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Purgatory and Paradise - Sept 12, 2018

Glen: Hey.

Jerd: Hey Glen.

Glen: You got water coming?

Jerd: It's been raining for the last few days over here. But I don't think it rained today. It was just
a little cloudy.

Glen: They're talking about a curve in the hurricane taking it to South Carolina and Georgia.

Jerd: That's what I was going to ask you. I was going to ask you is there a reason why this hurricane
is named after the capital city that was the birthplace of the Italian Renaissance and where the
Medici family came from? Because I was looking that up and finding all these links to that name.

Glen: Well, they're getting waves out in the ocean in the 80-foot range. They're getting warnings
of a storm surge at 13 feet, so…

Jerd: Well, I got a weather alert application on my phone and it said that they should be expecting
40 inches of rain or something like that. It says Florence's rain may lead to potentially catastrophic
flooding. Coastal flooding from persistent onshore winds may aggravate inland flooding.  This is
due to Florence's forecast slow movement for several days.

Glen: Imagine what the circumstances would be if the hurricane chases people inland. They're all
in cars or in motels , and then another surge comes not from the ocean side , but from the land
side like the Loo at the Soo is going to do.

Jerd: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Glen: You get caught in the middle between the two.

Jerd: Yeah, you're pinned down.

Glen: Yeah. No place to go.

Jerd: That's one scenario. Just the other day it was I guess the Jewish New Year.  They have a
different calendar. It was Rosh Hashanah , and 9-11 yesterday. So, it would be like a traditional
thing I guess.

Glen: Are you alone or you got company online here?



Jerd: It’s just me. I usually have Danea on but he's working. I didn’t want to bother him.

Glen: Well, I, last night got messages from the Cell saying, you've got to be direct, because they're
not listening, and if they're not listening , then the chances of survival are not very good . But
worse, is showing up at the at purgatory and being told, I didn't know, why weren't we warned?
We've been trying to warn them since at least the year 2000.

Jerd: 18 years. That's what stuck with me last time. It made me think about my life. Because I am
in a different situation from most people, is that I have the opportunity to do something.  I have
I've been given an opportunity by you. I've been on the farm to learn about this, and I have to do
something.

Glen: A lot of people come to the farm, and say, ah nah, don't believe that, nah, nah, don't believe
that. Well, what can I do ? I can't tie them down, and say, smarten up. But the Cell said, if they
only understood the difference between being in purgatory as opposed to being in paradise, and
the decision is made always by the Pineal Court. Being in purgatory and being in paradise is
about the same lifestyle. However, in purgatory, you'd never meet anyone you know. No mother,
father, wife, children, cousins, teachers; nobody you ever met, when you see while in purgatory.
The only way out of purgatory is to get someone on earth who's been left behind , to do
something to warn the people about what will happen later , and if they don't , you stay in
purgatory. If they do you move on to paradise.

Jerd: That's difficult though because people, like you just said before, they'll say, oh, I don't believe
that. So, they're going to be dealing with that same situation  from their perspective so that's a
challenge. You said previously that the Cell, they've looked all over, and you were the only person
that they found that considered, I guess, what they were saying.

Glen: Well, they called it, earned it. Earned contact.

Jerd: Well from what I know, every once in a while, they'll be people who will contact me by email,
and there's an audience out there who are listening to this material. But I don't know if they have
contacted you or not.

Glen: Some have, however, because they don't warn me ahead of time, and they call without any
ID, the Cell won't answer the phone.

Jerd: I have to probably get that message out to these people. I know I told the people in Scotland,
guys over there. They seem really interested…

Glen: They have to give you their phone number, and then call on that phone number within a
matter of a day or two, because I'll lose the papers; too many things. Preferably you call and say,
this guy will call tomorrow.



Jerd: Okay.

Glen: That that lady will call within a day or so.

Jerd: Alright I could do that. I did get a couple phone numbers from guys in Scotland, and they've
been wanting to talk to you.

Glen: I gotta know ahead of time when they're going to call, and I gotta be watching for the phone
number. I got stuff to do alone here.

Jerd: I'm not sure; how many animals do you have left? Do you even have any left on the farm?

Glen: I have a new goat. Four goats now. But we used to have 18. No more chickens. We used
to have a hundred.

Jerd: No more chickens. Wow man.

Glen: No more sheep. No more pigs. All we're down to is four goats and lots of cats.

Jerd: How much would that cost if somebody were to buy some livestock from another farmer?

Glen: I can't take care of them. Don't have enough hands. Don't have enough hours especially
in wintertime. Can't do all of that alone, and it's not like I can invite somebody to stay. No house
to stay in. No food.

Jerd: Well, the guys in Scotland, I think they understand that they couldn't have residence at your
place. But they can probably stay somewhere close by. We've even discussed getting some type
of RV, or trailer, and parking it on your property.

Glen: Well, if they have an RV, they can drive to town for meals or whatever.

Jerd: Yeah. Buy you a pizza, hehe.

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: So, what's your diet like? You just make and eat soup a lot?

Glen: Most of my diet is tortilla as bread, and on there, either cooked ham in a can, or cooked
beef in a can , or cooked fish in a can , and then on top, a pickled egg. I can buy pickled eggs in
boxes of 12 jars. There's about nine eggs in a jar.  Every time I make a n equivalent of a Mexican
sandwich with a tortilla, I put the meat down first, or fish. Then I put pickled egg, chopped up on
top. That's what I eat most of. I have soups and stuff like that.


But until this summer, I didn't have a little gas stove for picnicking with. You can't use that in the
wintertime because it freezes butane. Doesn't flow in temperatures lower than freezing zero. 32
in your language.

Jerd: With the canned food I remember I brought a whole bunch for you.  You gave it all to the
cats. I eat a lot of tuna fish too, pretty regularly

Glen: I prefer salmon to tuna.

Jerd: Yeah, I love salmon too. Expensive though. It's good.

Glen: I have these little cans of what's called Paris Pâté. In French it's Paris pate, and sardines. The
sardines I have, come in a can , clover leaf, and there are between 16 and 22 sardines in a can.
They're little ones compared to most sardines you see in stores are Brunswick or something like
that, where they call them sardines , but only three or four fit in a can.  Whereas the clover leaf
has a minimum of 16, maximum 22 fish.

Jerd: You can eat that as a full meal?

Glen: Yeah, I eat that for lunch usually. I try to eat fish in the morning, and meat in the afternoon.
A lot of canned fruit peaches from Greece, is where they come from, when I get them here, and
fruit cocktail. It seems to be a pretty balanced diet. However, every two weeks or so I get to go to
town check the mail and stuff like that and then I'll have bacon and eggs for breakfast or Chinese
food for lunch depending on what time I'm there.

Jerd: I have been doing this for months now ; I just have a salad in the morning with three eggs
hard-boiled eggs, and some salad dressing.

Glen: Sounds like it'll be nourishing anyways.

Jerd:  I try to have a balanced diet; nutrition and stuff.

Glen: My biggest worry is my neighbors are so stubborn that if they haven't read it in the paper,
or seen it on TV, or what have you, they believe the rumors set out by the government years ago,
when I initially wrote to the government , and said I'm applying for a disability pension.  My
disability is political.  I tell the truth , and that means I have a disability . They responded by
saying, you have a disability , but it's mental , heh. For protesting on Parliament Hill, you are
classified as mentally ill. When you believe in democracy, and you do what democracy says, and
it ends up accusing bureaucrats or politicians, their response is to change the rules.





Whatever rule you use to get the charges laid against them, they are told by the media, like Globe
and Mail newspaper mostly, to change the rules, so that things like you did, would not happen
again. So, what I have done was use the law that is called private prosecutions under the
democratic system. If you have evidence, you don't need the permission of a prosecutor to lay
charges. As long as once you lay your charges , there are witnesses that can be called by the
court, and those witnesses will confirm what you're saying , then the judge , or justice of the
peace, can lay charges against the accused, and that's what I did. So immediately after they were
charged in June 1991, by September the Premier of Ontario, Bob Rae, and the Prime Minister,
Brian Mulroney, had met together, and said they had to change the rules.

So as to eliminate the possibility of private prosecutions, they said, even if it's a private person
who comes , rather than a policeman who comes , you have to get permission from the
prosecutor to move forward . Well, of course, forget it, because the reason you're going the
private prosecution way , is because the prosecutor won't do his job . So immediately the
newspapers come out, and they say you got to change the rules. I think I've told you this before,
but my lawyer who was a high -ranking staff sergeant in the RCMP , and retired, and became a
lawyer, and then was working for a law firm to get his practice started. They have a word for that
I forget what it is.

Jerd: Is it pro bono, or pre bono, or something like that?

Glen: No, pro bono means they work for the client free of charge.

Jerd: Oh, okay.

Glen: But this is training, and once you graduate, you have to spend a year with an existing law
firm. So, he incorporated our Institute , and by incorporating the Institute , he was familiar with
who I was. Then he had to attend a class, and in the class, one of the discussions that the teacher
brought up, was private prosecutions have to change, or you end up dealing with crazy people
like Glen Kealey. So, my lawyer, Richard Jordan, got up in the classroom, and he said, maybe you
didn't know this, but I was Glen Kealey's lawyer for his incorporation recently.

He said, you have to explain to me how you come to the conclusion that Kealey is crazy. Because
he laid charges? Is that why you think he's crazy? Or if you believe that he is crazy, and we accept
that for now that you believe he's crazy, what do you call the judge? The judge is the one who
made the decision to charge the people based upon the evidence , and she's the top Justice of
the Peace in Eastern Ontario. So, if Kealey is crazy and the judge accepts crazy people then you
got a point, she's crazy too.

But if he's not crazy , and after three weeks of hearing evidence from the RCMP , who are not
allowed to lay charges the way they want to, then you have to believe Kealey is not crazy. But
what difference did that make to anybody? They don't listen, they don't care. If the system says,
change the law, change the law. So, democracy is theoretic; it's a theory based upon illusion .

Until you broach the problem directly, you don't know that. But once you get involved directly,
and you find out how they act, you get to know democracy is only a concept, not a reality.

Jerd: It s eems like most of these forms of running things , from democracy to communism, to
fascism, they're not what they say they are.

Glen: No, they're not. They are all supportive in some stage of development of monarchs , and
in a later stage, monarchs become cosmetic leaders, and the bureaucrats take over. In a country
like Canada the deputy minister is the manager of the staff , and the staff are the bureaucrats .
The bureaucrats run the government no matter what the minister , or the cabinet , or the
president says.

Doesn't matter what the leaders say. They run it the way they want it, and they have done that
since 1789 . The French Revolution replaced the monarchs with the bureaucrats . The
bureaucrats were good for a while , but then as they started to feel the power that they had ,
they started using it, and finally abusing it. In my lifetime, being 76 years old now, I can almost
see the line that changed from one to the other, being in 1972. Policemen who used to be called...

Jerd: Coppers...hello?

Glen: Yeah, you there?

Jerd: Yeah, you sound kind of far away.

Glen: Sorry, what did you say they called police?

Jerd: I said coppers.

Glen: Coppers, yeah. What do they call them today in Canada?  It's the name of the one dollar
coin. Instead of penny, like a copper, they are one dollar coins ; the name is loonies. They had a
list recently, in Ontario, of all the civil servants that make over a hundred thousand dollars a year,
and most of the top guys were policemen . The very top are the coroners . The coroners are
allowed to lie about how somebody died.

Jerd: You were mentioning before with the Deputy Minister, and you mentioned the word “staff”
and immediately in my head I thought about the “rod”, and I thought about the letters A-F-T, like
aft in in the word raft. So, that's an important word, I guess.

Glen: Yeah. A staff is linked to a n electromagnetic deflector; a lightning rod, it moves lightning
from the direction it wants to go , to another place. A rod is also called a staff , and that's what
happens in government . The deputy ministers use their staff to redirect towards a non -
obtrusive place, the problems that they have. Not to solve the problem for the citizens of the
country, but to solve the problems that might point to them as the cause.



Jerd: I guess that's why they make no common sense.

Glen: No common sense.

Jerd: It makes sense in terms of them keeping their career.

Glen: They have one thing in mind , and that's a journey that begins with being hired, getting
raises, promotions, and retiring with the big pension early. That's their path, and anything that
gets in the way of that, is in trouble, heh.

Jerd: Yep.

Glen: And of course, democracy gets in the way, so forget democracy.

Jerd: Demo crazy right?

Glen: It doesn't matter how you try to help most people.  They are good people with a bad
program, and therefore, don't want to listen to something they have not been pre-programmed
with. They will not consider that there's another story. That is what really gets them when they
hit the wall , and they die, and the part of them that survives , ends up in purgatory. Which is
basically saying, you're going to have to cleanse (purge) all of the conservatives . Not in the
political sense, but in the lifestyle sense . The conservative people are those who don't want
change.

Jerd: Yep. I've noticed that.

Glen: If you don't change when you're wrong, you're heading for a long long time in purgatory.
A lot of people don't even get a chance to resolve the problem . The lucky ones come across a
situation, where like the Cell, they are allowed to try to repair some of the damages that are
going on, in order to gain the right to move from purgatory to paradise . In paradise you have
access to everyone you know if you want.

Jerd: That sounds like a fun place to be, to meet people you know. Now when you meet people,
as far as family members, co-workers, are you meeting people from just this life or previous lives?

Glen: I have not gone into any of those details with them, so I can't answer that question. Because
when you're born more than once , you're not allowed to remember the past , in the sense of
you having the immediate knowledge. It has to be regained while you're here.

Jerd: Yeah, that's the understanding I have with past lives and genetic memory. It's like something
has to jog it.



Glen: Breastfeeding appears to be the best way to pass on knowledge from mother to child.

Jerd: That's why they have the Similac to stop that?

Glen: They all get hell for breastfeeding in public, and they all get told they gotta buy artificial
milk, rather than breastfeed. But that's where the knowledge comes from . It always comes in
the form of a plate; it's what you ingest. The breast is equipped with a nipple sitting on top of
a plate. The plate sends like a magnetic field, up to the child’s face and head, and memory from
the mother is passed on that way. So, it's a feeding not only for the body's survival, but for the
brain to function. If you don't allow that to happen, of course, your bad programming evolves.

Jerd: Oh, by the way, Danea's on. Surprise guest Danea.

Glen: Hi Danea.

Danea: Hey hey.

Glen: So, not at work?

Danea: I'm at work. I'm in the bush. I can call.

Glen: Yeah, it's one advantage about having a cell phone, is doesn't matter where you happen to
be.

Jerd: So, everything that’s around us, is all about promoting this bad programming , it seems,
right?

Glen: Yeah. We're not to blame for being programmed because we have nothing to do with it .
However, once we find out that that's a possibility, we have to, in fact, be able to change our
activities, our actions in a manner that would negate the power of the program. But if we don't
want to believe that we don't have the entire truth , then it becomes impossible to change a
program that you believe.

Jerd: A lot of the times when I hear people even talking around these topics , a string of words
that I always hear is, we don't know, and it's like they try to include me in their conclusion. They
say, we don't know that. I'll say, well, you don't know, or you don't want to know.

Glen: What you have to do , is gather up all of the evidence you get , and if you don't want to
know, you don't want to gather up the evidence that you get , and you keep away from any
discussion that might give you a different opinion.

Danea: Yep.


Jerd: T hey have these opinions , or these views are given to them by somebody else because
they're programmed, and they identify with them because they adopt it as their own. So, if you
say something that goes contrary to that, that ego, that defense mechanism starts to play a role.

Danea: Also, it's an age thing too, because someone who's 45 years old thinking, wow, I spent my
whole life living in this lie. If someone was already like a digger and could kind of see those things
throughout their life, and maybe they'll convert over, but a lot of people don't want to . It's that
ego again; they don't want to admit that I've been wrong for 50 years, and your little 30 year old
butt is going to tell me I'm wrong? You haven’t seen anything.

Glen: Absolutely. I had that discussion with a Minister of Public Works, Roch LaSalle, and I said to
him, you Mr. LaSalle are the biggest holder of real estate in Canada.  You manage buildings that
number in the thousands.  Now I come along and I tell you Mr. LaSalle, the buildings you're
managing, are warehouses for people to come in with their equipment and do work. That's going
to disappear. What you're going to have to do in the future, is build buildings that supply the
mechanisms for individuals to walk in, just them, without any computers, or communications, or
printers, or what-have-you, and they're going to rent a space that allows them access to your new
intelligent building. He looked at me, and he said something to the effect , that you mean to say
I've spent 60 years learning about buildings, and now they won't exist? I said, absolutely right. He
said, I don't want to hear any more.

Jerd: Well, there's different approaches, I guess, when you're dealing with people.  I know your
approach would probably be, because you're older, you just come straightforward. I've also tried
being more tacit, just kind of not as direct, because I know if I just come direct …there's going to
be a point where I have to be direct, but at first, I just throw ideas out there, and if they want to
think about that, it's up to them.

Glen: You got to remember, Jerd, that I stopped thinking, program-wise, in my 40s, and I opened
up my mind to other people's opinions . I went and traveled across the country , speaking to
hundreds of thousands of people , and as I gathered the information from others , (and that
includes Parliament Hill where 10,000 people came a day type of thing ) as I went through the
system I said , I'm running out of time . I'm knowledgeable of the fact , and I'm able to
communicate that information to people who would listen, but they don't want to. I'm going to
meetings where there are 400, 500 people, or 60 or 80 people, and I should be telling people in
the thousands. But the ones who control my access to those people are the media , and they,
and they alone , have discussed among themselves a plan to deny me access to a broader
audience. I can tell the minute I walk into a newspaper, and they hear my name at the front door,
don't want to know, don't want to hear. I've been living on this farm for 18 years.








Now you're not going to tell me that a local newspaper decides on their own , not to cover a
guy who's moved in from the nation's capital, having spent three years on Parliament Hill, and
succeeded in charging the top three maladies in the country ; the Commissioner, the Assistant
Commissioner, and Deputy Commissioner of the RCMP, with failing to do their job, aiding and
abetting criminal politicians, charging the criminal senators, cabinet ministers, and everything,
and he has moved into our little locality. We don't want to talk to him. We don't want to report
on him.

How did that happen in a little community away from the center of power , where all of this
stuff was made public? Three days later, a newspaper said, just watch, they're all talking to Glen
Kealey today, but in two or three days , they'll forget all about him . That was a message from
the top media people to all the reporters . We don't want you knocking on the editor or
publisher’s door with a story on Keal ey. You have two or three days , that's it, and a fter that,
nothing. I went across the country, and was asked to speak on open line shows, and the minute I
got there to do the show, the people had been told that they shouldn't have asked me to come,
but they had made announcements , so they had to let me on , and afterwards, that was it , no
more.

That was in big cities like Winnipeg , or Vancouver, and little towns in the bush.  Didn't matter,
always the same thing. In 18 years I've been on this farm, having caused the Canadian dollar to
fall by a cent and interest rates to rise by 1% , having charged politicians at the highest levels ,
and policemen at the highest levels , and having the Premier and the Prime Minister get
together in order to figure out a way to stop me. Not one reporter has come here. One guy in a
newspaper in town was told by Jennifer  that she had some documents that she wanted to give
him as a message on his telephone. One guy sent his wife to get the documents, and she asked
Jennifer, is it true that you were born in Canada?

How would she get into any knowledge of any of that unless a discussion had occurred? That's
what's happening in democracy , is it's not working and it cannot work as long as this story
continues that they're not to talk to me . It comes from the top down , and in Canada the top
newspapers on all business men's desk in the morning , called the Globe and Mail . The second
one, the left-leaning one belonging to the Chinese, is called the Toronto Star. None of them have
allowed their reporters to speak to me , since the charges were laid, and I left Parliament Hill.
None of them. No radio stations, no TV stations, no local newspapers.

I'm thinking probably not even schools would allow students in journalism to talk to me.  It's a
crime that deserves, and will get punishment, and the punishment they will get is eternal. Not
a week in jail. Is you denied billions of people the knowledge they needed in order to make wise
decisions. They went through a wasted life because the media would not allow certain things
to be made public . It was lying by  “omission” rather than lying by  “co-mission”. That's where
we're at.



Jerd: Today it's a little different but not too different. Before it was just these main media outlets,
like the Toronto Star. But now with the internet, things have kind of changed over the years. Now
there's these little subset media outlets, and I suspect a lot of them are owned by the mainstream.

Glen: The minute you say something on the net which the system
disagrees with, you get dog piled. I can see a monastery with a room with
novices sitting at computers , and are told , these are the names , the
minute you see them, you write in and disagree with what they're saying.
Whether they be priests or nuns , (mostly nuns, I would imagine) or staff
of the media who will call in to say thumbs down thumbs down thumbs
down. Of course,  the people who don't post anything but just read
everything say, ah this guy's not worth talking to , look at all the thumbs
down.

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: So, there is no freedom.  I basically stopped printing the newspaper (the Kealey paper )
because I said , I can do it on the net and reach a lot more people.  Wrong, you can reach a lot
more idiots.

Jerd: Yeah exactly.

Glen: You can reach a lot more people who've been paid to deny what you're saying, and make
it appear as if you're the stupid one.

Jerd: When I see that the people who are supposedly the thinkers of the world ; these are
authorized people. The things they talk about are just on the surface . Not even scratching the
surface.

Glen: Irrelevant.

Jerd: Irrelevant. That's the word. Yet, these people are exalted.

Glen: Yeah, and they are the ones who will pay the eternal price. Whereas, the people they've
programmed, and turned into parrots, those people will get an intermediate type of sentence.
But the ones who have stolen people's lives by affecting thought in a manner that people will
not think for themselves anymore, these are the ones who will get the eternal penalties.

Jerd: Yeah, because you're locking people in a cage that they can't see.

Glen: Well gentlemen, I gotta go.

Jerd: Alright Glen.


Danea: Alright Glen.

Glen: We'll talk to you again, Danea and Jerd.

Jerd: Alright. I'll call you again.

Glen: By the way, is it Danea or Danny?

Danea: You can call me Danny, but it's Danea.

Glen: Okay.

Jerd: It's Danea but you call him Danny so...

Danea: That's actually my middle name.

Glen: Okay. Talk to you.

Jerd: Alright.

Danea: Alright.

Glen: Bye Jerd. Bye Danea.

Jerd: Bye Glen.

Danea: Bye.