, not on your deathbed,
but as soon as possible . Now, it's one thing for guys like you to be looking for answers when
you're in your 20s, but you don't yet have all the data that you're going to have by the time
you're 40. Up to 20 is childhood. Up to 40 is learning. Up to 60 is using the things you've learned.
Up to 80 is telling other people who won't listen.

Jerd: Wow, sounds like an interesting journey. What happened to me when I first was questioning
things, I started latching on to the Bible, but that didn't last too long.  I saw everything was a lie,
gradually, and here I am now, talking to you.

Glen: What a silly thing to do , hehe. It's all about silly balls. Leave the words behind and deal
with the syllables.

Jerd: That's what I do , and what I find, is something totally different than what the established
meaning are. Reading Francis Bacon, he even said that.  It's his fault we're speaking English right
now. He admitted that. I think about guys like him, how he did so much to push the system.




Glen: He was a finance minister, chancellor of the Exchequer. He was a
scientist and an insider who was provided with information from
headquarters. He was telling you by his name, “France is”. It's the real
Bacon, which is the B-A con.

Jerd: I don't know if that's a guy who at the end of  his life was really
thinking that he made some mistakes. He probably thought, I'm doing the
great work.

Glen: He was fired at the end of his career.  He was accused of stealing ,
and who knows the real reasons behind their attacks on him.

Jerd: That always happens to these guys. Like what you were saying with
Arthur C. Clarke at the end of his career , supposedly something about
child molestation or something. Don’t people see a pattern here?  That
the system always uses you up and throws you out?

Glen: Because they want no continuity in the line of people who arrive at
proper conclusions. So, they put them in a position of pain and anguish
and then offer to basically make a deal with them if they'll shut up, and
that's basically Clarke. He goes off to Sri Lanka and they leave him alone
and make sure that his books can sell.

But if you, to the end say no, no, no, no, then they have a problem.  The
answer is not always just to dispose of somebody.  Because that turns a
whole bunch of people on to looking at the reasons why this was done.
John Kennedy had 10,000 books written about his assassination.  So, it's
not always the best thing for them to do. So, they prefer to do it quietly
and make it appear as if you had a stroke or a heart attack or whatever,
so, they induce things.

The problem they have is some people are more immune than others ,
and it's a genetic thing.  You can enhance your immunity during life.
Prevent some of the things they attempt to do to you that way. Your body
is self -generating. You have the ability to prevent disease to a certain
extent, and you have an ability to repair things that happen that need
repair. It's just a matter of doing it.

Jerd: Well, I hope what happened to my father doesn't happen to me.  I look at him and it’s like
you said, they turned him off. He's just totally handicapped.

Glen: Shriveled.


Jerd: He can't communicate with people.

Glen: Is he dead yet?

Jerd: No. He just can't understand what you're saying to him. He just forgot how to speak English.

Glen: Well, that's a version of senility and Alzheimer's and all of those things. They know certain
things and they can't be allowed to share that. So, they do what they can to shut them down. But
it's because he didn't learn along the way how to build up his immunity, how to deal with repairs
to the body. It doesn't last forever. The best we can do in this world is about 120 years.  But if
you're in good health for 120 years, you can get a lot of information to people and find the number
of people that form critical mass.

Jerd: Do you ever see those people who live to 120 years old, 100 years old?

Glen: My mother was in an old age home and there were people around her that were in the
100-year range. My mother died when she was 91, had a heart attack when she was something
like 50. So, she basically was able to almost double her life from the time she had a heart attack.
So, she had some ability to repair herself. If you look at Queen M um there that died, Elizabeth's
mother, she was in good shape into her 90s.  I guess she died when she was about 100, but she
was in good shape until she was 95 or 98.

Jerd: It seems like that time, like from 40 on, was a really important time someone’s life because
that's when you're probably most of a threat.

Glen: It's a matter of keeping busy. If you're busy, you don't have time to age. Your body gets old,
but your brain doesn't find out.

Jerd: You're tricking yourself. We are living longer, I guess.

Glen: The average age in Canada for women is approaching 80, for men about 77.

Jerd: Why do you think that women live longer?

Glen: Because they do more.  They keep busier than men.  Men, once they lose their primary
employment, start to feel useless.  Whereas, a woman who's taken care of a home and has
children and grandchildren and all of that, doesn't have time to feel there's nothing to do. There's
always too much to do.

Jerd: I've heard somebody claim that women are actually stronger than men. They say mentally,
woman can go longer without food than a man. Because a man would just go crazy without food.

Glen: If you don't have food, your body is being eaten. So, if you're skinny, you'll die sooner.


Jerd: Being skinny is a genetic thing, too. There are people who try to eat a lot and they just can't
gain weight. Do you think these are types of instructions were deliberately put in the genome of
people or is it just something learned?

Glen: Not everybody is given the same things. Everybody basically has a balance that should allow
them to be equal. You've got to think of energy as being in two parts, metabolic and nervous. It's
like the gas tank on a car. Some people have a large gas tank and their foot is heavy on the gas
pedal. So, they will go the same distance on a large gas tank as someone with a small gas tank
and a light foot on the gas pedal. Kind of averages out there. You've got to find out who you are
and adjust your activity to, do you have a lot of nervous energy or do you have a lot of metabolic
energy?

Jerd: I try to listen to my body. Certain foods, if my body is telling me, hey, I don't like this type of
food, I won't eat it.

Glen: You don't eat broccoli like George Bush?

Jerd: Hehe. I eat the broccoli.  Say, Chinese food, if I eat it one day, it doesn't affect me , but if I
keep eating it, I start to feeling sick. My body is telling me, don't eat this anymore.

Glen: Your body should tell you what it needs.  I eat a balanced diet.  I don't believe in this talk
about genetic engineered food is bad for you.  We're genetically engineered , so, what’s the
difference?

Jerd: It's another business. It's people saying, okay, look, they're poisoning our food.  But to put
faith in the label that says USDA or organic, I think is not wise

Glen: The system gives you a reward for doing what it wants you to do.  Then it steals the extra
that it gives you by convincing you that you're better off with organic food.  So, every time you
buy a fruit that's organic, you're giving back the money that they gave you in the first place .
That's how they manage and balance off people.

The best things that you can get are not available anymore . You can't walk around and survive
by picking fruit off the trees or nuts off the ground. It's just not possible. If you choose to eat three
times a day, and you eat a variety of things, your body won't be eating itself and you'll do better.

Jerd: It depends what type of work you do.  If you're doing a lot of hard labor, you've got to eat
food…

Glen: Make up for what you use.




Jerd: In the book 2001: A Space Odyssey , these ape people which I guess are supposed to be
early versions of human beings, in the beginning they ate berries and stuff like that.

I could see the symbol that they used, the monolith was Neanderthal er, a generative force that
guided them, gave them all the…

Glen: We've been socially engineered to accept certain things as food and other things not as
food. But if you lived in the jungle, grubs and bugs and all that , are all protein and that's all part
of your diet. You do it from the day you're born, you don't even think about it. But we look at stuff
and go, yuck.

Jerd: We're so separated, disconnected from ourselves.

Glen: They take water out of the ground, remove the minerals, and then sell it back to you at the
drugstore as vital minerals, vitamins. I mean, it's silly.

Jerd: Yeah, it is. There are so many silly things. I guess as you get older you start to unlearn things,
you just see how ridiculous it is. I'm glad my experience is different. I guess I didn’t for a long time
do what the system wanted me to do.  How does it go? From the time you're born, you're seeing
reality how it is, but then after the first two years you just get brainwashed. Then from there, then
on until you're born again.

Glen: My suspicion is that the normal process of rebirth is one that skips approximately one
phoenix between each life.  So, you're about 600 years because you're supposed to live to be
about 100, and then you skip 500 years. But I suspect that under certain circumstances that time
frame is much shorter, especially in the times we're living now because there isn't another 500,
600 years left.


So, if you have a job to do, you do it in tranches, they call it in French, in slices. You normally have
this break period in between. Right now, there are a lot of people walking on the planet who are
what they call themselves as old souls. But in fact, they are reborn Cro-Magnon or reborn Roma
or reborn Neanderthalers.

Jerd: That's the thing I've been hearing people say, reborn.  How can you be reborn as a
Neanderthaler?

Glen: Well, if your DNA formula is put into an egg, you can be reborn. Mind you, being reborn is
genetic. It doesn't mean how you will be , because the other half is social engineering. If you're
reborn and you live with the Rainier family, you're going to act like Rainier family members act,
not like a Neanderthaler acted years ago.

Although there will be hints throughout your life that your approach to things would be similar
to what Neanderthalers were. That's why you have so many people who want to be control freaks.
It's a trait of the Neanderthaler. It's a person who feels unloved even by themselves, and lash out,
by becoming control…

Jerd: So, we have a world that doesn't like itself.

Glen: They don't like themselves for a number of reasons.  It can be something they did ,and it
can be something other people did to them, and they took that as not being liked.

Jerd: They didn't like themselves and they destroyed themselves. It was like suicide.

Glen: Psychiatrists would tell you that it doesn't matter if it's true or not. It's whether or not you
believe it. A person who was abused as a child, will have the same emotions later on, as a person
who believed they were abused, but were not. In the end, both act the same way. It doesn't have
to have happened. So, if a Neanderthaler felt that Clan Mother wasn't being fair, didn't give them
credit, and Clan Mother had, then that person would become a person who didn't like
themselves.

Jerd: We weren't there, so…

Glen: Speak for yourself.

Jerd: Haha. I don't know Glen, I'm not 40 yet.

Glen: Yeah, you don't have all the evidence yet.

Jerd: What happened with Neanderthalers, how they had a fight with Clan Mother, I don't know
the side of Clan Mother. Was it really unfair treatment?


Glen: If you were a male in the period of Clan Mother, when Clan Mother was a hermaphrodite,
your view of the world would be different than a male who's separate as a gender.  You're just
basically piggybacking and seeing through her eyes.  Then when you divide the genders, you see
through your own eyes. There's a big difference there in how one views themselves.

If you're a male as part of a hermaphrodite, your only real role, although you may be sensing and
viewing and hearing and going through the same process as the female, you can't do anything
about those things. Your only job is when called upon to fertilize an egg.

Jerd: About  that fertilizing the egg, I was looking at this video on the anglerfish.  Wow.  The
anglerfish is this big fish with a light bulb on its head.  But the male is this little tiny thing that
when it finds the female, with the chances being low, they bite into the female. Then their whole
front part of their body just melds into it, and whenever the female calls upon sperm, it provides
it. Before that, it had its own individuality.

Glen: There are many ways, each one of them was a trial about how's the best way to go about
doing this. Different animals were given different approaches just to figure out in the long run
what's the best answer in the long run. Creation had a plan for all of that happening, and creator
kind of jumped the gun and did things out of turn, everything now is screwed up.

Jerd: You think every single animal has had some tampering?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: Even in the animals in the ocean?

Glen: The minute you start tampering with DNA, you're basically dealing with the formula of life.
I suspect that most of the animals we have today were trials that were done before they got
around to doing people. I'm sure the whole process began like a biology class. You basically work
with insects and whatever, and plants.

Jerd: I imagine them underground with a human being on a leash saying, come here, spot, come
here, bingo.

Glen: The lessons learned were done through animals because with the animal, you make it
believe when it's tamed as opposed to trained.  Trained, you say, do this, it does it.  When it's
tamed, it does it without you having to speak anymore. The human animal has been tamed. They
do things believing it's their own free will. It's not, it's a program.

Jerd: Humans, though , they  swear it's all them that's done all this, this progress we've had
throughout history. It's becoming more and more obvious to me that there is a guiding hand. It's
somebody else's intellect and genius that helped with all this.  It wasn't just us.  I try to imagine
what would humanity be like without that helping hand.


Glen: One of the big advantages that you have, Jerd, is you're 25 years old and you've heard things
and you've checked things out that most people never got around to all of their lives.  So that by
the time you're 40, you're going to be better equipped than almost all the people that came
before you to settle on your conclusions about what's the premise behind all of this. You will have
viewed it from many, many more directions than say , a person who lived in a log cabin in the
woods 100 years ago , or someb ody who lives in an apartment building 40 stories tall , is no
different than a person who lived in a cave.

Most people in apartment buildings have very little contact with their neighbors, much less than
people who live in farming communities , and there can be half a mile to the next farm.  It all
depends on how you gathered your information.  Obviously, because you're talking about these
topics now at the age of 25, you're way ahead of the game, but you can't make the mistake of
jumping to conclusions until you have all the facts.

Jerd: I'm still gathering.

Glen: That requires time. That's why time is the fourth dimension. You don't have facts by looking
at three dimensions. You need to have that space that enlarges like rings that are expanding and
things give more space.

Jerd: I remember you told me to look up something in the encyclopedia.  You said, look up time,
fourth dimension. I'm not sure what exactly you said.

Glen: Well, look up fourth dimension and you'll find out fourth
dimension is time. Think of a barrel. That's the best example I can
think of that's made out of slats of wood. So, they take the biggest
slat of wood as the middle and they put an iron ring around it. Each
slat of wood has grooves on both sides and on each side, they fit a
slightly smaller one so that the barrel shape is basically one when
you stand it up, it goes from a small ring to a slightly larger, slightly
larger all the way up to the biggest ring, and then it reverses.

Jerd: That's how Stephen Hawking described the universe. It starts off with a bang and it expands
and it comes to a crunch. This is all happening?

Glen: As time goes on you move to the bigger and bigger ring until you get to that biggest ring
which is the point of transition . Which under normal circumstances will then turn around and
go to a smaller and smaller ring, until it returns to the original point at the opposite end of the
barrel that is representative of the big bang at one end , becomes the big crunch at the other .
But the end product, the singularity to explain that, you have to think of a seed. You start off as
a seed and you grow an oak tree.


Jerd: You know I laugh because our minds are not super advanced or anything, so we need these
simple analogies to try to understand. I have a feeling the Neanderthalers could grasp these things
more directly.

Glen: The more you learn on any single topic, I’m told, the easier it is for you to grasp things within
that topic. When you choose the universe as your topic, there is a lot of stuff.

Jerd: I think you have to have died and been reborn to understand it.

Glen: You can't do it in one lifetime.

Jerd: We’re coming at a time where basically a choice has to be made whether or not this is going
to be shut down…

Glen: If it expands rather than transitions to the crunch, if it just keeps on expanding- Think of the
sun is where it is in our solar system and there are many systems like that around, billions of them.
Each star basically represents another galaxy out there, solar system of its own. If you just forget
that for a minute and say, Mars has no life on it, it's a dead planet because it's so far from the sun
that very little can happen there, because there's no effect on it by the sun.

The earth is at the appropriate place, there is just the right amount of distance between the sun
and the earth , and therefore, life as we know it can happen here.  Venus, on the other hand, is
closer, there's too much activity, too much heat, too much everything , because of its distance
from the sun being closer. So, you can't get our type of life, but you can get a different type of life
in multitude.

I'm sure that on Mars there may be some sign of life, but it is minuscule, whereas on Venus , it's
just overwhelming. So, think of that situation that exists today.  Now, add time, and the thing
expands. If you add time and have the thing expand, we will end up where Venus is, in distance
from the sun. Venus will end up where we are, in distance from the sun.  So, the kind of life that
happens here, won't happen when that happens.  If it expands
forever, everything gets changed in their distance from
everything else. Since nothing can affect anything, it all basically
dies.

It just cannot function because unless you have all of the things
interacting within a solar system, nothing can happen. Now what
you need is to make solar systems that grow, reach their point of
transition, like a tree, like a plant, like anything else, like a human
being, and then begin the process of crunching back down to the
same kind of seed as started in the first place . So, the seed of
human beings is DNA, it's genome. It's what religion calls soul.


You can take what lived and, in our words, died, and what you have is no different than a pumpkin
seed. It's just there doing nothing until it meets the conditions necessary for it to spring forward
as any seed would do when you add earth and water and sunshine and all of the necessary things.
It's a similar process, different but similar nonetheless. It's how you take the DNA from coprolite
and nurture it in a way similar to a seed that it grows in a laboratory environment to the point
where it becomes self-sufficient.

Jerd: So, excrement, it's almost like a seed.

Glen: It is.  It's like a fruit that holds seed, excrement, because the seed needs to feed on
something. A fruit is basically the food of the seed during the period where it's dormant over the
wintertime. The wintertime can be extended if the conditions are right, such as freezing,
cryogenics, all kinds of things, and make the thing extend, like just hibernate, until another
opportunity to grow occurs.

In the old days, in the time of the Egyptians, they basically
thought they had to keep the whole body, so they made
mummies. But as we grew in our knowledge, as they shared
more and more information with us, we've come to
verstand, above overstand, that in fact it's the genome, it's
the DNA, and therefore you don't need to keep the entire
body. You look for the lowest common denominator, and
that's stem cells.

Jerd: I've heard Neanderthal ers, when they buried the ir
dead, they would just throw them all in pits.  They didn't
keep the body  because they probably knew that's all you
needed.

Glen: You don't have to separate things until you need it.
Excrement is basically a pile of stuff that is useless to the
genetic engineer, but it does serve a purpose when fossilized of providing cover for genetic
material to survive within this cover. But when it comes time to regenerate life, you have to go
through a process of separating what is the DNA from what is excrement, and using only the DNA
that has been protected through time because of its ability to survive within the excrement .
Then if you go through the process of regenerating it as life, then the process begins again like a
seed growing. Every stem cell has within it all of the instructions for the entire piece.

Jerd: How long do you think that was known?





Glen: Well, I suspect that in 80,000 BC, the Neanderthal ers knew. But just because they knew
doesn't mean they told the Egyptians. They put people... they stopped history at the Ice Age. It
was basically back to grade one or kindergarten. So that 16,000 years later, they began to hand
out bits and pieces of information, and only did it as long as they were in charge. If something
started to go off on a tangent, they cut them off from the information.

Jerd: Yeah, I can see that they did that. I'm starting to see that pattern in history. For example, the
Spartans, they'd have rebellions, and all of a sudden, an earthquake came out of nowhere.

Glen: If you had armor and you had food, you could be a soldier.  But if somebody withheld the
armor and the food, you were just a peasant that had to go find something to eat. So, they found
what the common denominator was, and it's called money. We call it money. So, they didn't have
to deal with each thing individually when they had the common denominator that allows you
to buy things, the things you need for any particular project. In any event it's almost time for me
to go do my thing now.

Jerd: Okay.

Glen: I'll talk to you again sometime.

Jerd: Yeah. I'm getting closer, man.

Glen: Are you doing anything on your paperwork?

Jerd: Yeah, that's what I was doing today. Every time I have free time, I...

Glen: You advance the cause.

Jerd: Actually, my passport is going to expire in August.

Glen: You may as well apply for that soon.

Jerd: It's always something. When I have all this stuff, then it's the money. I don't know how much
money.

Glen: Transportation.

Jerd: Yeah, food and stuff like that. I'm thinking in my head how much I'll need to survive.

Glen: You never know. You might cross the bridge and then the NOVA will wipe out where you
came from and you won't have to deal with anything.

Jerd: I thought about that.


Glen: Talk to you again.

Jerd: Alright, Glen.

Glen: Bye.