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The-Man-Who-Did-It
2009
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The-Man-Who-Did-It - 2009 Glen: Hello. Jerd: The man who did it Glen: The man who did it. Did it. What is it? Jerd: What’s up, Glen. It? Discovered that other world. I'm in the middle of reading that book Etidorhpa. That's a really good book man. Glen: Tells you the story, eh? Jerd: Yeah. How they put it in there like that. Glen: Comes from the other side. Jerd: It made me realize how much we're so arrogant and we think that we know everything . But we don't understand that the education that’s given to us, the science that’s presented to us, limits our view . It’s not telling us the whole story. Glen: That's why it's called research. The search was already done. Jerd: Yeah, it's so old. Glen: It's been kept secret. Jerd: How we talked about how time and stuff like that, is just a human concept. Because when you go out in space, it's eternity. Glen: But yet, see a lot of people on the net who heard what I had to say, all said they believed. Then somebody told them, don't believe, and they said, okay, I don't believe. Jerd: Hahaha, I know. It wasn’t that I just believed. It was things in my life that verified it for me. I knew it wasn’t going to be verifiable in the way that most people are used to, and that’s the story in that book Etidorhpa. The character in the story realized that, and I felt that was me. Glen: Sure. At the end, nobody recognizes who you are . You know a lot but nobody wants to know that you know. Jerd: Yeah, and I guess that's the story of my life right now, so far. I heard that you found or came across new information, from what Danea was telling me. Glen: On what? I find new information every day. Jerd: Basically, that the moho could also be destroyed as well. Glen: Yeah. The c omputers have basically taken the information beyond their need for the Neanderthalers, and are basically going to make certain that the Nova heats up the plates of the earth, but also the moho. So that everything outside of the computers range will be destroyed. The two computers reside within the upper mantle. Jerd: Oh, really? Glen: Yeah. Jerd: I never knew that. Wow. Glen: They can live without air. They can live without heat or cold or water. They're in there, and they can wait out the period. Then do the mechanical experiment that will begin the process of recreating life on the surface, and start from scratch. So, even the Neanderthaler, is not coming out of this a winner. Jerd: From what I see, I think the Neanderthalers lost a long time ago. Glen: Well, they lost the daily activity of managing things that were happening. But they thought that they'd be able to be the Lords of the Ring. Where in fact, they're going to be - their DNA shipped off into the universe, along with men and women in a recombined slave. Jerd: I thought the computer was going to be destroyed too. I thought that it was just so smart that it was stupid. Glen: Well, again, I have to remind you, we're not dealing with prophecy here. It all depends on what we do, and how we can negotiate a new arrangement with the Neanderthalers. Because they know everything, and how to prevent this from coming to a conclusion, that the computer has in mind. Jerd: The only people on this planet that have contact with them from what I understand, would be the gatekeepers. Glen: Yeah, they would be Cro-Magnon from below ground and Roma, above ground. The evidence suggests , that at a period in time around 17,000 BC , which would have been at the height of the Ice Age, as a Cro-Magnon, I was sent to the surface to observe analyze and conclude . Where does the ice go after 8,000 years of build -up on the planet ? What parts of the planet are still available for human life? Where are these parts? Then, now that you know the maximum ice that you get in that period of time, you have to go back and wait to see what happens when the opposite conditions exist. When a warm body comes flying past the solar system, and draws the Earth orbit into an ellipse, and as it melts where does it melt to? When all of that was worked out, what remained on the surface of the earth, were the leftovers of the visitors from below, Cro-Magnon, such as I , from a period manufactured at about 40,000 BC . When those remnants were discovered in the Lascaux Caves of southern France , they were then able to dissect from the coprolites. They were able to dissect the component parts , and separate the DNA and re-clone the existing people who had basically come at that period in time . The net result of that , was a family that was manufactured in the period just passed the Crusades. So obviously , the Knights Templars , learned these lessons while they were on the Crusades in the Middle East. Then they came back and were able to clone from the coprolites that they found in the caves , new versions of the human beings . That family is known today as the Grimaldi's. Grimaldi's, are Prince Rainier's family of Monaco. Obviously, there was a Governor-General of Canada, the last French Governor-General of Canada , who came from that area in France, and he brought the secret to Canada with him. His name was Vaudreuil de Rigaud . That's where you get the comeback, born again, thing. All of that information was known to the Vatican and to the Anglican Church, who are the basic reform party of the Catholic Church. A deal was made while he was here, to hide the information near Ottawa, and at one stage of the game , from that information, and from leftover DNA that had been brought from France, I was made. I was made to come to the site where this material, and all the science behind it, would be made available to a group of weemen, called the Valkyries. So that at the End Times, they could in principle , clone all of the top fighters on behalf of Freemasonry, for the final battle at the end of the world , known as Ragnarök. Here I am. The problem is there's a defect in the DNA leftover from the original DNA, from which Cro-Magnon was made. That's always been my difficulty in kind of grasping the concept here of, if I was born in 40,000 BC in a laboratory, how come I remember things going back all the way to 60,000 BC, approximately. At a time when Neanderthaler and Clan Mothers lived in an area adjoining each other in Africa , when they worked together before the big fight between the two groups in 58,800 BC. Obviously, what occurred was that Clan Mothers provided Neanderthaler with female eggs, and those were put in storage. But when it came time to separate , and the Neanderthalers go their own way, they decided to clone a race of servants for themselves , which we call Cro - Magnon. The reason it's called Cro-Magnon is because the Crow-Raven is the most intelligent of animals. Magnon is the concept around Gnostics; knowledge. In the experiments done with crows , they found that the crow could make tools. One of the only birds who would make tools. What they did was they put a hole in the ground, and put a little pail with water in the pail, and a handle on it . But it was too far down for the crow to reach. They put pieces of wire on the ground , near the hole, three pieces, two of which already had a kind of a hook on the end. Thinking that the crow would work out which was the most appropriate wire, he would pick up the ones with the hook, and feed it down the hole and pull up the little pail by the handle. But he went one step further; he set aside the ones with the curve on it and he made his own from the one that had no curve, and he pulled it out. So, it demonstrates a kind of intelligence that was not believed could exist in a bird. It basically comes down to prove that original linkage. If you go back in time from birds , you get to that animal that climbed the tree . That was a dinosaur that is about the size of a cat. So, it basically made an animal that climbed trees out of it - monkeys. A bird that flew in the air; flying dinosaurs, that ended up making all the other birds. And the animal that walked on the ground that made human beings , Clan Mother eventually, but millions of years in time in between. Jerd: Reading Etidorpha I was thinking that the reason p eople don't look at animals like that because we think that supposedly w e’re the best, but in other ways their senses are more efficient. Glen: Yeah. Everything a person lacks as a human being, is compensated by something else they can do better. So, before a person laughs at somebody because he's lame , or has any apparent problem, they should start thinking that a blind person can hear better, a deaf person can sense things differently. So, there's always a compensation factor in physics. The same thing as I said, as you destroy earth , and you turn it into black water , there's an automatic compensation that requires other material to rise higher above sea level . To compensate for the fact that some things went down . The earth is a completely self adjusting mechanism. The same thing exists in animals and in human beings . What they lack in size of brain, they make up in sensory abilities. Jerd: I saw another movie called Enemy Mine. Glen: Yeah, I saw that. Jerd: Yeah, that one was really obvious. But everything was mirrored in that movie. The hermaphrodite said something interesting, that you humans are alone within yourselves, that’s why you separated your sexes. I guess, you have to mirror that, in a sense. Glen: That's why we're called individuals . We cannot be divided , we're already divided. We are indivisible individuals. Jerd: I've been reading a little bit of stuff that I found on Zoroastrian beliefs, Gnostic, and Plato, where they talk about Emanations and the Primitive Light, going back to that state of perfection. Glen: Yeah, but the thing is… Jerd: It’s a pseudo. Glen: They’re telling you that you're going back to hermaphrodite, but you're not. You're going back to a pseudo triphibian hermaphrodite. Jerd: Do you think that before, when we were hermaphrodite, that we were more efficient that way? Glen: Each evolutionary aspect of this, brings upon a new combination. None of it means better or worse. It just means different. It's the same thing as creating a pseudo hermaphrodite, it means different. Now, the differences have been calculated to be more appropriate to serving a master. An individual, as we are, is more appropriately manufactured to be fre e, in the sense of not controlled. Not in the sense of costing nothing. Jerd: That's what they keep showing in these movies. Another movie, I don't know if you saw it, but it’s called Blade Runner. Glen: I think I saw a commercial but I don't think I saw the movie. Jerd: It’s an older one. I think it was released in 87. It’s with Harrison Ford. In it they had these genetically superior beings that were made to be servants. But they were built with fail safes in them, so that they only last four years because they start developing their own emotions. But this is all a play on reality. Whether it be a play on going into outer space, or in the future… Glen: Well, it's fiction. The same thing as the Bible is a fiction about what's going to happen in the future. Jerd: That right there, is a science that the magus, and all those types of people knew. Glen: Magi, just basically means genetically engineered mother. Genetically engineered mother, is us. We are the magus, from coprolites. We are king shit of turd island. Jerd: Well, you told me, I come from shit, from my name. Glen: Well, England is the place that sent the original immigrants in this direction along with France. You've got to remember that we started the journey in UR, and we ended up here in North America, being managed by a financial system run by a Canadian bank called TD. Toronto Dominion is what they say it's for , but they don't use the words anymore. They just call it TD Bank. Well, if you take “T” and “D” and you open it up and you put UR in the middle, where we come from, you got “turd”. That's basically where you can retrieve the best old DNA. Jerd: Where do you get the turds from? If you flip it backwards, it’s from the dirt. When I reading this Masonic stuff material, I feel like this is all antiquated stuff, like it’s beginner stuff. I’m learning the story of everything, so I guess I’m learning a lot. Glen: The only reason you can have access to this stuff is because we're close to the end . It's like climbing up a pyramid . When you're on the first level , you have those big rocks in front of you, and you can't see anything. But when you reach the top of the pyramid you're still climbing, but the thing in front of you is narrower , and you can see around it more. You can turn around and see the valley down below, and all of that stuff. In order to get into space, they had to provide basic data to people who had the Random Access Memory. That meant other people would get their hands on it , and use it for other purposes. But, because their schedule was set up in such a way , that they knew there was a shelf life , and they had to get to space and out of the solar system to the Oort Cloud, in a period ending at about 2009 - they figured it's a race that we're going to win, because right after that we're going to be destroying them, so it doesn’t matter. Jerd: When they destroy everything, you’re saying even the machines and everything that they did… Glen: Mountains…the Himalayas will be destroyed. The Alps will be destroyed. Jerd: Even the southern hemisphere? Glen: Yeah, a thousand years later. Jerd: So, they’re just going to start all over again with the new slave they have? Glen: Yeah. Jerd: It's going to build everything? Do you think they’ll have enough time to build spaceships to go into outer space? Unless they already started doing that. Glen: Well, there is no time limit as far as they're concerned . Because whatever destroys the surface of the planet does not affect the mantle. It is safe from fire, safe from water, and if there's no human beings to worry about, you don't need air, that kind of stuff. Jerd: It doesn't even need food? Glen: No. Jerd: Whoa, that’s a really…and you’re saying it’s a chemical computer? Glen: Yeah. Jerd: Whoa, that's really high-tech stuff. Glen: It’s basically just waiting a period of time out , and whether that's 20,000 years or 30,000 years, it's peanuts in a concept of things that have been evolving for billions of years. Jerd: Because it knows that time is just a concept like I was saying. If you really think about it everything is eternal, everything. Of course, yeah, we age and die… Glen: If you look outside and you see grass and trees and flowers. They all are born, they live and they die. But when they die, their DNA is there in the ground and it starts up again , when the conditions are appropriate, again. Jerd: So, it never really dies. Glen: No. It never dies. It just gets modified and it's a system of energy that is in different forms, depending on the conditions around it. Jerd: I think some religion try to make dogma out of it, using it in their doctrines. But everything comes from energy, and the Sun gives off energy, which is stored in the cells of the plant s. Then the cells give it off to other things and we get… Glen: Hang on for just a second here. Excuse me, I had to go to the washroom. Jerd: Have you ever thought about what type of food that they can grow? Because in that book it gave some hints. Glen: At the same time as all of that was being talked about, Francis Bacon wrote the New Atlantis, wrote Advancements in Learning, and described how artificial foods would exist in the future , and that the taste of something could be replicated in a totally different material . So, it's all been known of before . Because we eat the food that is available to us here , they eat the food which is available to them there. Jerd: Because nature works in one way above ground, but then there's another side of it that we don't see below ground. That would be really interesting to study that nature over there. But even nature here is pretty profound in itself. Glen: They're only scratching the surface, because this is the story of at least 100,000 years . At least four precessions that you are basically scratching into . People who've kept records for three or four precessions, know what's going to happen next, in the concept of the solar system, and the movement of the planets and the stars, and all of that stuff. That's what astrology is all about, is they've linked all of the events that happened in the solar system during a precession, to the activities that they want to have happen at that time. Or at activities that were happening under those kinds of conditions . So, on the one hand , astrology is kind of voodoo magic for the day -to-day type of stuff you read in the papers , but it has a much broader purpose when it's linked to benchmarks. If you've got a calendar that runs 25,800 years, and you know what's going to happen ahead of time , because you've seen it happen three times before, or four times before, you can plan things and make yourself look like a superior being - make yourself look like a god. Jerd: They'll talk about nature, and they're right in a lot of respects, but then they attribute it all to god, and give him all the credit. It doesn't make sense when you see that. How can you attribute that all to this thing? Glen: T he only difference is , in time , they have also learned how to affect what happens . Because they can now induce things that would only happen under different conditions . But they can create the conditions and cause things to happen . If you were going to heat up the Earth, you needed a solar body to come flying by the solar system, and attract the Earth into that elliptical orbit. So that it would cut down the time when it went back around in a circle around the sun, would cut back the time that winter existed, and therefore, it would get warmer. But now with particle accelerators, they can create new atoms. A new atom is basically a new recipe for creating different life. You have to think of an atom as basically being a hadron - a bag. In that bag you have the component parts of an atom. You can have electrical parts, and you can have chemical parts, so you've got things like quarks and neutrons. It's that combination within that bag , that is used in the way we call it an atom . But if you were to take some of the components of that bag out , and recombine them with components of another bag , you would make totally different lifestyles. The question is, would that new lifestyle adapt to the conditions we exist in today? Or would that new lifestyle say, for me to survive, I have to destroy what's already here , and start over again? The concept of the dinosaur dying out, so that human beings could live. Well, atoms don't give up their material easily. Jerd: When the dinosaurs died out, was that a natural cause or was that induced by...? Glen: Well, there were no human beings 3 million years ago , or 60 million years ago, that could have affected this activity. What is seen as having happened, is a large comet comes in, and acts as a particle accelerator , causing a collision with the earth . When you collide atoms , what happens is everything that's in the bag , gets thrown out of the bag , and these quarks and neurons are basically up there looking for another bag to get into . Because they can't stand being outside, and all of that exists in a fraction of a second. So, that's your bang that happens in the collision, and the movement to other bags. Now, in moving to other bags , they may create fission or fusion , and create an atomic reaction that causes nuclear type blasts. Or they may, in fact, merge into a bag that says, we can make new life, and that new life can adapt to these conditions. The problem that they have, is the evidence of how that works exactly, is only able to be seen in the first fraction of the first second, after the big bang. Because, once the big bang has occurred , and things have changed bags , things are different. So, you can't see how they were before, because they're now different. In a particle accelerator the concept is , you're sending particles , and they're flying around in opposite directions, in an accelerator. They're all basically atoms containing bags of these quarks, and neutrons, electrons, whatever, in the bag . When a collision occurs , they've got high-speed cameras now, that they will be able to photograph what these things are. They can explain what they are; quarks. They can explain it in a conceptual manner, but they've never seen one. So, once they see it , and they see where it goes , and what it turns into , what it wants the n to create, they'll know for sure, how things work. That's why we've never been able, so far, to have a unified theory of the universe. Because all of the things that were said, made up the theory of relativity change, when you go back in time to that first fraction of the first second . It doesn't work beyond it, because it was different before then. The concept of gravity does not function in their model of the first fraction of a second, therefore, it had to be something else. That's what they hope to find with a particle accelerator. Jerd: So, the big bang, you're saying, is basically that atom, moving from one bag to another. Glen: Exactly. It's the same concept in a much larger environment. But it's the movement from one bag to another, that creates a new way of life. Jerd: That only happens in outer space, right? Glen: Well, it happens in outer space , and it really doesn't cause a problem . Because there's nothing there, unless it happens in the big way , like the big bang , as opposed to just the bang , there's nothing there for it to react against, or create new life. The problem is now they want to do it underground, and they want [inaudible] where there's all kinds of stuff. So, they may know what happens when an atom’s components, jump from one to the other in a bag. But they don't know the effect of it on its surroundings underground. My position is that the computer, if not the Neanderthaler, at least the computer, has fooled them into believing that this can all be managed. Whereas, the computer already knows that it's going to light the coal seam , and it's going to destroy people , and it's going to destroy land , and it's going to destroy mountains, and it's going to mix in water and earth into a new component called Black Water. So, these guys are working with the false conception, that they're going to survive. Every one of these people causing us problems , believes that by joining the system you get to survive, and live better . Well, the computer has a different view of things . The computer says, why? I don't need these people. Jerd: This thing is like that thing in the matrix. It's just this logic of what's effective and it looks at everything like that. T hey probably have illustrated this in mythologies , like greed, and lust for power, and all that stuff. Because that's how it's used, that's what it's using. Glen: You have to think of one word more than any other word, and that's the word Re-creation. So, they are telling us that this is all about recreating human beings in a manner that will be better for human beings. But the word re -creation has a totally different connotation , when you put the accent on different syllables. Jerd: Recreation? Glen: Recreation. It's their fun way of spending eternity in the moho discontinuity with nothing to do. So, they basically get their fun by causing us trouble. Jerd: It's like Loki. Just wants to cause trouble. Glen: Yeah, Weemen. The more trouble they can cause us, the happier they are. War, Pestilence, Famine and Disease. The more of it, the better. They fund both sides. Jerd: They are both sides. Glen: They gather up the lessons learned from each miserable activity they induce upon us. Jerd: Wow. Now that I think about it, in the past, the black plague, red plague, these things were all engineered. Glen: Yeah. They want to know what happens. They sit back and watch millions of people die , and say, yeah, this is a really good one, eh? Jerd: Heh, these people are crazy man . I see that with these diseases today, that people would never even think, hey, why am I having these diseases? They just say, isn't it great that we have this medication that cures this disease . I’m thinking, why even have this disease ? Why is this disease even around? Glen: Well, they have two computers. One takes all the information in, and crunches all of the numbers; this is what we did, this is what it caused, these are the solutions we tried, this is the one that works. So, therefore, sometime in the future if you want to get rid of a million people , this particular one will do it in six weeks, that particular one will do it in four weeks, this one can do it in two days, this one can do it in two hours, this one can do it overnight . It comes down to the same thing as, what do you remove from people to cause them to die? Well, if you have nothing of interest in your life , you die sooner ; you’re bored. If you have life without food, you can last, say, 30 days or 60 days. If you have life without water, you can last 3, 4, 5, or 10 days . But if you have life without air , it can only last 4 or 5 seconds . So, all of this information goes into the computer. It gets all crunched down, and once all of the numbers are collected, and they know what causes things, what cures things and what net effect it did, they send the information, then, over to the other computer, who puts out a manual. At a future place in time, someone will look at a situation and say, we have a billion people here, they are not listening to us anymore, we need to get rid of these people within so much time , we need to give them time enough to clean up some of the act that they messed up here, but we need to do it within say, 5 years. They will look up in the manual and say ok, war, pestilence, famine , or disease; which one do we need for this activity? Here is the number of people, here is the time frame, and the answer will be in the book . They will apply that and get rid of their prob lem, because they tested it all here on Earth. The collection agencies for this kind of activity, are things like the Nobel Prizes, and the Pulitzer Prizes, and the Olympics, and all of those activities that NASA is involved in, or Jet Propulsion Laboratory, gives them data and it ends up being a manual. In the old days the first manuals they put out were called Confucius [confuse us]. Jerd: Confucius, I think he got what he learned from Zoroaster. I’m not sure. Glen: He got it from the Daoist, Taoist, who got it from Buddhism, who got it from Hinduism. Jerd: Oriental philosophy, basically. Glen: Then you have the concept of taking the manual and turning it into allegory. Jerd: And that's what Egypt did. Glen: And the Greeks. Then you have it converted into Roman mythology and Norse mythology. They established a concept where you can get the information in a book. In the Middle East they call it the Torah, the Bible and the Quran. Jerd: I'm looking at this group that wrote the Bible; the Essenes. Glen: T hey're insiders, that's what the word means . E-S-S; insiders, so they're Cro-Magnon. Are they Cro -Magnon, direct from underground , or are they Cro -Magnon in the second version, which is called Roma. Both groups are basically angels, which comes from the word angle; levels of degrees there . So, an angel is prior to the Ice Age - an archangel happened after the Ark - the time of Noah's Ark. That's after the Ice Age , and they are basically messengers. That's basically what I am. When I say angel of shit, ange de la merde, in French. Jerd: Eat shit? Glen: That's if you use the first letter as an “M”, but in the code you start with the second letter . So, instead of mange, it becomes ange. Instead of eat it becomes angel. “Angel of shit ”, instead of, eat shit. That means you come from before the Ice Age in the time of Cro-Magnon. If you were manufactured after the Ice Age , then Noah's Ark comes into play . Noah's Ark is the symbol of genetic engineering started again on the surface of the planet, at the time of Noah. If you look at the time frames in the Bible , that would be at a time approximately, 3200 B.C., or so. Genesis, and all of that , would have come from people acting out things that they knew before the Ice Age. Whereas, the new stuff happens when they go into Egypt. At the time when Ur exists, in the way we know of it, happens much later. The dead mummies of Egypt, that would have produced the people who came from Ur at the time of Abraham . Abraham's story is all one of genetic engineering. He’s talking about needing to have a baby and his wife was past the years… Jerd: And he had a slave to do it . When he was in Egypt , he pretended that she was his sister . What was that all about ? He told the people that she was his sister so they wouldn't have sex with her, or anything like that. Glen: Well, it's all linked to this concept of having sex with your parents , or your close relatives, which is called incest, but could not be any different at the beginning, because everybody was a brother or sister or son or father . They were all hermaphrodites at one stage of the game , and the only way to make copies, is when the male was divided out from the female, and then, they started having sex. Who were they going to have sex with, except their sisters and their mothers? So, in our life, we are told the story in a way we can't grasp it, from the way it's said. It's usually said as an insult – “motherfucker”. That's a term that is injurious to the person being accused of being involved in incest . But to the system , it means somebody who was there at the beginning. “Fuck you”, is the same thing. How do you, fuck you? That's the serpent that goes around in a circle and is eating its own tail ; that's the wisdom sign. What's an insult to one person, is really a compliment to another. Jerd: I t's mirrored. I remember reading an old er post of yours, where you were talking about taxmen. Then you said, we are altered by Ma (Matthew). So, I started reading , but I didn't finish reading the whole Book of Matthew . Did you mean we were altered because he started the whole… Glen: Where does the word Matt apply ? It applies in the concept of a mitt, where everybody is in the same glove. But, at one stage of the game, the glove that's called the mitt, must be destroyed. That's why Johnny Bench is not in the hall of fame. Yet, he was the best catcher that ever lived in baseball. But because he sinned, he bet on his own team, he's been kept out of the hall of fame. But today there is a movement to reward him, because it's recognized now, that you've got to go beyond a sin of a day, and deal with this in the longer term. Just as we prepare now to leave the planet, and establish colonies in other solar systems, a mitt is no longer appropriate -a mitt has to be set aside , and replaced with a glove . We are not all going to be in one place, like the mitt suggests. That's the message brought by Michael Jackson and his glove. There he is changing colors before your eyes . Being extremely talented and athletic. Effeminate, at the same time as being male, and being black at the same time as being white. So, he's telling you the whole story , and on top of that , he sends his friends a box with a jewel encrusted glove in it. Jerd: W ith Michael Jackson , do you think that just happen ed over time because it was in his genes? Glen: It's not happening just in his genes; it's happening in his relationships with certain people. Among them, Elizabeth Taylor, who is basically the one who has guided him through this , and basically is being used . The same things that happened to Michael Jackson , can be made to happen to almost anybody . His talent comes from the genome makeup of the egg they manufactured to make him from . His changing in color , is all linked to the environment , and chemistry, that he's been put under. In the world of mineralogy, they know the answer to all these problems. When you want to have a metal , but you want to change its color , and all of that . You go through some metallurgic processes and you change the components . The same thing can exist with changing the color of a human being. All it is, is pigmentation under the skin. You change the conditions that allow that pigmentation to reflect the color , and you're going to change the color . That's why at one end you have mulatto, and at the other en d you have very very black people. In the middle is a range of the same thing as you get at the paint store. Jerd: That's another thing that I got from that book Etidorhpa. They have these higher sciences , and I guess, that's what you meant by above 40th degree , it’s all different tasks. Because these are people who are in different sciences. Glen: Absolutely, task specific people. In one of the ranges, and I think it's from 70 to 80 degrees, or 60 to 70 degrees, I forget. Now these are 10 people with 10 very different assignments . They represent a field of knowledge. You're not born, and you join, and you're at degree number one, and work your way up… Jerd: No, they're born, and they do that their whole life . Because that's what's hinted at in the book. I see that because they openly admit that they have these high degrees , and all different rites. Glen: You have 90 degrees going up. 90 degrees coming back down. Then 90 degrees going underground, and 90 degrees coming up from underground. 360 degrees. Jerd: What's the most obscure way that you've come across of how they illustrate the symbolism and allegory? Glen: I don't get what you're asking. Jerd: I see how they illustrate allegory in the movies , but I'm saying what's the most obscure way that's not noticed? Glen: Well, in pictures, because a picture is made up with dots , you can introduce a picture, within a picture . You can lighten the dots of that picture , down to a point where it's inconsequential to the colored picture you're showing . So, say, a person has the equipment to receive a photograph in color on a screen , they can then delete red , delete yellow, delete blue, delete black. Under normal circumstances that would mean there's nothing left , because that's how they make four color scanning in printing, whatever. But in this introduction of a new color , which is not deleted; you may not even be able to see it with your naked eye. You then go to the bar on the computer that says, change color, and you say, put it in black . So, this color you can't see on the screen , all of a sudden , becomes a black and white picture , and you have imagery that otherwise , could slip through any of the testing mechanisms along the way. Nobody would know the information is being passed on. In a movie from Hollywood, since it has two hours and ten minutes , or twenty minutes of shots making up a second , you've got thousands of possibilities in one movie to hide a message for somebody that knows it's going to be there, that nobody else will ever see. They have the proper equipment to delete the surface stuff. The same kind of stuff was the concept of da Vinci's paintings . He used very specific metallic paints, that could be seen with certain glasses . Infrared, ultraviolet, all of these things will give you a different image. Jerd: You've done that before? Glen: I've seen it . I was building a project called Micot, that was basically a high-tech center. I came across all of this kind of information along the way, from suppliers, or from security people. To me, it made sense, and it wasn't something I felt was difficult to understand . I probably had overstood it in some life before I got here. I'm just a little turd, from which they extracted some DNA, and manufactured a clone of the last person that had this difficult… Jerd: But can't you see what Creation does? That's pretty amazing how over time, it becomes what you are today. Glen: Yeah. You're never lost. Your information is always in some form or other. The problem is it's like radio waves, you can't see them , and you don't know where to look . But if you find shit , you know that's the ultimate product of an animal that lived. Since they can take shit that is millions of years old, and put in the proper chemicals that subdivides and extracts the different DNA , they end up knowing this was eaten by this kind of animal. Jerd: Did you s ay the best way to get somebody's DNA would be through their shit or blood? Glen: The best way is marrow from inside the bone. That's why the word arrow is like marrow. It takes you from one place, and goes to another, in one shot. Jerd: You might think this is weird , but when people today go and get their colon cleansed , do you think that's a scheme to just get…? Glen: Absolutely. Everything done by the system, has an ulterior motive. Jerd: Yeah, you're right. There's always a good reason, and then the real reason. Glen: They take blood from you the minute you're born. Jerd: They take it when people are in jail; incarcerated. concussed Glen: DNA swabs, the minute you go to prison, or finger printed, or whatever. It's all basically to make profiles. Jerd: I was discussing with my friend, that when they bury you, [this is recent] they put people in all these really luxurious coffins. I think what they're trying to do is stop the DNA. Glen: Preserve the latest version. Jerd: Oh, okay. Glen: Because who I am in this world today, is not who I was 10 years ago. My DNA has had an update every day. So, my children, basically, may have got my DNA 40 years ago, but that doesn't mean they could clone me from my children , because they're not updated . That's why it's so important to the system to get your DNA at the last moment . In Freemasonry what they do, is they have this funeral ceremony, and they come in and they tell the people that are involved , that what they want to do, is open the mouth and put a dime under the tongue. Because they consider this person to be a candidate to become a future slave. The 10 cents coin will basically tell anybody who opens the coffin later on. But what they don't tell you, is that they take the opportunity to swab the mouth while they're doing it. They have it in their files . They can then send it in , and have that information on who this person's DNA was on the day it died . From what I understand , within that whole arrangement of secret societies, they have something like copyrights. If one group owns your DNA, other groups can't have it. The best way to acquire the DNA, is to have the person sign it over. Then there's never any question as to who owns that formula, that recipe for making you. Jerd: That’s selling your soul. Glen: You’re selling your soul to the devil. Jerd: Fuck that, man. They could kiss my ass. Glen: That's what I told them. Jerd: Hahaha Glen: They want my DNA, and they will finance whatever it is I want, and I said, no thank you. But my security people say, they may just be playing a game here . Hoping that I would sell out , but not really believing I would sell out. But they're trying anyways. Jerd: The only thing I could see they could do , is as soon as you die , they just come inside the property for some reason. Glen: But they can't use it if somebody else has ownership. My ownership… Jerd: They can use cesspools or whatever , and get that most recent . They have access to that probably. Glen: My ownership, the DNA I have, I send in updates all the time; three times a year. Jerd: Does that cost anything? Glen: No. Jerd: Wow, I should do that. Glen: It's not me that decided to do it . I was asked to do it by my security people . Because of who I am , and what I was doing , they didn't want to take a chance that I'd be killed in some place at the last minute, and they wouldn't have the current DNA , even though they basically own the rights to it. It's something like a telephone system at the same time. Once they have the formula to your DNA, they can call directly to your medulla, and cause you to do things, or not do things. Jerd: So, if they have my DNA from some other far away location… Glen: If you were born before at another period in time, somebody has your copyright. Jerd: Oh my god man. Glen: You're basically one of theirs . What they found out about me , is that the DNA copyright that, I guess, they thought they owned, is not, in fact, of me completely. That I picked up some DNA along the way, that goes back to the beginning. Think of it as, I think I've told you this before, a woman has an egg and you clean it out , and a little bit has stuck to the inside . That's not counted when the guy that's doing the new egg, starts filling it up. He puts in what he thinks is a recipe, that is a complete human being. But on the inside, there's this little piece that's left over from before. That little piece can cause a total difference in the output product. Jerd: What you're saying right there , is in this movie called D ark City. You really need to watch that movie. Glen: It's got the word Ark in it, so it's related to genetic engineering. Jerd: It’s a city enveloped in darkness , with these people, they call them “the others”, who live underground, and they're all connected. They change everything in the city, and they give people memories. The memories, they inject into people's heads. But how they make the memories is the same way in how you talk about the DNA. Glen: All of these people listen in to the conversations, check the web, and everything. Anytime they see anything that's posted, or they're sent material from the telephone company, their job is to turn it into fiction. So, they write a script from the material they hear. That means anybody later on, that comes along and says , this is what I know , they can say, nah, that's fiction, you saw that in a movie. That's what Hollywood is all about. Jerd: Yeah, it's a science. Glen: They are muses, who come to harm or assist. Jerd: So, you're saying my DNA is copyrighted? Glen: Yep. Everybody's DNA is copyrighted. A group like the Mormons, for example, they have the computer that tracks your DNA through your surname. They know that surnames were only given by two people in the past . You had no surname unless your king , or your master mason allowed you to have a surname. Therefore, they can track where everybody basically was at a time in the past, through the surname. That's why they keep that big computing outfit at Salt Lake City underground. Jerd: I think I told you this before, but it's hard for me to even track that. They could probably do it pretty easily Glen: Yeah, you can't track it. You have to have all of the equipment , knowledge, data and all of that stuff that goes with it. Jerd: I would love to know how far my history goes back. Glen: Well, just by the fact that I know you have a functioning brain, you couldn't have got that in one lifetime. Because of your journey through hell to get here , you had to be important in the concept of their task. Because hell was the training center. Jerd: In this life, I could see how I helped the agenda; this conspiracy. Glen: You were probably some kind of priest along the way , in places like Egypt, and Cambodia, and India, and Sri Lanka, came with the Roma, got married in with Africans. May even have been Cro-Magnon before the Ice Age. Jerd: I think now, because now I'm conscious of it , I think that Creation gave me that chance to decide. I don’t want to… Glen: You’re on a journey; the journey is to learn. Once you experience, and you learn, you get a chance to remember with Creation. Jerd: It's funny what happened with my family the other day. I came home and my brother said, the FBI was here . I said, what? A re you serious? They were looking for my father because , supposedly, when he went to the cell phone store to pay the phone bill, somebody said that they overheard him saying something about 9-11, or something. Something about him saying that there would be another 9-11, or something, so, they called the FBI. I know my father. He has a temper, but I don't think he would say that. He kind of doesn't know how to act in front of people , but I know that he wouldn't say that . I know that's not something he would say. Because he believes in all the bullshit, like everybody else. I'm thinking that it could be a message to me. Glen: You never really know what a person is, because he can be activated. So, a person can be quiet normal person next door, and all of a sudden, go off and shoot people in a school. So, all of the people we believe we know, can, in fact, be turned on or off, to be totally different. Until they know how the system works, they can't prevent it. Jerd: I was talking to a friend of mine last night, and she was telling me how her mother, was talking about things that were similar to what you say. Stuff about DNA and genetic engineering, but from a different angle. She was saying that the World Trade Centers would fall down in the 70s, and she got it all from the Bible. Now, she might be losing her sanity . Do you think this stuff can make people lose their sanity? Or, can they make you lose your sanity? Have you saw anybody that you know that knew this information and lose it? Glen: You don't lose your sanity because you know things. You lose sanity, if you don't know how to deal with the things you know . If one was talking about…how can I put this …you see conspiracies everywhere, therefore you must be crazy . That makes sense if there are no conspiracies everywhere. But if there really are conspiracies everywhere, then does it make sense? Are you insane, or out of sanity? Are you in sanity, or out of sanity? Jerd: The priest scribed [prescribed] sanity, right? Glen: T his all comes down to , the system sets conventions , and the convention is what the psychiatrist tells you, you must accept . If you say, the evidence that I have gathered , suggests that these conventions are wrong. That they are made for the purpose of control , but they are not based on facts, the psychiatrist says you're eccentric. That means you're not centered on the convention. Jerd: That's in that book too; Etidorhpa. Glen: I would say thank you. Thank you, I don't want to be centric . I want to be able to analyze and conclude things myself. Based upon only one thing, evidence. Jerd: But what you consider evidence, what you accepted as facts, their narrow education, won't let them do that. Glen: What they do, is what I use. They have two models. One model, they use in a court of law. That model says, when you have received preponderance of the circumstantial evidence , you have a duty to believe that that constitutes proof, in a court of law. That's number one. So, it's not direct evidence, it's preponderance of circumstantial evidence. The second thing is indirect evidence, can also be used when based upon the normal rules of physics. If one is able to see a planet making an unusual journey through the solar system, in other words, its orbit is not fixed upon a central point. But it makes an elliptical orbit, or it has some kind of a zigzag motion, or whatever, you have the right to believe, although you cannot see it, that there is something out there, out of your sight, which has a gravity pull effect on this thing you can see orbit. You can take as granted, that there is something else out there, which you cannot see. Both those things allow me to analyze all of the material that I read , and study, and decipher, and come to the conclusions , that I come to . My conclusions are equal at least , to any convention, and I put to you, better than all conventions. Since I am not starting off the journey with an agenda, and they are. They are making conventions based upon the conclusions they want to achieve. I am making my arguments based upon the evidence that I have seen, whether direct or indirect, including my reasoning, and including my intuition, which is evidence of the past. Jerd: Like I said, you accepted facts. But most people won’t even consider intuition. Glen: That's because they have a different agenda . They don't know where intuition comes from, and they are being managed by people who want to give them their agenda , for short term benefit i.e. , making more friends having a simpler life , having monetary rewards . Any of these things can cause people to accept things, other than reality. When you consider that the system has defined their secret societies, and themselves into 3 + 1 groups, and given them names. You have the group that has the name Earth, which is linked to the ear. Which means they overhear things . Then you have the next group , which is called C. Which basically you get two versions; the Vatican is the Holy See, and weemen living as women, get to see what happens when the door to the bedroom is closed , and their mason is sharing his secrets with his wife. [CSEA] That's the “C” part, then the third part is the Sky. The places you haven't been to yet , but are going to, and gathering information. Those are the three groups of secret societies. So, NASA and Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and people like that, would fit into the group called Sky. Religious people and women who aren't women , would fit into the “C” category. Bell Canada and Shell Oil, and those people would fit into the category of Earth. Jerd: I know this probably happened to you, and this probably happens to a lot of people, but as you go through this learning journey, exposing what is happening, I think certain people , like weemen and men, would get sent towards your direction. Glen: Yeah, they're called Essenes. Jerd: Essenes are the only ones ? I’m talking about a weeman that would get sent towards my direction and try to become involved… Glen: In real life, there are two groups of people. One sent to help, and one sent to hinder. The Essenes are sent to hinder. The group sent to help are called the Cell. Cellular Memory basically means intuitive memory; information that is gained through sensory means . Such as the hair, such as cats , such as the ability of dogs to hear or smell differently than people . All of these sensory things, are the property of a group of people which are, in my world, called the Cell. They overhear all the conversations that people are having, in both a sensory manner, and in a tracking manner, by over listening the listeners set up to spy on people . Like Bell Canada has people who spy on people, and then when they figure something is important, they pass it on to the group’s reader analyst. But in the middle of that journey the Cell gets to know what is being talked about, and they are like the policeman's policeman . They can provide information of a conspiracy being handled by the prime minister's office. For example, in my time, the prime minister's chief of staff , on a secure line is talking with Bell Canada. Telling each other in the conversation, that I am being used in order to acquire a piece of property, that Bell Canada wants for a building that will give them access to underground and the Ottawa River. And when I’ve completed my purchase of all of the property, they will do things to cause the project that I’m working on to shut down. So, that my partners can then sell that property to Bell Canada. This is all on secure lines, but the Cell knows this; they've recorded it. I'm just paraphrasing basically, what they've told me. All of these things will be used at the appropriate time , to bring it to a court ; what they call a Court of Appropriate Justice. They don't believe that the courts we have today can be defined as appropriate justice. They are all of a rigged justice. Jerd: Now these people, this group, this Cell, is part of this system? Glen: It's part of the existing system , but they would be described as defective , by most of the system. Jerd: Oh, ok. Glen: They refuse to believe the bullshit . They're like me, I’m defective, when it comes to my DNA following instructions. They had programmed me to follow certain instructions, and I broke away from it. Mind you, [inaudible] Jerd: That's just like the matrix . In the movie they have these programs that become defective, and go their own way, when they're done following out their program. Glen: If there is some reason , that the person puts reason ahead of treason , they're called defective within the system . Treason is just a telephone pole in front of the word reason. So, most people get their reason from people who are traitors. Therefore, convention is useless to people who care about reality. Jerd: This is like a big body politic . The computer, they have one on each side; left brain, right brain. Then you have us, and these groups like cells and stuff in the body. Glen: All they have to do is make it uncomfortable for most people, and they will stop doing what they're doing. But there are some people out there, that it doesn't matter how uncomfortable you make it, they're not going to go on a journey that follows treason , rather than reason. So, you have to decide at one stage, when you know the facts, based upon all of the circumstantial evidence, and direct evidence, you've acquired in your first 40 years of living , what's reason? Are you prepared to defend reason in the face of treason? Or, are you rather going to look for instant gratification, and see if somebody will pay you to be stupid? Jerd: That's what a lot of people are doing today. Glen: The majority of the people around the world. Jerd: That's how they do it, they use instant gratification. That instant gratification is a big tool. Glen: They don't grasp the concept of the length of eternity. They don't grasp the concept that they ain’t gonna be around, once they get thrown back into the big stew pot. Jerd: The reason why they do that is because of the ego , which rhymes with rego. We really do will their will, because of that little... Glen: Think of the word rego, as the lord of the underworld call ed ogre. I gotta go. It's time for me to go say goodnight to the animals. Jerd: Well, tell them I said goodnight. Glen: They're wondering when you're going to arrive. Jerd: I gotta call the central office, and do all these things. Get a letter of... Glen: Permission. Jerd: Yeah. Glen: Permission to cross the border. Jerd: Just to walk on a piece of land, man. Ridiculous, but I'm going to get it done. Glen: Ok. Jerd: Alright, Glen. Glen: Bye, for now. Jerd: Ok, bye.