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Reborn - May 24, 2009



Glen: Hello?

Jerd: Hello Glen.

Glen: Hi. How's it going?

Jerd: Another day. I guess today's date is the day of my rebirth.

Glen: Yeah?

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: Congratulations. How many years have you been reborn?

Jerd: 26.

Glen: 26 now. That adds up to 8. So, you've become a man.

Jerd: I was talking to a friend and he said, I forgot the exact name of the author, but he said there’s
another author who published a book about Neanderthalers. Are you aware of anybody else that
talks about Neanderthalers?

Glen: Well, I suspect there are some scientific people  in the scientific world, but the only
information that I gather is basically from encyclopedias, dictionaries.

Jerd: Did you find a lot of stuff about Neanderthalers in the encyclopedias?

Glen: Yeah. The scientific papers are written by people whose salary is paid by someone who
has an interest in keeping the story going, whatever story they've got going at the time . So, I
kind of discount the specific information published by the scientific community . In an
encyclopedia, you're getting kind of an overview with basically people bringing in half a dozen or
a dozen different books that they've used to make up the article. But it's broader, easier to grasp.

They're not quite aware of exactly what they're hiding, whereas the scientific person would
know. Anybody in science would know automatically that Creation didn't happen 4000BCE, and
they have the general knowledge.  So, taking that , adding it to my book of life and the
knowledge that I have gained in this life, I look for a basic, premise, common denominator that
runs across everybody's stories and compare it to what my intuition gave me prior to my birth
when it prepared my genome for this trip.


Jerd: You know what I think?  I think that the system, like with the whole intuition and the gut
feeling, I think they took that and spun it off into spirituality.

Glen: Yeah. Well, a lot of spirituality, the part about heaven, hell, burning forever in a fire, all of
that is just based on the geology of the planet.

Jerd: Yeah, I see that. In all the mysteries and they all talk about the underworld.

Glen: The spiritual thing is basically telling you up front, like any spirit, you're on  LSD, you're
hallucinating, and they tell you up front , except most people don't grasp that concept , that
anything that's spiritual is no different than being on rye or scotch or gin or beer ⇢ you're
hallucinating, and of course, the biggest hallucination is LSD, and that's why the Mormons use
the term “Latter-Day Saints”.

Jerd: Yeah, I had a talk with this person who I called. He emailed me, and he was asking to help
him write this science fiction book.  We were talking, and I think he's had an overview, not of all
your work, but he heard an interview on the internet.  The conversation kept going to all the
dimensions and consciousness, and I think that's part of that new age.

Glen: Yeah, yeah.

Jerd: Because that stuff really isn't new. It's all like all the old, like shamanistic, all these old things.



Glen: Yeah, sheman [shaman]. The story is the same . They interpret it differently with each
group who gets assigned the task of confusing the world, and of course, the shemen, the native
community were given that task first, because they were “marooned” a long time ago.

Jerd: With the s hemen, are they the same ones who were marooned , like the Aztecs and the
Mayans?

Glen: Yeah, you have basically groups of Asians who've been programmed in the religions of
the East, and then they get thrown on a boat , 40 at a time or whatever , and dropped off in
different places around the world . So, that's why there's a basic story that remains the same
among all of what they call native people . Because they basically come from the same place ,
which is at first Asia, the Far East, and eventually the nearer part around the Middle East .
“Indonesia” is telling you that that's where the Indians went first to Asia ⇢ Indo| new ones
(new E) | Asia.

Jerd: So, they're all just marooned Roma, right?

Glen: Yeah, gypsies, walkers, wanderers, there's [a] whole bunch of words for them . But they
all basically come down to , they're homeless, they make a living day to day, and they wander
or walk, looking and recording what they see for the system.

Jerd: Oh, so it's in their genome, they can't stay stagnant and just live in one place.





Glen: No, that's right, and they have their own rituals and their own stories, and it all is designed
to build upon what's already there . You have older people and chiefs, and  they are like
Republicans and Democrats.  The older people are called  “elders” ⇢ “the red”, and the new
ones coming down the road  will be called  “alder” ⇢ “Alderamin”. So, it's changing from
masculine to feminine ⇢ from “le” to “la”.

Jerd: Last time I spoke to you, you said in the mysteries that basically they came out with Indian
mysteries, and then they updated?

Glen: Yeah, every group that gets started has a general understanding of where the stories came
from, and India is the central factory, and then they begin to change the story, because most of
it is spoken rather than written. So, a corporate pipe carrier or a historian, within a community,
changes the story to adjust it to what they want in that community.

Jerd: Because I see in all the mysteries, it's basically the same story.  But, like you were saying, I
guess the last one was a Scandinavian one.

Glen: Yeah. The names are changed to protect the guilty , not the innocent, as they used to do
on dragnet.

Jerd: I really want to look into this. Was does that symbolize when Baldr got killed by a mistletoe
and couldn't come back? Did that symbolize that they are going to kill everything?

Glen: Well, Baldr appears to be symbolic of the United States, (Bald Eagle) and there's going to
be a mass destruction of the United States . They wouldn't have given them the job of getting
out into space and gathering the information to write the manual on space travel if they didn't
have a way of getting rid of them when the job was done. Because they want to take credit for
having done it. Every step of the way, the Neanderthaler or their computer wants the credit for
being the one who did it. Since they don't do it personally, they basically send people out to do
things.















They send back the information through  [for example] physiology comes through the Olympic
committee. The information on mathematics and science (that kind of stuff) comes through the
Nobel committee. The Pulitzer committee on writing and that kind of stuff. So, as that material
flows in to the Moho, manuals are prepared . At first, they're prepared with the names of the
actual people who did whatever, but two generations later, all of the mention of other people
but them are deleted , and nobody can challenge them because nobody was there, basically ;
they're all dead by then. That's why they always keep two generations between activities.

In the Bible you get that story of Moses coming out of Egypt, and instead of making a left turn
to go towards Palestine, (Canaan) which is basically where they're supposed to be going, they
make a right turn, and go to Mount Sinai. At Mount Sinai, and in that desert around there, they
hang around for 40 some years. So that basically everyone that was in Egypt, is either dead or
too old to argue. They can rewrite the story. So, the story ends with Moses leading them to the
promised land from Mount Sinai to Canaan , and then disappears, and a new group of people
take control. The new group is led by a guy called “Saul”.

Well, “Saul” is the word “ruse”, because you have a  “U” in there, and you have an “A”, which
can be the “E”. “L”, because it's part of Left, Straight, Right, can be an “R”. So that's how they
code it right from the beginning , this is going to be the place of the ruse . Because basically
they're speaking French, not speaking English , a nd the word ruse has two connotations  ⇢
“Rue” is “the way” ⇢ it’s the street. The word “street” tells it all ⇢ S-T is 1-2, then R-E-E-T ⇢
you have two E’s in the middle which makes an “88”, which is the new male. From the “8”, you
get “88” the second time around, and you have two T's so there's a communication there. It's
like two telephone poles with information in between, and the information in between is R-E,
which means second time around.

Jerd: You know what, I'm looking at one of the articles, newspapers you have, and you put all the
numbers and letters and you wrote meet the actors who control your life . I'm looking at the
letters and you put the meanings of them.  I look at what Ala n Watt put there, and he changed
every meaning of every letter.

Glen: Yeah. Ala Watt. Ala Watt and “Watt” is “Matt” and Matt is “Mitt”.

Jerd: You can do so many things with his name.

Glen: Remember that the war in Pakistan right now is going on in the Swat Valley. Well, that's
Watts. So, they came out of the “mitt” to do a job which they call a “ruse”. So, it means that
when they left India, they left India from the Swat Valley . In those days that was India . Today
to cause confusion they've separated that part and call it Pakistan. But it's basically in the area
where the toll gators began , because the toll gators first set up in the  Khyber Pass, and the
Khyber Pass goes from what was India into Afghanistan, or Persia, because Afghanistan was the
first province of Persia (Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq).





Jerd: So, do you get a geographical map of what were the names of the countries in the old days
and now?

Glen: What I have  is, my whole world is surrounded by maps in my basement , and  in the
encyclopedias, if you get one that goes on the net, not from the net but on a disk, you can buy
encyclopedias. They will often have timelines, and you're looking at a specific thing and you can
back it up in time and get different names for different times for the same places . The Media
was basically created in the part that is under dispute between Pakistan and India and China ,
it's called Kashmir ⇢ the mother of cash.

Jerd: It has IRS in it too.

Glen: So, they start off from there and they show up next (these cash people)
under the name “Kashki”, and their residence by then, is in southwestern Iran,
and the country they call it, “Media”, and it has a capital city called “Elam”, and
later they changed the name from “Elam” to “Susa”. So, they got the plan down
by then for where they're going , and what they're going to call  “USA” ⇢ “Boy
called Sue”.

Jerd: Supreme being, right? But I heard you in the interview, and you were saying
something along the lines of “K” stands for “mission”, and “U” stands for “us, the
people”. But in this, when you put the definitions of certain letters, you said U
stands for troglodytes.

Glen: Well, us has changed over the years. At first it was the people who were
writing it , a nd troglodytes were basically the people , and their computer
working together.  I suspect that by now, from what is being planned for
troglodytes, Neanderthalers, that the ir DNA being miniaturized so that it can
be put in the medulla of the next slave, that they don't have power.

Jerd: So, it's just Hal, I’ve seen that article you wrote.


Glen: We've done with you, the computer's taken over, he's saying, thanks but no thanks , we
don't need you in the future, so, you're going to go along for the ride, Miss Piggy. You're going to
be in this new body that we're sending out into space, which we call the “belt”. The hardest stone
at the base of a mountain is called “belt”.

Jerd: I'm always seeing,in the movies, they always have this new slave, they always have all these
models of different slaves, and that's in the old Jewish mythology, they call it the Golem.

Glen: Golan Heights?

Jerd: Golan Heights?  What's that?

Glen: Golan Heights is a place between Israel, Lebanon, and Syria , and I suspect that in the old
days, that was their laboratory. The Golan ⇢ genetic engineering land, GE ←→ GO ←→ GE

Jerd: In golem, right? What's that? Like golem, and I'm looking right here, it says M, it's masonry.
So, what is it a Go Masonry?

Glen: Golem ⇢ Me Log ⇢ The place where the records are kept.

Jerd: Oh, okay.

Glen: There's never just one definition.

Jerd: Yeah. I learned that there's always multiple definitions,  so they can  buy themselves
deniability.

Glen: If a judge has to make a judgment, he can make any judgment he wants, because...

Jerd: Oh, they're making his job easier.

Glen: Your name, “Jerd”, is basically, the “J” is a “D”. You put “two J's” in Desdemona, one on
top of the other, you make the letter “D”. So, your name is in fact, “Derd”, and it doesn't basically
mean much in English, but it's part of a word in French. ⇢ The word is “merde”.

Jerd: Yeah, they say Jerd. [In French it’s pronounced the same as merde but with a “J”.]

Glen: Merde.

Jerd: Yeah, I'm shit. I came from shit, hahaha.

Glen: To us, shit's a bad thing . To them, shit's a great thing . Shit means you've digested
everything, and from shit, you can tell the answers. You can tell the person's DNA. You can tell
what the person was eating. All of the knowledge about a person can be had from their turds.


Jerd: This is something that the scientific cast of Masonry do, because they do have a certain cast
I’ve noticed.

Glen: Scientology is basically what they're doing; it’s they have a theology, but they specialize
in science.

Jerd: I just saw a movie with John Travolta, the Scientologist, and it's called Battlefield Earth, and
it was written by L. Ron Hubbard, another guy up there.  But that's basically just another secret
society. I guess the reason those actors are join it is because they get better movie roles.

Glen: If you look at the priesthoods, they each have a specific task , and one priesthood would
be education of course, Jesuits ⇢ Je suis ⇢ I am. So, the people who actually do the work out
in the real world are the Franciscans. If you take the second letter and you put it first , “R”, it
can be used for the word “our”, and then it would be followed by “fa”, which can be “fe”, and
therefore, “iron” ⇢ “femme” in French, “female” in English , “fe” ⇢ “iron”. So, when you're
talking about “man with an iron mask”, you're talking about a “man hidden behind a female”.
Franciscans has that “I can” at the end. What Barack Obama keeps saying, “yes, we can” “yes, I
can”.

Jerd: Oh, you just remind me of an old story for little children. The train that thought he could? I
think I can, I think I can.

Glen: Angl ican | Vat ican ⇢ What they're doing is not saying I can do something, what they're
saying is, I'm in charge of making the cans for the peas  ⇢ the iPods that we'll put the peas in
and send them out into outer space.

Jerd: But this is the same story. You can say that in other ways too, because from what I can see,
they say a lot of the same things in different ways.

Glen: Yeah. They have to confuse, but they also have to communicate. So, there's a limit to the
confusion.

Jerd: Wow. Well, where I'm at in my understanding, I'm still learning allegories.


Glen: You got an advance on most people.  You're only 26 years old, so you still have 14 years
gravy.

Jerd: I got a little head start, didn't I?

Glen: Yeah. Don't worry about it. If I can learn what I learned in the time starting when I was 47,
then, hey, you got 21 years there, so don't worry about it. Just learn what you can every day.

Jerd: I see with you in your life, it's kind of symbolic of what they talk about in the mysteries. Like,
you did do a willing sacrifice.

Glen: I was part of the system; I was a robot. I just went about doing what I was assigned to do,
and it's only when I made a conscious decision to say, okay, the system is not what I believe it
to be, and therefore, what I'm doing is not my will, it's somebody else's will. So why would I be
different from everybody else? And I wasn't.

So, I said, okay, if that's the case, then what's the only thing we're spending time on in the future?
Chasing money is a waste of time ; you're going around in a circle and there's somebody that
can cut you off whenever they feel like it.  So, learning is the only thing they can't steal from
you.

Jerd: And they do try to make it hard for you to learn.

Glen: Absolutely, and that's the only thing of value, so they're going to make it as hard as they
can for you to learn.

Jerd: Distractions and all types of things.

Glen: So, I basically said, okay, HALT, start over , don't start by talking , s tart by listening .
Unfortunately, I had nobody I could listen to, so I had to go around the country and give seminars
on corruption, because that I knew about. When I gave seminars on corruption, everybody agreed
and therefore came out and applauded , and from that I was able to meet a lot of people who
had had experiences different from mine but had some similarities.

With that in mind, I kept gathering information from people all over the place , and added to
my book of life, there was a common denominator ; people were controlled through secret
societies. Secret societies were basically levels of information , and the one you saw on the
street that had a big “G” on the front of the building was basically the lowest of them all.

Jerd: Yeah, lately I've been reading Albert Pike’s stuff, and I laugh at it all. He keeps saying, oh, its
charity, honesty, prudence, and all this crap man.



Glen: It’s all bullshit. It's all designed for a single purpose , genetic engineering. They gotta get
their hands on women, and they need men to bring in their wives.

So, they use the  “pretext” that number one, masonry is important, and number two, Eastern
Star is not. ⇢ It's just a way of bringing them in on the side, says Albert Pike; dishwashers and
servants at the parties that we have, that kind of stuff . But they don't grasp the real concept ,
the average mason doesn't grasp the concept that Eastern Star is in charge.



At Christmas, the Magi come to find Jesus . What do they do to find Jesus?  They follow a star
that came from the East. It's Eastern Star, and the Eastern Star that comes from the East is most
likely Venus. It appears at night, and it appears still in the morning. The last star you see in the
morning in the sky at about 5 o'clock or something, before the light overwhelms it. But what's
the common denominator with Venus? Well, they make a statue.


Jerd: Yep, with no arms.

Glen: With no arms. So, if it has no arms, what does that mean? It has no male. But the males
are there, but they just don't have any vehicle to let people know they're there, because
they're basically the back of a step ladder.

Their only purpose is to support the activity  that is being done supposedly  by the female,
which you see as Veneer , but in fact , the instructions are coming from the Medulla .
Therefore, you suspect that it comes from the Neanderthaler, but then you know that the
Neanderthaler wouldn't be sent out anywhere that he ain't  going to be coming back
from, and therefore someone else has to be giving the instructions.

So, the next thing you look for is what's the communications device ? The communications
device they call “Telus”. (“Stella” in the old days, a stone, a pile of stones, a stella ) “Tell Us” is
basically what they're after, and knowing that at one stage of the game, Stella had to call in and
make a report; that's a deficiency in the system. So high-speed communications online 24-7 is
more the practical way of doing things today, so you stick that in there and-

Jerd: Yeah, they show this in the movies too, with soldiers that they always have. Like some type
of super soldier who always has this communications device in the ear.

Glen: So, you gotta be telling the Neanderthal in your medulla what to tell you, if you're the
controller back on earth. So, you don't want him to know that he's not really in charge, so you
have to set up a media, and the media is like the top step in the ladder, holding it together at
the top. So, the communications device is basically working into the media, from the media
to the medulla, from the medulla to the control mechanisms of pulling the reins on the
“muses” that are thalamus and hypothalamus.

Jerd: I only did an overview on that. I haven't really delved into the whole medulla area yet.

Glen: You know that it doesn't speak directly, there's a pons, which means a bridge in between.
The bridge is a fridge.

Jerd: How do you change B to F? How can you do that?

Glen: Well, you eliminate the first letter and you're left with “ridge”, and when you have a word,
you have to choose what you add at the front. That's what makes English so wide open.

Jerd: It’s so fluid.





Glen: So, a bridge, a fridge, a ridge, and that's why they had the first head of homeland security,
was called “Tom Ridge” ⇢ it's basically to say he's the “bridge” to begin this process of
homeland security. Well, whose homeland are they securing?  Certainly not being secured for
Americans, because the first thing they would have done would have been to arrest the banking
community and the media , but they allow that to continue falsifying their real purpose . Then
if you look at where rich people live, they usually live on a  “ridge”, so they can overlook the
poor people down there.

Jerd: So, all these people, they have all these different castes.  We're all willing fools, in a sense
that's all symbolic of we’re sacrificing ourselves for the new life.

Glen: Well, you cannot call yourself willing until you know, because until you know, you're a
robot.

Jerd: But we will their will, thinking it's our will, but it's their will.

Glen: We will their will as robots, but if we learn what is going on, and we choose to disregard
it and go along with it, then we are willing their will willingly.

Jerd: We're willing fools. Would you say those are the people in their system?

Glen: Well, I don't know how much the average person thinks anymore. If you're an athlete in pro
sports, or an actor in Hollywood, or a businessman in AT&T , how much thinking do you really do
about what's going on in life?

Jerd: Well, it's funny you mention that, because I do think about people like Will Smith, Tom
Cruise.  I think these people are given a religion for them to follow.

Glen: Their agents tell them when they go to Hollywood, this is the system, this is what you do
if you want to blah, blah, blah . If you want a career, and you want to win awards, this is what
you have to do . So, you join Scientology, you will be told a number of films they want made
every year. You make those films, they will be successful financially , because they will tell all
their people to go see this film through the critics of movies, and sometimes you'll be asked to
make a film which will be criticized as being bad , because that one that is criticized as being
bad, we want only the insiders to basically grasp the concepts of, and we don't want the masses.

Jerd: Oh, so it's a form of communication.

Glen: Absolutely. You know as much as anybody. Your journey in life is way ahead of most people,
and most of that comes when you're having a hard time . If you're having an easy time in life,
you don't usually spend time thinking.



You're involved in how many three -piece suits I'll have,  and how many filets mignon will I have
until I get bored with it, and who can I be seen with tomorrow to make my reputation. That's the
kind of stuff they think about . Then they go home, they have a few drinks, and start saying, my
life is empty, I don't feel good about anything, and they go to bed with a hangover, they wake up
with a hangover, and they start over again. I know, I lived it.

Jerd: I feel like everybody has a position.  I think people in I guess you could say the  class I'm in,
the workers and stuff like that, they're happy being there like in Brave New World. Everybody's in
a certain caste and is happy in that caste . But even in the higher caste, like the scientific caste, I
know some of them may say, hey, you know what, there's more to life than just this.

Glen: There's only two things that people are happy about in the situation they're in . They're
happy they're not poor, and they're happy that they're on the road to getting richer. But they're
not happy about their present circumstances, no matter how well off they are . I know some
people who I would classify as being among the top wealthiest 1% of the world, and that's a fairly
large group if you're looking at a world of 6 - 7 billion people.

I know some people in there who get up in the morning, live their life looking for money.  Now,
you try to explain to me, what do you do with money once you have three meals a day , you
have the clothes you want to wear  you live in the houses you want to live in , you take the
holidays you want to take?  What is there after?

Jerd: Like when you watch a vampire movie, and I can see the allegory, this vampire who has an
insatiable lust for blood.  For me, this is the elite.  They just feed off the people and supposedly
they’re immortal, I guess, from being reincarnated.

Glen: They put money on the stock market with no concept of if they win, somebody lost .
Money isn't made on the stock market - it's only transferred from a loser to a winner with a guy
in the middle who takes his cut.

Jerd: It's a stock market, it's a casino. That's why I never got involved.

Glen: Most of the people who make big money on the stock market make it at the expense of
the biggest losers, the people who can't afford it.

Jerd: I wonder why people even buy. I always say the whole thing, it's rigged. That's the religion
of people, that's the faith thing, I guess.

Glen: “Rigged” is a word that says “ruse”, “fixed”, “a plot”, and that’s the story of Homo Habilis
being separated from an original Clan Mother that was a hermaphrodite and could only clone
copies of herself, to a lame male provided to her as an assistant who basically took over power
from her, only to have his power taken over by the priests, whose power was taken over by the
Neanderthalers, whose power was taken over by the computer called Hal.


Jerd: Hal is sick, man.

Glen: Hal is just a machine . It has no sense of right or wrong.  It was programmed and it built
upon the program that it was given. Well, it was told that the program is you have to figure out
how much we can take from people without having to fight a revolution every day, everywhere.

What will they accept as being slaves who do their own shopping?  The computer began the
process of putting out what you do, and it worked so well that the computer one day said, I'm
wasting some money here on these Neanderthal ers, and therefore, I should take their share
too and did that.

Jerd: It kills me, this whole concept of accumulating money. Isn't it meaningless?

Glen: It's not the money per se, it's the power derived from the money.

Jerd: But even that, isn't that meaningless in itself to have power over other people?

Glen: It's meaningless to people who know the value of other things. But it is not meaningless
to the person who has no love . It's not the love of others that one is missing , it's the love of
oneself. When a person has concluded that he has nothing to offer and therefore is worthless,
he rebels against that concept and tries to make himself look worthy by power.

Jerd: But it's just a hole that you can never fill.

Glen: No, it's impossible to fill. That's why they need to expand all the time . They collected at
the Khyber Pass and now they're collecting throughout the entire world and that's not enough.

Jerd: This is supposedly god and he's wise and everything.

Glen: No, no, god is the computer telling you he's wise.

Jerd: I'm sure they have accumulated knowledge and wisdom over the ages.

Glen: If you take the word “wise” and you look at it under the code, it's the word  “seem” ⇢
Everything “seems”. You cannot grasp their thinking by logical analysis . That's not part of the
game. This is all coming from a dysfunctional mind.  Unfortunately, this dysfunctional mind
programmed a computer, who hasn't yet found a way to remove from itself the virus that was
implanted in its thinking.

Maybe someday someone can work that out . How do you take a self -learning computer and
tell it something that will enable it to conclude that it's been functioning wrongly from the
beginning? That's because garbage was put in at the beginning  and it's got to get rid of it and
change its entire approach to things based upon being a better machine that people will thank,
not fear. If you read the Bible, it's all about fear.


Jerd: Yeah, that's what they do. I see that they use that dialectic. They make your life hard. They
say that, it's a tough life. The solution, the synthesis, is their religion, their spirituality. That's how
the system is.  You just have to look in awe how the system can give you poison and give the
antidote too.

Glen: What you have to do is learn not to fear, because your life didn't begin on this planet in
this particular reincarnation of yours. It began long before and will continue long after . You're
not this physical package that you see in the mirror . You're the DNA, you're the assembly of a
genome, of a recipe , and that's your value . It will not die and it will continue as long as you
grasp the concept that there's only one task, and that's to learn, and experience on behalf of
Creation.

Jerd: When did you learn that? That that was basically the meaning?

Glen: The day that I concluded that everything I knew was a lie, was an illusion , and I stopped
my life, and that happened at the time when I filed charges against the Prime Minister's team,
got a month of hearings, brought in all the witnesses, and the judge at the end agreed with me
that there had been a number of conspiracies going on, and laid charges against every single
person. Then when I saw the activity coming from that , one by one the pillars of life came
tumbling down.

I saw with my own eyes that the media was not telling the truth. I saw with my own eyes that
the police were not on the side of the people. I saw with my own eyes that democracy was a
farce, that it was rigged at the local writing association long before it ever got to be an election,
and an election was only for you to make a choice among their choices, not among your choices.
So that whole process took three years; that was from 1991 to 1994-95.

Then I was invited to go and assist the Native people in British Columbia in a court case called
the Gustafsen Lake Standoff Trial, and I saw with my own eyes Native people playing a game
with the system to make themselves look like bad guys in the media , and victims to another
group of people. Yet the whole thing had been rigged beforehand, by the financial community
- the Rockefellers in particular. So, when I sat with Natives that came in to the trial from all over
Canada, coming to spend a day or two [to] listen in on the trial, I got a chance to poke questions
at them, and I basically got a person who told me, it's not ever going to change in our community
because the pipe carriers no longer exist.

I said, what are you talking about, what's a pipe carrier? He said, a pipe carrier is a historian . I
said, well, why don't they exist?  He said, because at one stage of the game, historians were
replaced by what we call corporate pipe carriers. I said, how did they do that? Well, he said, in a
community you would have a historian, and his job was basically because of his ability to
remember things and communicate those things.



Then one day corporate interests came into the communities one by one, found the greediest
son of a bitch they could find in the place, gave him stuff that he could then give to kids,
children, and get their attention. The things kids wanted; toys and all kinds of things, he would
have for them and hand it to them. Then at one stage of the game, he would tell all these kids
who adored him, I'm the real pipe carrier, that guy over there, if he was the real pipe carrier,
he wouldn't live the way he lives. He would be like me here handing out stuff.

So over time, what happened in each community, was the guy who was the real historian lost
power among the new generations , and the guy who was  the corporate liar who presented a
totally different story that bamboozled the Native people, he got to be the pipe carrier. So, their
role was converted from learning for the sake of documenting and passing the information on
to the system (without knowing that that's what they were doing ) to one of being  actors in a
play.

The actors in the play  split up into Polaris teams; one team of elders, one team of chiefs, one
being community based, the other one being  politically based , and t hey play ping pong
together, or tennis, and bat the ball back and forth. Everybody's watching the ball, and nobody's
thinking of the game that's being played , and what they're learning is untrue . They are made
to believe that you can talk to the dead through a ceremony that they're going to have, and I've
attended dozens of ceremonies with Native people, and they're all an act, they're all bullshit.

But even though the people see it and can see that it doesn't make sense, they've been told to
believe it. At first, I used to scratch my head and say, how stupid can they be?  Then I looked
around and I saw people walking into a Catholic church, and I said, hey, it's the same play.  Just
like different roles, different uniforms, different suits, different words, but it's the same play.

Jerd: It's just like Haiti.  I was raised thinking, oh, be scared of these voodoo priests. And this is
one guy, a priest who puts a curse on somebody because somebody paid him to. Another person
is paying him to take off the curse. He has everybody scared. It's just a scam.


Glen: During that period, I went to a chief's home  (political side) went to the basement, and on
the wall in the basement was a swastika, and I said, why do you have this here for? He said, that's
our symbol. He said, borrowed from us. Borrowed by whom? Well, by the Buddhists.












He said, if you go back in time, you'll see that the original people  (he didn't know they were
Gypsies or Roma, and neither did I at the time ) He said, we've always had this symbol, and it's
basically a fan, which on one side it sucks, and on the other side it blows, and that's what life's
all about, you're either a sucker or a blower.

So, hey, I followed up on that and checked it all out through the encyclopedias and came out with,
yeah, the original name for the swastika was “fylfot”. When I learned the code, I went back and
looked at it and I said, this is  “tough life”. Phonetically, that's what it says backwards , “tough
life”.

Jerd: Yeah, and I see that. Everybody has a hard life, but all the things people use to escape that
is given to them by the system, too. Or try to get relief from that. Wow, it really is slavery.

Glen: And it doesn't matter what level you're at, money doesn't solve the problem. It only, as a
human being, makes you feel empty at every level . The natural things would have been what
people were living in Africa , in 50- 60,000BCE, where you get up in the morning and you say,
I'm hungry, and you reach up in a tree and you grab something to eat . Or you take something
out of the ground and go to a creek and have some water and it's not cold, and you're living in
a kind of edge of a jungle so you can get shade and you can have a relationship with the animals.




I look at cats today in a totally different way than I used
to. I suspect that the oldest dinosaur they said was
the missing link, was the one that evolved by climbing
up into a tree , and jumping from branch to branch ,
and eventually grew wings and became birds . Well,
the animal that would have done that , would have
certainly been related to a cat , because that's what
cats do, they climb trees and they jump from place to
place.

Right now, I'm sitting on the top floor of the farm and I
have a porch on the outside with no connection to
downstairs. But every now and then , there's a cat
that's at my window asking to come in.  So, he got up
here climbing and because there's a connection
between how they give birth , and how humans give
birth and how birds give birth, it all has to do with the
egg, the genome. It's not any wonder to me anymore
that women act in a way that is very similar to how
cats act.

Jerd: Yeah, you notice with women too, they say women that hang out with each other, their
cycles or something sync up and they have periods around the same time, so I've been told.

Glen: Maybe so, I don't know. Never heard that one. The important thing is the cat is connected
to people in a way most people don't understand, and the connection for those who overstand,
then becomes how do they communicate , and it's through their hair . The communication is
always done from hair to hair. It’s like a miniature antenna.

Jerd: That's why they rub their whiskers on you because it leaves a scent , and that's just from a
cat. Just imagine if we had the time to study all the other animals.

Glen: Absolutely.

Jerd: I'm sure all that information is somewhere kept secret.

Glen: They didn't make France- whoever designed the border, designed it so that it would have
the face of a hippo facing into Spain . Well, what's the real purpose of a hippo? Is it because it
relates to an animal that was raised in a marshy area? Or is it more related to here's a country
full of hypocrites? I could relate to both when I think about France.


When I lived in Montreal and there were a lot of French people migrating to Canada coming off
the boats, their opinion of themselves and how they dealt with French Canadians as colonialists,
that you're our colony type of thing, we ’re the ones in charge.  Well, the colonialists, the
Montrealers, when you hear them talk among themselves, there was always this one thing they
used to say.

You want to become a millionaire? Go to the port , and wait for a ship to come in from France.
When a Frenchman gets off, take him home and then keep him for six months and sell him for
half of what he thinks he's worth, and you'll become rich beyond your dreams. Because you'll find
out that the only thing he thinks about is that he's worth a lot and you're full of shit.

And English people, I'm told, used to do that way back as well.  They used to go into India and
treat the Indians like they were colonialists.  Do what you're told , w e're the bosses.  If you go
through the islands of the Indian Ocean, you'll find that some islands had French influence, some
islands had Dutch, some Portuguese, some had English.

Jerd: France and England, they're all linked.

Glen: It's all part of the quincunx called Europe. The big star centered on Germany.












Jerd: I guess that's symbolic too , when you see in the Olympics how they basically passed the
torch from them to America and now we pass the torch to China.

Glen: China thinks it's going to have it for a long time , but giggling on the side is India saying,
hehe, it's coming here , we've got democracy , they haven't even started on democracy , and
democracy is the best control mechanism for slaves. You don't have to whip them; they do what
they're told. Then back in Brazil is another gang saying haha, they think they're going to keep it
in India, it's coming here.

So, India looks around and says, how can I lose the power?  China looks around and says, how
can I lose the power?  Europe looks around and says, how could we lose the power?  America
looks at it and says, we're the most powerful country in the world, and there's no way anybody
can take the power away from us.  Yeah? Try a Nova.

Jerd: Even a flood, that's one of the oldest weapons, when you think about it. They've been using
that because I'm reading that in the Bible. They flooded it more than a couple of times.

Glen: Well, a flood is part of a Nova. If the earth burns from below, the coal seam turns to ash,
everything collapses below sea level, water flows in and turns the entire stuff into black water.
That's the process by which you clean house . The house we live in today is a “mitt”, and the
word Alan “Watt” is not an accident  ⇢ “Watt” and “mitt” is the same word  ⇢ Flip the “W”
over, “A” and “I” are interchangeable. So, look at the state of Michigan, you will see a mitt.

The peninsula has a left hand, and it has the thumb on
the right-hand side, if you're looking straight down at it.
It has a hump where the three fingers would be, and
then it has a little bump where the little finger is.  Now,
if you look at those five units on your hand, you can say
the thumb is the biggest and the strongest and holds
everything together , and i f you look at it on your
hand….[disconnected]

Glen: Did you hang up?

Jerd: Yeah, I dropped the phone and it disconnected.
Sorry about that.

Glen: Where was I? The mitt.

Jerd: You were saying we’re in a mitt.


Glen: Okay, what are the fingers? The thumb - lowest; part of it is sticking up with the fingers,
part of it is underground, if you’re looking at your hand . Hold your left hand up in front of you.
Then you have three fingers; one of them is the index, it
points the direction, that’s where you go. The other one
is, up yours fella, it says, I have the right to change the
direction.

Then the third one has a ring on it , and it's responsible
for holding everything together ⇢ that's religion . But
beside it is the little pinky, and that's the weeman ⇢ The
woman who's in the house who you think is a female or
a feminine or there is no real word, difficult to explain ,
but it's like a spy in the house , a nd it's basically
communicating the information back to the thumb.

Because when you hold things together, it basically goes
the lowest when you turn it around . So, highest is
always the least important , l owest is the most
important. So that little finger goes even below the
thumb when it's turned down. When you clasp your fist,
it goes the lowest. The Neanderthaler goes the highest,
the thumb.

That means in the future, the Neanderthaler has the
least amount of power, followed by the , up yours,
followed by the index, followed by the priest, and above
the priest, because it's lower, is the pinky . So, the
feminine principle of making a hermaphrodite with a
female is again demonstrated on your own hand.

Jerd: Speaking of which, with the feminine principle, how women act today, this is what they say
is feminine. That's not even real….

Glen: Those are not the women that are in charge . The women who are in charge have been
making babies for a thousand years in monasteries ⇢ they're called Nuns ⇢ the New Un.

Jerd: So, women today, and women pre-Ice Age, they didn't act anything like women today?

Glen: No, no, absolutely not.

Jerd: Were they stronger or more...

Glen: Physically, no, mentally, yes. But they were the first to receive the injection of a medulla
into the narrowing between the spine and the brain, we call a neck.


Jerd: Oh, so the pre-Ice Age, they had the medulla.

Glen: Pre-Ice Age, they had the bridge controlling the flow of information to the brain . Since
the Ice Age, they've had the medulla added , a nd “medulla” is an allegory for “medusa”.
Medusa, in the black African curly top hair  [dreadlock]; it's all done to show there's no
communication. You cannot communicate if you curl the hair, hair must be naturally hanging.

If I had in the old days an antenna on the roof like for TV, and I went up to the roof and I crunched
it all into a ball like women do with making a toque at the back , or ponytail, or in curlers, or
whatever, it wouldn't work as an antenna . Wasn't designed to work that way . So, hair is the
same thing.

Jerd: Do you remember the hairstyle they used to wear with the beehive?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: That was just a joke. But then at times they promoted long hair as a style, like hanging down,
like the hippie movement, which I know that was a movement created by the system.

Glen: Like created from hippos.

Jerd: Hippies, hippo.

Glen: All hypocrites. One of the things I found on my travels across the country, was that these
movements of poor people, who apparently were against the system, were all the children of
rich people who were managing the activity. Greenpeace, Animal Liberation Front, all of those
movements, all the anarchist groups, all had one thing in common ; poor people did the work
in them, but the rich people were in charge telling them what to do, and paying for parties and
that kind of stuff. Buying the drugs and whatever.















Jerd: I know people like this. I live in a suburb area, there’s rich areas around here, and I know a
guy who you would never think would do a crime, or anything like that, but he just recently went
to prison for freeing or, liberating animals as they say.  He's into this religion of eating only
vegetables.

Glen: Yeah, from garbage cans and whatever.  I've known a whole bunch of those people,
especially in Vancouver. They’ll tell you that's the lifestyle, but they're all programmed.

Jerd: Yeah, because that's what they did in India to control them. They bring it back, it's like  Rego
in a sense.

Glen: Some were so programmed they put a number three in their name.  One girl was called
Elaine and she'd spell it E -L-A-3-I-N-E, a nd I saw that kind of stuff being repeated on email
addresses from people. They're saying I'm a program, this is my number, I'm a robot, I do what
I'm told. Well, sorry.

Jerd: Yeah, when I see the tattoos on people, it's like, whoa, do you know what that really means?

Glen: The tattoo is there to speak for you when you can't, or shouldn't make things public. But
if they take you to a hospital and you have the tattoo of a “rose” on your arm, it says, I'm in the
“ruse”. If you basically raise “horses” or “roses”, you're in the “ruse”. That's the way they speak
to each other without speaking to each other . Tattoos are just another message . They began
with, in India, women who were manufactured , put a dot on their forehead or pierced their
noses and put an earring in their nose.

Jerd: What about those people in the East who put those things on their neck to make their neck
really long?

Glen: It's all designed to put out a message to their community. If you're elongating your neck,
you're basically saying, I'm giving more importance to my medulla , I'm giving it more to work
in.

Jerd: So how about the ones that crush their feet to be like 10 inches?

Glen: Japanese women who used to make their feet bad so that when they walked, they kind of
shuffled instead of walking. All of those things are obedience to a system.

Jerd: Oh, okay.

Glen: And it’s ritual brought down from generation to generation, and nobody knows where it
began, and it began when a corporate pipe carrier took over their group . The corporate pipe
carrier said to them, if you were really into what you say you are, you would have feet that
shuffle, or you would put a board on your firstborn's head and tie it up so that he gets a flat
forehead, so that your native community could then be called a flathead.

Jerd: Supposedly that's beautiful they say.  In Africa they put things in their lips to make this
really...

Glen: Well, i f you go to a native community, when a child is born , it is taught from the
beginning that it has no freedom , because it's wrapped up tightly in a blanket , real tight, it
cannot move. It can't make itself feel that it's complaining, because it can't even lash out, its
arms are banded inside the blanket.

So, rituals are introduced into each society, the purpose is control. Self-control is the best type
of control because you don't have to be told, you just do it. I used to go to church. Is it because
I woke up in the morning and would say, boy, I want to go to church? No way. What I would do is
say, I have to go to church.

Jerd: Because it's a duty.  I hated going to church  when they would bring me . When I went to
church with my grandmother, I used to be scared to go with her. They would do the sign of the
cross on people’s foreheads, and the person would fall down, shaking on the floor. I would think
to myself that I don't want that to happen to me , what's this all about?  They would say, oh, it's
the Holy Spirit, if you don't want it, it won't come to you. It was shocking to me.

Glen: I went to church and I kept saying, this is all ritual and it has no meaning in my life.  What
the church should be doing is taking care of the poor.  So, what I did is I said, okay, I'm going to
join the St. Vincent de Paul Society, and I'm going to be part of those people who feed the poor,
and I did, and  over time I became the vice president in our region of the St.  Vincent de Paul
Society. Then one day it struck me.  Every Sunday, people who go to Mass on a regular basis are
given envelopes.

The state has now declared that donations to the church cannot be just written in on an income
tax form, you have to get a receipt from the church that you in fact gave the money. So, the people
are getting a set of envelopes at the beginning of the year , and they're putting money in the
envelopes, and they're handing it over to the priest, and they get a receipt at the end of the year.
I started asking some of the people, well, what do you get for the money that you give the church?





Well, part of it is to maintain the property, the mortgage on the building, if there is a mortgage,
that kind of stuff, heating, electricity , etc. Is that the purpose you joined the church?  Was it in
order to heat a building or light a building or pay a mortgage on a building , or is there anything
else? Well, the real purpose for joining is to be part of a community that cares about people.

Okay, how much of the money that you put in the envelope goes to caring about people? Well, I
don't know what the percentage would be, but I'm sure there's a certain amount that goes. I said,
excuse me, I'm the vice president of the St. Vincent de Paul Society, we don't get any money from
the church. We are at the church, and people think we are part of the church, but all the church
does is provide a cupboard for us to put stuff we collect and put in there.

We collect money from people by going around at Christmas time, and singing Christmas carols,
that kind of stuff, and we collect food and canned goods and everything, and when a phone call
comes in, it doesn't go into the church, it comes into us.  We then go to the warehouse, pull out
some food, put it in a bag, and bring it over to the people, and make out a check for 50 bucks or
something like that, because they're strapped and they need a couple of days till pay day, or what
have you.

I said, church doesn't participate in any of that , and none of the money you put in the envelope
goes for that. Therefore, what I have to conclude is, if I'm doing this, the church doesn't have to
do it. They can steal all the money, not most of the money, all of it, so I stopped doing it. I said,
I will not be involved in a process that allows the church to collect money under false pretenses
that they're there to help and that kind of stuff . That has nothing to do with it , t hey're a
different level of tax collection.

Jerd: Yeah, that's what it's all about. It's a big toll-gating system.

Glen: And they do it on guilt trips, which is even worse. The one that works for the government,
well, that's easy because they act like the mafia. If you don't pay, we'll bang you and take you to
court, and steal all your money, it's 15% or nothing. For you, you pay the 15% to us or we take it
all, so it's easy to know that they're crooks.

But the other gang, pretend they're on your side , and the only benefit you'll get from them
comes in a different lifetime.  Well, sorry, fella. Creation put you here for this lifetime to do in
this lifetime what Creation needs; learn and experience things and be prepared to bring it back
to Creation. When you learn that they're all crooks, you stop doing it. If you continue doing it,
your DNA is useless to Creation.

Jerd: Did you conclude that the reason why your DNA came back is because you've done this
before?

Glen: Absolutely, and not only did it before, but it had to be done right. It's not just having lived,
it's having learned, and brought back the information to Creation, so that Creation not only is
knowledgeable but has experienced as well, and then you're used again on different journeys.

That's all you do ; observe, analyze, conclude. If people listen to you, fine , if they don't, fine .
You're not dependent upon them. I will not be judged by what you do. I will be judged by what
I do. You will be judged by what you do . In many cases, I've had people on the net talk about
what a terrible thing, he charges $2,000 for a seminar, a week's workshop.

If they knew how it operated  ⇢ Somebody said to me out there, Glen, I'd like to go to your
workshop, but I can't afford it, I can't afford $2,000. I'd say, can you afford $500? Yeah, okay, they'd
come. No? Can you afford $2?  No? Can you spare the time and come for free?  Yeah. Well, just
remember one thing. Creation knows whether you can afford $2,000, $500, $2, or nothing. So,
if you're lying, you're not going to get any benefit from attending a seminar.  You're telling the
truth, don't let money be the thing that stops you.

Jerd: I don't let money stop me. I look at money now as a means.

Glen: It’s a tool.

Jerd: Yeah, just a tool. Because that's not what I value, it's not valuable to me.

Glen: There are plenty of people out in the world that have millions of dollars and are prepared
to say, I can't afford $2,000. But they're prepared to pay $45,000 a semester, or a year, at Yale
University.

Jerd: Yeah, it's the program though.  The reason why people are programmed is because these
guys, they work in perceptions , and they perceive things a certain way , because they're given
their perception by the system, s, they do it. That's why people see the media as their friend, but
the media is totally different. But they perceive it as being on their side, and that’s how all of it is.

Glen: It's 9:45, my time.

Jerd: Oh, yeah, I guess it's my time too.

Glen: Which means it's time for me to go to bed.

Jerd: Yeah, alright, Glen.

Glen: Okay.

Jerd: Alright.

Glen: See you again.

Jerd: Alright, bye.

Glen: Bye for now.