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Seeking out those who can UNDERstand, OVERstand and eventually VERstand - Feb 15, 2009



Glen: Hello.

Jerd: Hello.

Glen: Hi.

Jerd: Hi. Uh, I guess you've been really busy.

Glen: No, I've been working with our security.

Jerd: Oh.

Glen: They identified Bell Canada activity yesterday, going on in the neighborhood, and a cruiser
out in front. We're trying to figure out what was going on.  They had two big vehicles.  They told
me not to answer the telephone because that's how they were trying to check out where I was.
Anytime I answered the phone, they know where I am.

Jerd: Hmm. Well, they already know where you are.

Glen: No, they don't.

Jerd: They don't? Really? They have all that technology, they can't…

Glen: I'm on a farm. 34 acres.

Jerd: Oh, they're trying to pinpoint exactly  where on the farm.  Okay, I got you.
ROOKS begat CROOKS, right?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: Yeah, I thought that was really interesting. The more I read your articles, I see the allegories
everywhere. Like I've seen it in The Devil's Advocate. How the devil supposedly makes her cut her
hair. I saw it in another movie. It's called Stepford Wives. I guess all the men, they basically go to
war with the women and get them all like brain-chipped to, to be the way they want them to be.

Glen: Movies are done basically to back up what the system is trying to promote. The actors that
can't make it on the news shows make it in the movies. Most people think of it as the other way
around. That the movies are more important.  But in fact, the news programs are the most
important. So, the best actors go on the news.


Jerd: Another movie I saw too was Conan the Barbarian. There's a scene in there where he sees
this lady and she's like, can you come in. She turns into this demon while they're having sex, and
she kept saying  Gamora, Gamora.  He pushes her into the fire and then she basically gets
destroyed. I guess that's the allegory for destroy demon female. Then he says, Crom, and I guess
that's short for Cro-Magnon. One of the high priests in there, I forgot his name, he's a black guy.
He's a high priest from some snake cult. My friend was telling me he was supposed to be the last
Atlantean or something like that.  I guess I got to freshen up on my geometry , bec ause I was
looking at a post where you mentioned the Masonic Losange.

Glen: Lozenge.

Jerd: Oh, Lozenge.

Glen: Yeah. Like in Los Angeles.

Jerd: Oh, okay. You speak it out.

Glen: A Lozenge is a pill which basically narrows at both ends , so it goes down easier.  That's
why they put Hollywood in a place called Los Angeles. Pills that go down easier than the news.

Jerd: It looks like to me, like it’s a mirrored V. I guess that's before and the Masonic  square and
compass is after or something. What did you mean when you wrote WD40 and DreamWorks?

Glen: WD40 is a spray that unlocks rust.

Jerd: Yeah, I know I have a bottle.

Glen: Yeah, So, DreamWorks is basically the same thing to make things appear natural and work
better because it's like using WD40.


Jerd: In one article you said, Open Sesame (c’est amis) - Open
We Are Friends, and you said something with Jim Hanson (he
made Sesame Street). I think in the Sesame Street, the two
E's in there, that's supposed to be 88 or?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: What's the 88?

Glen: 8 is the number for man  - 88 is a man with a female
exterior - like Hillary Clinton.

Jerd: You put something else in there when you were talking
about the President of Mexico and you put, Me 9/11. I don't
know what that means.

Glen: The President of Mexico was the first one to speak to George Bush after the attacks on 9-
11. The second one was the governor of New York . Obviously, Pataki and the President of
Mexico have something to do with George Bush's control activity - they're the ones that would
be basically giving him the reassurances that what he's doing is okay.

Jerd: I was looking at one article where you went over all the definitions of law.  One particular
one I found interesting , was the first five books of the Hebrew Scriptures is one of the
definitions. I guess that's the law around your mind with religion?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: A wall. Another thing you said was to try to understand what you're saying you have to look
up Horite pictographs. I don't know where to go to even find Horite pictographs.

Glen: Well, when you find words like that, what you should be doing is look up the definition
in dictionaries - two or three different dictionaries or encyclopedias - that's where you get your
leads. The word “Horite”, because an “i” can also be an “o” - you have in there “he root ⇢ he's
the root. So, the Horite were the root in the Middle East, so you go, and you look and find out
exactly what they did. You got to remember that root, because a “t” can also be an “s”, since it
appears together in the word “first”. So, the phonetic of the word “root” becomes “ruse”. So,
they're the ones who prepared the trick,  the plan, for Jerusalem.

Jerd: Yeah, I'm looking at all these words, when you said every word that has IRS in it, is part of
the accumulation system . Like you just mentioned, first  has IRS – shrine - pilgrims, universe,
Raelians.




Glen: Yeah. Any time you get “IRS”, that's the leadership bringing you in the wrong direction  -
Tollgators. Revenue Canada  is the name they use for IRS here in Canada.  Revenue means in
French, bring it back. Venue - venez means bring it on – revenue ⇢ bring it back. So, we are in
the time of Rego or Repo Man - they're out to bring it all back . All came to us via Marco Polo
and China, and now they're bringing it all back . But China got it from India  ⇢ and India got it
from the Himalayas ⇢ the Himalayas got it from Sri Lanka ⇢ Sri Lanka got it from Antarctica at
the Kemp Coast ⇢ Empty...

Jerd: One thing I was curious about, since they genetically engineered Cro -Magnon to have the
piggy back on them, if they already did that, why would they close down Japan until the 1800s,
to do that again?

Glen: Cro-Magnon was basically the male slave made to be a
servant in Africa.  The piggy backing activity didn't happen
until much later.

Jerd: Oh, really?

Glen: It's a process that, number one , it's (well I put it on
today) [an email post], the belt.


Tim Hortons gives you a sandwich called the Belt - it's on a
Bagel. So, a belt goes around mountainous areas. But in there
it says a BELT ⇢ Bacon, Egg, Lettuce, Tomato. Bacon ⇢ Francis
Bacon sets up the New Atlantis, College of Six Days. It’s a con
⇢ he's conducting people. BA basically means male first ,
because “B” is a number two. “A” is a number one  - female
came first . So here we're putting male first  by putting BA
instead of AB. So, you have a male first, and then it's followed
by a woman  - egg. Simple enough.  It's covered in lettuce ;
lettuce is a code word for telus ⇢ communications. Belt in
Texas is called telus. Also, in British Columbia and Alberta, it's
called telus. Let us ⇢ tell us; get the similarity?

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: So, that means male -female communicating back to
head office to tell them everything they find out. Then on top
is tomato ⇢ tom-8-O. Tom backwards ⇢ mot ⇢ French word
for “word” - I am the word. Mot with an “i” instead of an “o”
is “mit” ⇢ Mitt Romney; father, governor of Michigan.
Michigan is shaped like a mitt.


Jerd: It’s going to turn into the sea of Michigan, instead of the lake.

Glen: Yeah

Jerd: I'm always surprising myself with the words that you look at, and you mirror them, and it
shows other words too.

Glen: Yeah, because we've been taught not to question, but to just accept the meanings we
were told in school . In fact, other people were told a different meaning for the same thing .
When they write, they're writing in a coded language to those who are initiated . When you
read, you're reading the definition intended to mislead.

Jerd: Yeah, just the exoteric for the public. I see that, but even the initiated, there's still another...

Glen: Well, there's levels of initiated  - some just read the phonetics, others read the
pictographs. The important thing is syllables , because the syllables (three or four pictographs
together) have a basic meaning. When you read a word, you divide it up into its syllables, find
out the key syllable, and search for other words that have the same syllable . That's when you
start noticing what the root of that syllable is - what the common denominators are.

Jerd: Yeah, I do try to do that.  I see words with similar syllables.  Have you ever tried reading
Egyptian hieroglyphs?

Glen: No, I've looked at them. They are basically pictographs - the same thing as letters. They all
basically come from similar roots . Some are simpler than others, and that's why they were
accepted by most of the Semite families, and especially the Greeks following the Punic Wars,
basically assembled it into an alphabet. Then the Hebrews that use 22 letters, the Greeks used
24, and the Latin is 26.

So, there are some things that are more precise in the Latin versions than in the Hebrew versions,
because they have more letters in order to be more precise. But 26 means ⇢ 2 + 6, is an 8. That
means it's the End Time language, or what they call the universal language - the uni → single,
vers → towards, al → (female la) [feminine principle]

Jerd: In the movie (it's a fairly recent movie and you’ve probably read the book) H.G. Wells, The
Time Machine, they show you the caste system with the people who live on top of the surface,
who are just there to get food. They're basically sheep who are food to supply the people at the
bottom. The people who come and kill them and capture them are these big brutes; I think they
call them Eloi. I guess that's the elite, because they believe that they should rule through might
and all this type of stuff. Then you have another caste, who were people who, they said, evolved
cerebrally, their brains, they were smarter.  They were in control; I guess that's  the
Neanderthalers.


Glen: In the End Times, once the earth has been reassembled the way they want it, the situation
will look like barbells - weightlifters' barbells. So, you will have a place at the North Pole and a
place at the South Pole. At the South Pole, the inside ring is where the Neanderthalers will be
with their computers , and all of the things they have collected , as far as knowledge is
concerned. Then there will be a ring around them of bureaucrats who will in fact serve their
needs, be the servants of the Neanderthalers, and the messengers to the group on the coast
that then travels to the northern area.

Again, there you will have three castes. You will have the people who are the ones who make
contact with the outsiders coming in from Antarctica, and passing the message on to the middle
class who deal with the upper class. The upper class will be the space travelers who will travel
in space to find new places to collect fees and taxes.

Jerd: Another scenario they put in that movie too, is that the moon was basically destroyed and
rocks were falling from the moon.

Glen: Yeah, well, that's a possibility if you consider that a laser beam is a focused beam made
up of a lot of diffused light coming from different directions, and being focused and sent in one
direction. Since the moon does not have plates on it, (it's a solid piece of rock) it can be focused
upon with a laser beam. I suggest that what we call the northern lights today is just a diffused
system that can be focused, and once focused on the moon, or light received from the Hubble
Telescope focused on the moon , will cause it to overheat . Because it has no plates, it will
explode.

Jerd: I actually just spoke to a friend of mine, he said that they mentioned something like this too
in the Vedic scriptures about basically lights or  lasers, or something shooting out.

Glen: So, by exploding, the pieces of rock will come down on earth , and as the earth turns
underneath it, it will be basically focusing rocks on that area of the northern hemisphere which
is between the 8th and the 53rd degree.


Jerd: So, they can just do both of these at the same time, right?

Glen: They will do three, and they could do them in any order , or all at the same time  - three
phases. The plan is to do one before 2020 just so that everybody knows the rules of the game,
and it gets them to choose sides . 2020, it says you will see 2020  - if you go to an optometrist,
2020 means you see clearly. The next one is by 2040 and the final one by 2060, so 20 years of
reflection and activity in between. So cataclysmic activity, and at the end you've killed billions
of people.

At 2062 is supposed to be Halley's comet approaches . Halley is the allegory or symbolism for
Hal, the computer who's in charge . At that point, there is no real activity left in the northern
hemisphere, but the southern hemisphere gets 1000 more years . So by 3062, (a 1000 years
later) the same thing will have occurred to the southern hemisphere. Then what you will have
left is Antarctica and the Northern Cap.

The Northern Cap is shaped like a hat. Some people describe it as a Russian cap with ear flaps.
Other people describe it as  Sherlock Holmes' hat with two visors  - one at the front to keep
the rain from falling in the person's face.  The other one is to protect piggy at the back . The
French Foreign Legion also wear that kind of protection on the back of their hat , so that gives
you a hint as to whose side they're on.

Jerd: I thought that was also interesting too, how you talked about the Louvre Museum. I thought
Louvre was just the past tense of ouvrir (l’ouvrir).

Glen: In French, it's pronounced Louvre - you don't pronounce the “E”.

Jerd: I'm so used to speaking in Creole - it's like a slang version.

Glen: Louvre means open , as in open sesame . That's the cave  - that's the place where the
thieves reside.

Jerd: Yeah, Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves. I guess “Ali” would be “the I” or “the one”?

Glen: Artificial Insemination, Artificial Intelligence;     there is no L    .


Jerd: Then you have Baba, which is two…

Glen: Baba is B-A-B-A ⇢ Barbara. I put on there today, Baru or
Ubar, a place in Oman that disappeared , ( a town that
disappeared) and was found recently by people in satellites
flying, looking down on earth , noticed that there was a pattern
of roads in Oman going nowhere.

They sent archaeologists to look at what these roads were going
to, and they found that town, Ubar, that had collapsed. An entire
colony collapsed underground as the underground structure
gave way, which is a hint of things to come. They've been giving
that hint for a year now, talking about bees, colony collapse -
bees are all dying.

Jerd: Yeah, a lot of people talk about that.

Glen: They're talking about us.

Jerd: Yeah, I guess that's what it was symbolized for.

Glen: Colony Collapse and Credit Crunch - not an accident - they
are two C's . Between two C's  - always important. That's why
John McCain became the candidate for the Republicans, because
they could control the election in the way they wanted it, with
their man leading the losing team.

Jerd: That reminds me, I watched that movie, also, Man churian
Candidate. You said it was a mirror image of that.

Glen: Which one did you watch? The one with...

Jerd: Not the old one. I was going to get the older one. It was the
more recent one.

Glen: You've got to watch the old one, because the new one
basically loses much of the points. Sinatra movie is the one that's right on.

Jerd: I'll look that up, too.  I think it's with Frank Sinatra, right? And even his name, probably  -
Sinatra.

Glen: His name has the word “rat” in there.

Jerd: Jacques de Molay and all these guys, the mole, these are all underground creatures.


Glen: Yeah, especially people in the media are given names.

Jerd: Yeah, I see all their names.

Glen: Not their birth names.

Jerd: Say, I read an article and you see the guy's name, it's like the name is just so out there.
It's just so funny to me, all these names have coding in them.

Glen: They have a purpose.

Jerd: Yeah, that's what the name does.  It's telling you the purpose of what they're doing.  What
was Zorro?

Glen: Ruse ⇠⇢ Zorro. Zorro is a bit of a ruse by itself because all the attention. If you remember
correctly the last movie, the big poster was Zorro, and he was sword fighting with some woman.

Zeta Jones, I think it was. Everybody's looking at Zorro and they see a man in a mask, but what
they miss is the real point - she's the man in the mask - her mask is female.

Jerd: Oh, man. That reminds me of the newer version of Manchurian Candidate. The senator that
was hypnotized, his mother just reminded me of a hermaphrodite.  How she controls, she used
her feminine charm, but she was a man.

Glen: Another Hillary Clinton.



Jerd: Yeah, with that short hair. I thought it was interesting how you said, The Way of Saint James
is Western Freemasonry?



Glen: Yeah, well, “James” is “I am” ⇢ ici - I am. E and S at the end ⇢ an “S” can be a letter “C”, or
an “S”, or a “Z”. So, it says “ici”, and the letter “J” can be pronounced like an “I” ⇢ I am ⇢ Here I
am.

Jerd: So, if that's the way of Western Freemasonry, what's Eastern Freemasonry?

Glen: Buddhism - the Buddha and Taoism.

Jerd: So that guy, the Dalai Lama, his name…

Glen: Dalai Lama's whole story is that they find a person whom they say is the reincarnation of
Buddha. They're not telling you the entire story.

Jerd: Genetic engineering.

Glen: That they, in fact, used the DNA of the last Buddha to manufacture new kids. They make
maybe a half a dozen, and they put them out in Tibet in different neighborhoods. Then when it
comes time to choose a new Buddha, a new Dalai Lama, they interview the half dozen or so ,
(some may have been killed growing up ) and I think at about the age 12 is when they do the
interview, and at that stage, they decide who will be the next one. They say, we chose him because
he was the reincarnation of Buddha , but they don't tell you that they all were  - everyone they
interviewed, basically, someone had been cloned from the original.


Jerd: It’s interesting to me how t hey have really successful mind control out there in the East.
They have one type of people that just breathe air - they say don't eat food. They just breathe in
air and get energy off the sunlight.

Glen: The Asian mind was built to be ROM memory - read only memory. Then they gave them
“Confucius” in order to “confuse” them - he brought the manual. If they were going to be Read
Only, they had to have a manual, so he brought the manual. Then everybody learns Confucius
in school, and then they proceed to do what they're told, because that's what they're supposed
to do. Whereas the mindset of the Western man was based upon the rooster.  Makes a lot of
noise - a rooster - gets chickens in trouble.

Jerd: And it's a ruse, too.

Glen: Yeah, it's got a ruse in it, and what he does is yell, any cock will do, and along comes the fox
to eat the chicken. So, the rooster is somebody that doesn't really think things through in much
detail, but comes up with concepts because it's random access. That's because the job in the
West was eventually to be space travel, which it has now performed.

If you are a Neanderthaler living in the Moho discontinuity, you can't write a manual on space
travel because you don't go there - you've never been out of your hole for thousands of years,
so you have to have somebody else who's going to write the book . That's Western man, is to
writes the story of space travel, getting to the edges of the solar system, and then sending that
information down below. It's done through the award of Nobel Prizes for science, physics. They
send their manual, and it gets added to the knowledge that the Neanderthalers have put into
their main computers based upon how you can live underground , or on the ground , and now
they have above ground. There's a fourth one, living in the water, which also is in there.

Jerd: Back to the hole, is that also symbolic on
Groundhog Day? Is there another meaning to it?

Glen: Well, it's done by masons. Groundhog Day, if
you look at the presentation, it's always guys with
top hats, white gloves, tails, so they're all masons.
They're basically sending out a message to their
own people about, did the job that had been
assigned to them over the winter get done, or do
they still have work to do. Obviously, this year, since
they said still six more weeks of winter, it means
they haven't done the job , t hey were assigned,
completely yet, and get to work at it. You only have
six more weeks to finish this off  - no holidays, no
going on pilgrimages until you've done this job.


Jerd: I’m reminded me of something you said , between two C’s. So, is that the same concept
when you're reading a word like Mecca? Two C’s in there.

Glen: Yep, as soon as you have two C’s, it means this is important. In reality, the two C’s they are
talking about is, 1: the Vatican ⇢ the Holy SEE, and 2: the males that have a female exterior are
called the SEA. Because they basically are “A”⇢ at the end of a word means female , and they
are put in different slots to find out things that you cannot see from the outside.

Mostly it's spying on their own men, because their men are running companies, or the military
or government, or whatever. They wanted a spy in the bedroom, so they made these women
to be the equivalent of arranged marriages in India , and arranged marriages by royal families.
So, now that we're in a democratic world, they have somebody who would work their way in to
be like a trophy wife for these men. Somebody like a geisha, who would have a great education,
be entertaining for the man when he brings the people home from work, that kind of stuff . Be
very up on current activities, but in the bedroom (sex) anything went.

So, the man got what he was looking for at home, and he got what he was looking for when he
brought his fellow workers to meet his wife, or brought her to work. The main model today of the
perfect person for that task is Carla Bruni. She's the wife of the current president of France,
Sarkozy. Former model, has done an album of things. One of the songs is about the 40 lovers that
she's had.  She has taken nude photographs , and they've been leaked out on purpose so that
everybody in France is jealous. Who's this Hungarian Frenchman with this beautiful Italian wife?
Her name fits the role, La Car ⇢ Carla ⇢ the car ⇢ the vehicle. Bruni ⇢ Brown ⇢ Brown One ⇢
two in one.

Jerd: I don't know if you've ever heard of Aldous Huxley (I guess his name is the two hexes). I
read his book and watched the movie (Brave New World) based on it. They talk about this world
where everybody's bred for that purpose. It's so funny because he talks about it as if it's a world
to come, but we've been like that for a long time now.

Glen: Before you even got here.

Jerd: Yeah haha, I guess that was his trick, right?

Glen: Haha, yeah. Make you think it's science fiction, because science fiction has now replaced
mythology as everyday dream world. But in fact, there is nothing to come - everything is here.
The only thing that is happening is refinement - getting it really down pat before 2062 or 3062 for
the southern hemisphere. They have to get all of the answers down pat because there's no more
chance afterwards - the animals in the lab are all going to be destroyed . You can't go back and
retest anything, so the Neanderthals have to make sure they got it perfectly correct.

Jerd: I read that you call it the secret covenant. One of them were saying that the people will not
be remembered with Creation. Isn't that the same as the Protocols of Zion?


Glen: Protocols of Zion (from what I remember about it) is a manuscript written for the purpose
of creating polarization - two teams. It was basically done by Russians, but the word “Zion” tells
you what it's all about.

Jerd: It’s sin and on. It's a deity, the hermaphrodite.

Glen: Number 10 in the middle of a “Z” and “N” ⇢ which are the same letters ⇢ so, it means a
basic change of direction towards  10, and 10 is the beginning of the perfect sla ve. My view, is
that there will be refinements ⇢ there's an “11” to come, there's a “12” to come, there's a “13”
to come, and probably a “14” and “15” along the way, because they're certainly not finished. If
you look at Carla Bruni, she may have a female exterior, male interior, and a piggy in the neck ,
but there's still the job of incorporating the communications device  ⇢ the lettuce  ⇢ the
telephone, that we now have to put to our ear, must at one stage of the game be implanted, so
that as we hear and as we speak, those communications are done instantaneously.

Jerd: So, we're going to be implanted, you said?

Glen: Yeah, communications that we see as a cell phone today , will one day be cells  inside the
body, so that still needs to be done.

Jerd: Oh, so the thing with the Verichip, do you think that was used to polarize?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: Oh, really?

Glen: The other thing is man must be triphibian, which basically means must be as comfortable
on Earth as in the sea, as in the sky. So, there's gadgets where Rocket Man there, they've jumped
over some cliff or something. Right now, it only lasts for a few seconds, but eventually that kind
of stuff will last for hours where you don't use just a car.  You're going out and you want to get
somewhere fast, you put on your vest and fly up in the air by yourself . The other thing is you
must have gills to go in the water and survive in the water . Originally, we had gills, so it can't
be much of a problem to get there since we were a worm that becam e an eel, that became a
reptile that came out of the water.

Jerd: So that's like a recessive gene, right?


Glen: Yeah, so we'll get that again , so e ach one of them
may be a different number. But we know that the direction
in which we're going is a number 8, and each number
along the way is a basic step in that direction. Number one
is a light - must concentrate on the light. In French they call
it “phare” (lighthouse). What do you call those things that
you put when you have an accident on the road, -you break
it?

Jerd: Flares?

Glen: Flare, yeah. So, it's a thing to focus attention upon
you, as the one responsible for a task. The second, number
two, is a symbol of a yoke of oxen  - kind of a Y they put
around an ox to pull a plow through the field.  Three, is
basically a hint that the future eight will have three major
component parts of Neanderthaler, female, and male.

A four says there's always going to be someone slightly at a distance to receive your
communications. Like Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa has three peaks, two of which are in Tanzania,
and one in Kenya. They're all together, but the border goes through between the peaks. But over
on the side in Tanzania there is Mount Meru, which is basically symbolic of the controlling activity.
Number five is something like you throw a rope from a ship and tie onto a dock.  It looks a little
bit in the shape of a cherry with a crossbar on top, so the rope hangs on there, and that's basically
the female-male version.

Six is the original woman, which is shaped like a coiled serpent . Is the symbol for wisdom, the
knowledge of things that were of the earth, were in the Clan Mothers in the old days. Seven is an
altar - if you put two sevens back-to-back you create basically an altar. That means, this is where
the changes are coming about.  Then you have the eight, which is an original zero with another
zero placed on top, so second version of the male - Cro-Magnon being the first - Roma being the
second, so number eight is the model for male.

Number nine was the attempts they made to make other genders. So, the nine is in the shape of
an upside down six, and it is basically telling you the story of the gay, the lesbian, the cross gender,
were all attempts at ending up with the perfect slave that would report back.  In the end they
decided that these are not appropriate , and they have scratched off nine.  Which they have
symbolized by saying Pluto is no longer a planet , so you're left with Goofy, the other dog.  The
eight must be changed, so the second man becomes the 88 ⇢ new man but with a totally new
outdoor exterior appearance of female.


Jerd: So, you were telling me in Freemasonry, say you support it, and they artificially inseminate
the person's wife. How would…because Freemasonry...

Glen: It doesn’t happen to every mason. Most masons wouldn't have a clue. It only happens to
the selected ones - the ones they call the elect.

Jerd: Oh, elect. So, this is what they do to introduce it into society, right?

Glen: Yeah, they need to make babies . But more important, because they have been making
babies all along in nunneries and in royal families. But they need to make babies that can live
in democratic societies , because along the way, they discovered that democracy is the best
control mechanism for slaves. You make people believe they're free, and you don't have to whip
them to get them to do things - they do it on their own.

Jerd: Plato brought up democracy too.  He said, yeah, they chose democracy, but democracy
always ends up going into tyranny.

Glen: Turning into what?

Jerd: Turning into tyranny.

Glen: That's at a time when they can make their own descendants . Now, with the system they
have in place, the perfect slave (the 88) will not be able to make their own babies . They'll only
be able to artificially inseminate the egg that will come to them in a jar. That's why the Valkyries
are separate from the soldiers at the End Times, because the Valkyries are the women, and they
have gone out on the battlefield to collect the DNA from all the fallen soldiers who were
considered to be superior , and have collected their DNA, and at the End Times, at Ragnarök,
they're supposed to remake all of the fallen soldiers , so that they can fight for the End Times
battle. They call these people “einherjar” - is the word they use.

Jerd: In her jar?

Glen: It basically means DNA in her beaker.

Jerd: I also noticed that DNA comes from the word  NeAND
backwards.

Glens: I t also comes from one - two. Because “A” is the first
letter, and ND is the end of the word second.

Jerd: Yeah, and I see that in the word standard.

Glen: The word standard has 1-2-3. ST from first, ND from second, RD from third.


Jerd: But that's just Cabbalistic coding. There are other levels of coding too, because it's different
veils.

Glen: Yeah, because they deal with so many different groups of people who have different
purposes, and they only have one language, they have to give them a code which is specific to
their activity. So, you can have Cabalarian Count, you can have Desdemona Pictograph, you can
have Phoenician Phonetics, so that you only listen to the sound.


Depending on which task you're assigned, they will assign a specific code to you. That's why on
Saturday in the newspaper, you have a section that has astrology and bridge, and linking all the
words in a puzzle by putting circles around letters that match side by side type of thing. All these
things are codes for Masons who read that paper, (New York Times) and each one has a different
one.

So, somebody's code may be bridge , another person's code may be astrology , a third person's
code may be the link the numbers type of thing , or figure out which words are printed in this
puzzle, and once they have the code, it gives them certain instructions . It may be something
they have to do, and it may be which number to pick on the lottery for which day. That way, they
won't win the big prizes, but they win these prizes that make them feel like insiders where they
get $10 or $5 or $80 or whatever. They can tell their neighbors, I won again.

Jerd: Oh, so that's the Neanderthaler in the spine, it makes you feel good, right?

Glen: Yeah.







Jerd: In your newspaper, do you have a diagram that shows all the color coding? Because it says
life begins at green, at 40, power at red.

Glen: I think all of that stuff is there someplace in one of the
papers. Because as I was going through life learning about
these things, instead of writing a diary, I'd prepare the paper.
All of that stuff got put in one place or another. Color coding is
one version, but you also have to remember that color
appears in photographs , a nd there are basically a million
shades. So, someone can receive a picture and put it on their
scanner and scan away all the colors except the color that
they are looking for, and the picture turns out to be different
than the one you and I would be looking at.

The same thing happens with movies . By having colored
movies, you may have a different picture that appears every
now and then, than the one who is just watching the movie.
Or there may be some squiggly lines that appear on the side
and say, this is the important part - pay attention.

Jerd: In your articles, it says, masons read this slowly, danger,
your brain might begin to function.  You said to read the part
about the Benedictines and the one on Yiddish. I followed the
link and it was a dead link. I looked up your name on a Google
search and I think you are on a website where you are known
as an anti-Mason.

Glen: Oh yeah, of course.

Jerd: Who put you on there?

Glen: Well, when I started this project, masons were not even part of my consideration. But as I
worked my way through, I found out that politicians were crooks. Then I found out that the media
were crooks. Then I found out that the police were crooks. Then I found out that secret societies
were crooks. So, every time I found a new gang of crooks, I made a new bunch of enemies, and
by today, there is nobody left to be my friend.

Because everybody played some kind of role in making this thing happen. After all, it has been
going on for 60,000 years since the fight , and at least the last 6,000 years is the College of Six
Days, s o everybody has played a role in making the miserable world we live in miserable .
Including me, because I was programmed like everybody else , and believed it like everybody
else. So, I look at the world differently than I used to, and I basically agree that everybody looks
for the devil, but when the finger is pointed at them, they don't want to believe.


Jerd: That's why they created the devil, so they can never look at themselves.

Glen: But we are all devils until we change . That's the benefit of knowing all of this, is at one
stage of the game, you can make a conscious decision not to be what they made you originally.
You cannot change what they made yo u, y ou were a robot, and you are a robot until you
consciously learn that you are a robot , and make a decision not to be one . For most people,
that's the age of 40.

 Today it may be a little faster because the technology of communications is much better, but for
me, it took until I was 47. I'm 68 now, so 21 years of being me has taught me that there ain't no
money in it . Every time you speak out, you're making more enemies  because you're pointing
the finger at everybody has played a role in this . You have a choice of being quiet about it , or
trying to educate people who might like you, want to learn.

I've chosen that I've got broad shoulders. I don't really care whether people like me or not. I will
tell them what I believe. They don't have to take my word for it. They just start looking after they
hear the story. Before they hear the story, they don't have a chance in the world because they
don't know where to look or how to start . I give them the premise. From the premise, the job
is then theirs.

Jerd: Yep. I see that, the way you put it in that format. It's really up to me to put it together.

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: So that's what I've been doing.

Glen: We're all a different life story . We must always go back and revisit our entire life story .
Nobody can do that but you.

Jerd: Yeah, I try to. Ever since I really found out about this stuff, I'm incredibly lonely. But the good
thing is though, the people that are my friends, these are people across the planet. I can say that
they're genuinely good people.  I can actually really call them friends because the people I had
before this, it was all superficial - it was fake.

Glen: The people who are real searchers are not very difficult people to deal with if you accept
the fact that you too, like they, were robots once.  You're doing what you can to get out of the
mess we're in and help other people who would like to do that. Mind you, that doesn't prevent
a whole bunch of masons from pretending they're your friends until such time as they get a
chance to do you harm.






I've had that when I was traveling across Canada, speaking in different towns.  I'd have people
who would invite me to stay at their place.  As soon as my transportation was gone or my
material was in storage, they'd throw me out just to cause me trouble. I've had people who've
come here on the pretext that they were going to help on the farm and went around breaking
every piece of equipment we had . So, I accept the fact that there are some bad people and
some good people and you cannot generalize. You have to give everybody a chance.

Jerd: Yeah, but it gets even worse.  With me, if I really, really showed everything to my whole
family, I think they would turn on me.

Glen: Sure.

Jerd: And that kind of hurts.

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: Your own family would turn on you.

Glen: That's the price you pay because after all, at the end, you've got to remember that the
truth that lies in the middle is like the seed of an orange. It's surrounded by the 13 people who
want to protect the seed . They are soulmates , if you want to use current language.  They are
there to protect the universe - there's only 13. So, it's a law of physics - 13 are there because 12
always protect the one, and the one is any one of the 13. It's like doing a dance. They just change
positions all the time, but the seed is the knowledge.

When I started this, I thought, hey, as soon as people find out about this, I'm going to have
100,000 friends. Then after 10 years, I said, maybe there are two. I can't really vouch for the other
two, any more than they can vouch for me.  I'm as different from they are, as they are from me.
So, they're never quite sure. Am I for real?

Jerd: I can't even go out or anything anymore.

Glen: There's nothing to talk about to other people.

Jerd: We're worlds apart. I'm at that young age.  I guess the hormones and everything.  I'm just
like, damn, I see some beautiful women, but there's nothing to talk about.

Glen: Where do you start this conversation?

Jerd: I can't even talk about anything. It gets difficult. Maybe I could find a female or something.
Maybe through doing this somehow, maybe it might bump. I remember a few years ago I went to
this 9-11 anniversary type of thing and I met people there. But then there's always the levels of
awareness with people. Because then you'll deal with people who are just on the patriot level,
and they see everything, the Constitution.


Glen: Patriotism is just another religion.

Jerd: Yeah, as a matter of fact, I've seen an interview with you. It's on a website. For $10 you can
buy it. They say it's with you and Bill Cooper.

Glen: Bill Cooper called my house one day.  I had no idea who Bill Cooper was.  But it wasn't
televised. I was on the radio.  But I found out after who Bill Cooper was  - a “cooper” keeps
chickens - chicken coop.

Jerd: The thing with Bill Cooper, though, I found out that he was really into the Constitution, his
religion. He didn't want to let go. I think he was genuinely against masons and the system.

Glen: Well, he could’ve been but…

Jerd: He didn't realize the people who were around him were part of it.

Glen: He was being used.

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: In the same way as I was being used, when I began this project, I was pointing out to the
fact that politicians were crooks.  Well, there's nothing Neanderthalers like more than to have
the finger pointed at the wrong people . Sure, politicians are crooks , but they're just robots  -
they're working for the Neanderthalers . I remember the day that I was on a radio talk show in
Vancouver, with a guy by the name of Rafe Mair.

Before I went on there, he said, I heard you talk recently and I heard your opinion on free trade.
I don't want you to be discussing free trade during my show . I said, I thought this was a talk
show. You mean there are rules where we're not allowed to discuss certain things? He said, yeah,
there are rules, and I don't want you to be talking about that . The first caller that called in or
second caller, I forget now, said something about Brian Mulroney, the Prime Minister of Canada -
you've pointed out on a number of occasions where he's a crook.

I said, yeah, you got that right. I said, before you go too far down that line, you have to remember
one thing. Brian Mulroney doesn't make decisions.  Brian Mulroney has a boss.  You have to go
follow the boss to find out what's really happening.  Of course, the common denominator of a
crook is money. Therefore, you've got to follow the money and who supplies the money.  You've
got to go look at those people who are in charge of revenue in Canada.  Well, that was the last
time I appeared on Rafe Mair's show.

Jerd: Wow. You were involved with this lady too, Shelley Ann Clark? Whatever happened to her?

Glen: Yeah, not involved with, I was married to her.


Jerd: Oh, you were married to her?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: Oh, wow. I never knew that. Wow. I remember hearing when I used to listen a lot to Alan
Watt, h e would mention Shell ey Ann Clark a lot.  How s he spoke out against free trade and
everything. She was warning people. What was she? She was a politician, right?

Glen: No, she was an assistant - secretarial assistant to people involved in negotiating free trade
with the United States at the ambassador level - trade ambassador level.

Jerd: Oh, wow. You were married to her? Wow.

Glen: She was my second wife. I had one wife for almost 25 years, and then I split up and lived
with another woman for four years. Then I split up with her and married Shell ey Ann Clark, who
became Ann Kealey. I lived with her for four years, and then she was discouraged that there was
no money in being a whistleblower.

Jerd: Oh, she thought she was going to get money out of it.

Glen: She thought in the end that if it wouldn't be in the form of cash, it would be in the form of
appreciation by people. I told her, I said, it doesn't work that way. People appreciate you for a
minute or two when it happens, but they forget.  They move on to the next story . There's no
glory, there's no money, there's no appreciation, there's none of that stuff. You just do your job
and tell people and hope that it helps them. In the meantime, you survive. After four years, she
couldn't take it anymore.

Jerd: Oh, wow.

Glen: So, she went back to living with her family, her original family. Her former husband died and
left the two sons enough money to buy a house. So, they moved in, the two sons and her, into a
house. But she's like most people, who don't want to admit they were robots, fighting it every
day and having to live with it, and feeling depressed and all of that.

I never got to the point of feeling depressed, because I got to figure out what was really going on.
I get motivated internally. I don't need pats on the back.  I certainly don't need to speak to the
media because I know their true role in life , and it has nothing to do with helping me , so I just
ignore them. They call every now and then , or come and I say, if I lived in Chicago, would I be
speaking to Al Capone?

Jerd: No.



Glen: Why do you expect me to speak to you?  You're Al Capone's boss. If you don't understand
that yet, you go back to the school of journalism and speak to the dean and say, dean, why is it
that when I have certain stories, they won't publish them? Why is it that they keep asking me to
do puffball stories on individuals that I know are not that nice? Once you figure that, the answer
to those questions out, you'll understand the real role of the media is to carry the project called
Polaris to turn.

Polaris is basically to polarize so you, the media, can be the middleman, you can be the enforcer
on both sides, and on election day, you're the only winner. We all lose every election because
we all believe (most people believe) that there is going to be change that comes about , and it
comes from politicians. Politicians are servants of a controlling mechanism.

Jerd: They’re a certain caste, too. Like the universities, they go and get a special type of education
just to be...

Glen: Political science, no different than journalism, no different than physics, no different than
law - it's a task.

Jerd: I remember when I used to go to college, speaking to one of the head of political science,
this lady, in the political science department. I'm just explaining, just regular history, and she just
got so angry with me. I guess she didn't want to believe that politics was just a show.

Glen: Most people who haven't got a clue, don't want to have a clue, if it's going to go counter
to what they already believe. They only want to hear things like politicians are crooks because
they already believe that. They may not have the evidence, but when you come out and you say,
and so are universities - they steal in order to brainwash, and people pay them. It's like paying a
guy not to break your knees.

Jerd: With this president now, it's sad, because people your age, after all these years, you've seen
politicians come and lie over and over and over.  You're going to still fall back into that program
and say, okay, this guy might do something. Wow.

Glen: Four years later, they put a sign on their lawn saying, vote for this guy.

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: Stupid.

Jerd: It gets me so aggravated when I just drive around and I just see this.  You guys are robots.
You're in the matrix.






Glen: Right now it's even worse because at least in the old days they were crooks in their own
right, but now they're being managed by women who aren't women. At home, they've got their
leader who's a male on the inside , telling them what to do . In order to make sure he does it,
they tell him how handsome he is, and how beautiful he is, and give him a blow job and whatever,
in order to get him on side.

These people are so stupid that they, in fact, believe these women love them . But in fact, the
woman only loves two things when she's in that role - that's sovereignty and security. Money,
more than what she needs, and wants to feel in charge of the life support structure of someone
that brings in the money.

Jerd: Yeah, and the whole thing with the relationship between man and woman, I came to realize
that even you see the word “Roma” in romantic - it was just another con. There was no such thing
as romance. The marriage system was basically just a control mechanism and breeding.  Do you
really think there's no genuine love between…

Glen: It's not what Creation created. What Creation created was a clan - a clan is real . That
means a division of tasks - both male and female, and the occasional mating upon request by a
female. The male goes and spends some time , and then he basically returns to doing what he
does best. The clan takes responsibility for the children - raises the children. Some lessons are
taught by the six males assigned as soulmates , s ome lessons are taught by the six females
assigned as soulmates, and the original mother has a role of leadership.

Jerd: So, people were like polygamists, you’re saying?

Glen: No, the clan always provided the children of other people , would be the ones who would
raise the new babies. So, in your life you would be taught by 12 , and you would be one of 12
teaching others.

Jerd: Oh, wow, that's really interesting.

Glen: There are remnants of that left in old native (what they call native) which is really marooned
romas. I've been in a house with a guy who was a chief or second in command of the Algonquins
in Quebec, north of Ottawa. He had a 12-year-old son who was mentally defective, and physically
his body was all kind of shriveled up. It was like a big four-foot baby in a crib.

Jerd: I think it's Down Syndrome?

Glen: No, it's not Down Syndrome, but it's one of those diseases.  We were sitting at the table
having dinner. Ann was with me, I think, on that particular visit. This child was in this crib, basically
in a hallway off of the dining kitchen area we were in, not too far from the front door. As we ate,
the door would open  - knock, knock, knock  - nobody waits, nobody goes to the door, and
somebody would come in - it could be a man or it could be a woman.

They would go and they would spend a half hour with this kid in the crib. At the end, they'd turn
around and walk back and say , hi, on the way past the kitchen , and out the door.  During our
dinner, that happened, I think, three times or four times , and I said, what's this? She said, well,
in our community, a physically or mentally deformed child, is considered to be a gift to us from
Creation, and we must share the gift with the community.

Therefore, none of us, because we're the physical parents, are really responsible for that child 24
hours a day. We take our turns, but the whole community sees the child as theirs, and they come
and participate. She said, of course, it makes it a lot easier than it would be in a white family ,
where a child that's that sick, deformed, whatever, is really a burden 24 hours a day. Because he
wears a diaper, and it's got to be changed , and it's got to be washed , and turned around in the
crib, and all of that.

If it was left only to one or two people, we'd break down  - we'd be nervous wrecks . But this
way, hey, the kid feels loved - got all these people that come to visit  -they all help out in one
way or another. He died at about the age of 16, but that's the way they treated it.  To me, that
was symbolic of how a clan used to function.

A baby is born - he's born to a mother who basically breastfeeds the baby.  But after a period of
time, the young girls in the community come and help the mother.  Six of them were assigned,
and each in turn, they would come and spend some time rocking the baby , or playing with it, or
walking around outside with it. That continued until the baby was about five or six years old. Then
men would come in, and teach specific trades if the baby was a boy.

Aunts, at one stage of the game, would come in and teach the child about sex. Especially, the ugly
women in the community that didn't get an answer to their invitations when they invited men to
come and live with them for a while. Felt kind of deprived, not having any sex or children of their
own. But they were quite willing to have sex with a 12 or 13-year-old boy, who for him it was the
first time. He didn't care that they weren't the best looking ones.  All he wanted was to get laid
basically. Sometimes there would be a baby born, and the aunt would have had her turn at being
a mother. She could join the Clan Mothers and be a politician and judge in the community, that
type of thing.

We have totally reversed life from where it was. When people say, well, you can't live like that,
no, you can't live like that today . Because everything leans upon the other, and everything's
been designed to work in a system that doesn't function . But everybody tries to make it
function, and at the end, this is what we have. So, if at any stage of the game, one were able to
reverse the system, don't expect that tomorrow morning people would think the way they used
to think. It will take at least 200 years of reversing the process to bring people around to how
Creation intended people…





Jerd: People have to know what they're working on …because that's what a lot of the younger
people… that's why there's so many divorces, they're trying to emulate something that...

Glen: They're trying to make something work that doesn't function . It wasn't designed to
function. It was designed to stop people dead in their tracks , so that they didn't have time to
think. They just had time to react to the situation , and reacting doesn't allow you to change
directions. So, divorces are normal rather than marriage.

Jerd: Yeah, it is normal.

Glen: Get them out of that situation, and at least you have a chance to start thinking. Because
a person must before anything , be themselves . You cannot be yourself and marr ied - it's a
contradiction in terms - marriage is a compromise. You'll be half her and she'll be half you, and
you meet halfway, so nobody's happy.

Jerd: Yeah, and it's married to this system. I never understood either, how you have to have the
government involved in what you do in your private life.

Glen: Government, church, school, the media - everybody's involved in telling you what to do.

Jerd: Yeah, I know it's true with women , because I've been observing, and analyzing, a lot of
things, and concluding. I see with women - so much we've gotten from them, like how to have
compassion and love - that all came from the woman.

Glen: Absolutely, you've got to remember that as much trouble as we men have , it's nothing
compared to the problems that were inflicted upon women. However, that being said, you must
remember that the project is to remove women completely from our society by making them
a veneer around a male body. Therefore, the compassion that you want to give to women has
to be carefully distributed, because it may not be going to a woman - it is going to a weeman.

Because an “O” can be replaced with an “E”, and when it's internal, it’s the two Es together is
the number 88 . WEE ⇢ “yes man”, is basically what you get  - not a woman . I would ask the
question today - how many original women are out there? How many original people who think
the way Clan Mothers thought, and who are genetically feminine like Clan Mothers were? Or
are all women today somewhat different than the original?

We know men are , because we began life as being a support structure for women , and now,
most of the abuse that women get , comes from men. So obviously, at one stage of the game,
the mentality of men has been converted to one of wanting to feel superior to women and
they've become abusers of women. All you have to do is look at Arabs, look at the Middle East,
look at all Asian communities - how they treat women.




Jerd: It's like they actually abort all the women , and it's so disgusting, I've heard in China they
have stalls where they basically milk, they masturbate the men , because there's just no women
around. I've heard people say, you know, they have so many children, and it's overpopulation. It
really is a lot of BS to me.

Glen: It's all changed, and were it to be reversed, it can only be done with the help of Creation,
the process, as opposed to creator, the gods. It cannot be done in less than 200 years. We haven't
started the process yet. Maybe learning about how it used to be in the old days, the real history
that was herstory before the Ice Age is the way to do it. But Creation has to give a hand because
it's not possible for single human beings to cause the change to occur. Critical mass ⇢ 13. If you
put 13 people who grasp the premise totall y and work together, ( and it's basically more a
mental thing than a physical activity) maybe Creation will hear - cause a reversal to occur.

If not, the end result we know already, is basically the plan of the tollgators is continuing to its
place where only two choices can occur. Creation can say, let it be, let it happen, let it continue,
or Creation says, okay, I've seen enough, shut it down.  Either way, we don't win. So hopefully
we can cause reason to prevail by creating this critical mass of 13 people. We'll see. It's not up
to any individual to make it happen, but I here sit in a place that would be appropriate for those
people to come and make it happen.

Jerd: I'm trying to understand. I understand more and more every day.

Glen: In any event, my friend, I've got to go.

Jerd: Okay.

Glen: I've got other things to do before I fall asleep, and that's not too far away since I've been up
since 4 o'clock this morning.

Jerd: Oh, my god. So, you watch that sun come up every morning.


Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: Alright.

Glen: Bye for now.

Jerd: Alright, bye.