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Phases of Life - Feb 10, 2010

Glen: YeaJerd.

Jerd: Hehe. What’s going on?

Glen: We're just sitting around watching Washington Capitals and Montreal Canadians

Jerd: What's that two teams?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: Wow. I didn't think you were into that type of stuff.

Glen: I'm more into watching genetically engineered people.

Jerd: Hahaha.

Glen: They have a few of those in hockey. Practically, all sports have genetically engineered
people.

Jerd: Oh Yeah, when you look at a follow the basketball players , you can see that they're
engineered, when you look at their parents, and all of their family. The numbers are interesting,
the really popular ones.

Glen: Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan…

Jerd: Michael Jordan 23 which is 32.  They like using that number.

Glen: Four. Number eight.

Jerd: All their hallmark numbers.

Glen:  Now the Washington Capitals have a Russian player by the name of Ovechkin. If anybody's
been made to play hockey, it's him.

Jerd: Did you ever look into his family?

Glen: Except, you can't get much information out of Russia.

Jerd: Why is that, you think?


Glen: Just watch him play, and he plays like a machine . Never basically, backs down in front of
anything, can score goals while flipping upside down , backwards, left to right, up and down, in
the air. An amazing machine. It's like Tiger when he's on.

Jerd: I do something similar. Pieces of information like this that you learn, you just add to that
unfinished symphony, right?

Glen: Yeah. There may be guys that would be worth having, as part of the 13. Because they might
have some information in their genetic makeup that can fill holes, especially tiger.

Jerd: Just guessing, do you think his genetic makeup is a lot older?

Glen: Well, it's very task-specific. It may mean that he's much more different than the average
person who basically does a little bit of everything. I don't know if Tiger Woods could do anything
but golf.

Jerd: The knowledge that's in that DNA , is probably golf concentrated.  So, how do you think he
would be able to contribute to the 13?

Glen:  Well, it's just because he's so different , that you never know what piece you might be
missing.

Jerd: I don’t know. A guy like that, is so watched. His whole life is controlled.

Glen: Maybe up to last year, he would never consider such a thing. But since then, I have a feeling
that he's going to end up deciding, that there are more important things in life, than batting a ball
around. Maybe I'm overly hopeful, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Jerd: For example, the impression a lot of people got from Alan Watt was that he was basically a
defeatist type of person. People say that about me . They think that I'm defeatist , because I say
everything's rigged. It may seem like that, at the beginning when people talk to me . I guess you
have to realize the enormity of the problem to actually get the real solution.

Glen: There's a big difference between being a defeatist, and being a realist. I think people who
search, if they do it correctly, and don't depend on the system to offer them solutions, will in the
end, become realists. That's bothersome to a whole bunch of people , when they see somebody
who says it as it is. Doesn't play the game. There's no political bent to what they say; they just say
what they believe.

Jerd: Well, part of the thinking in the Western world, is there always has to be a happy ending. I
think that’s media indoctrination. They use always some type of retributive justice. I don't think
in reality or ultimate realit y, works like that. I guess there is a truth in that . I don't want to say
Karmic Law or anything, but when you do something that's unbeneficial , you may mistake it as
something beneficial, but in the end it’s…


Glen: I would not tend to believe in the concept of Karma , meaning you have to pay a price for
the things you did wrong in the past. I don't really think that that's what's intended…

Jerd: I think karmic law is used for some type of control . What I'm saying , is you may see
something that’s instant gratification, you benefited in the short term, but in the long term…

Glen: I think it's, you have to learn, and the things you learned the last time, you don't need to
learn over this time . The things you didn't learn the last time , is what you have basically to
concentrate on. That's as close to karma, as I can get . The word suggests that a mother drives
the car. There may be something in that; Ma’s Car. Mother Superior, I'm sure, has something to
do with it, but I don't think driving the car is what she does.

Jerd: I think there's something to that word, Abyss; AB -Y- Super Slave. Why is there “Y”
between the Super Slave and the…?

Glen: Shape Shifter. The two “S's” are for Shape-Shifting. The “Y” has been shape-shifted, and the
beginning of the building of a “Y” is one-two. Down the abyss you go, if you do it wrong, so you
can be recombined.

Jerd: I think the worst punishment that somebody could have, is not being able to learn.

Glen: I think every minute of every day, not spent trying to learn something, is a waste of time .
Doesn't matter what you're doing, it matters how you do it, and how you're trying to learn what
you’re doing, do it better, doing differently, do it fast or, do it slow, or whatever. In any event, each
person has to come to their own conclusion  on all of that stuff , and for a lot of people , the
conclusion will be different. That's the beauty of it, is that there are many approaches to doing
things.




The more people adapt a way of doing things, the more choices a beginner has to pick a route,
that is more in line with their own personality. After all, social engineering has happened before
you start thinking . So, you have to live with what you have , and work your way out of it , or
improve upon it at least.

Jerd: I feel like I have to work my way out of my environment.

Glen: Out of what you were put into.

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: You look at your situation , and being stuck in a place like New York is really Inconvenient .
But it's not the worst.

Jerd: I do learn living in New York. Danny and I say this all the time, when we talk to other people,
say, from other parts of the U.S…

Glen: There’s a lot of things that come to you there.

Jerd: Yeah, because I get to meet all types of different people. A lot of people here are smart. This
environment got me smarter. I noticed that if you live in say, a mid-western town over here in the
U.S., you can be naive about certain things.

Glen: Imagine if you were born smart in Somali a, and you  live in a camp , in a desert , with no
lights. Nothing to challenge you. No job, no work of any kind to challenge you as a person. That
would be like hell to me. At least when you're in a place where you're not involved, but things are
happening, you can learn from the sidelines . Then when your chance comes , you can make the
best of it.

You've had different options . New York is of course , a different place than most places in the
world. Because of the population that has come in from all over the world , the options , the
different ways of looking at things are all there. Within a few miles of where you happen to be at
any time. But when you get to be my age, that's not where you get the information anymore .
That's a place for those people who are working their way up to 40.

Jerd: Through certain avenues I learned and eventually I can't learn anymore from that, and I have
to do something different.

Glen: Guys l ike you are a little further ahead than most when it comes to learning , so you
shouldn't have to wait to be 40, if you've come to some conclusions before then. Gotta remember
you start dying at 27.

Jerd: What a way to look at it man. Is that a realist attitude?


Glen: Well, just look at the human body. How they g row and get stronger and more active and
more energy and everything, up until 27. From that point on, the body itself becomes part of the
restrictions you live with. Your mind grows, your body drags behind.

Jerd:  How do you think it was physically for original people? You think they had these restrictions?

Glen: Well because they lived outdoors and did more exercise, I would imagine the body was in
in better shape than most people who live in cities . But also, the dangers were greater, so you
could balance that off by, if you break an arm , who fixes it? You have a toothache how can you
get beyond that?

Jerd: Part of the reason why people get like all types of cavities is because of all the refined sugar.

Glen: M ore likely teeth breaking in conditions other than urban areas would have been the
problem. You got a broken tooth, it hurts. Nobody around to fix it. Change the diet because of it.
All of that can have an impact.

Jerd: I heard Washington had all wooden teeth.

Glen: What are you doing? What are you physically doing when you wake up in the morning and
say another day has begun?

Jerd: Sometimes I wake up, and I'll say okay, let me read this book or something. What I do usually
revolves around like my job . Usually, the night before I'm up late talking  to different people on
the phone, or reading, or on the computer. It's not really much I could do in this environment.

Glen:  You work around beer a lot. Does that mean you get to finish all the empties?

Jerd: I have to put away people's trash all day. I get kind of nasty Glen. It's turning me to a nasty
person. It's hard for me to blackout things because my senses are scanning everything. I t's so
routine that you can predict what people are going to say to you and people. I'm walking through
a rerun and it runs its toll on my mind . Time running out for me , and the people around me
basically bending over, and taking it, not caring.

Then I deal with attitudes , egos with my manager; he'll say, oh you read all this stuff , you don't
know anything. You just read what other people say in these books . You haven't done what I
done, I’ve climbed mountains I went across deserts, I did that. He's always using this argument
with me, and I don't argue. Okay, you’ve climbed mountains or whatever.

Glen: You’ve climbed a mountain; you’ve lived a few days or a few months of your life. If you read
in the same period of time , four or five books, you've studied four or five people's lives . It's not
comparable; it's totally different activity. A person who put somebody down because they do one
thing rather than another really doesn't grasp the concept of, thank goodness nobody ever said
we all have to be the same.


Jerd: Yeah, he puts me down a lot.

Glen: Imagine if everyone was a king, where everyone was a garbage picker. Thank goodness that
some people want to be other things.

Jerd: He’ll say to me, what do you have? What do you do? You have no social life. You're still living
at home. You don't have anything it. What do you just read, that’s all you do?

Glen: It’s a task that somebody has to do, and it’s a task that somebody likes to do.

Jerd: He'll get mad at me when I say, I hate this job. I hate what I'm doing. This is just slavery. He
lives in a world where it’s respectable if you work a thousand hours; what a man should do.

Glen: Is that your boss, you’re talking about?

Jerd: Yeah. Most of the time I don’t say anything to him. I just come in because I know this is
somebody I would never hang out with.

Glen: Remember that any boss is just a person who hires people to be an extension of himself.
He's not looking for something different. He's looking for himself.

Jerd: No matter how much work that I do , he'll always come down on me. It's like it’s not good
enough for him. That's why I never even break my neck. I do my job, and I do the task that I have
to do. But he wants me to do it enthusiastically.

Glen: Make your life his.

Jerd: And I'm thinking, no, you're crazy. He actually has been my blog. He said, I saw that stuff on
your blog, and you're this far away from Jim Jones ; you’re a cult. It’s like that time Tom told me
somebody told him that they thought he was insane. Hehe, I’ve gotten that too. People think I’m
crazy.

Glen: Just remember that in history, after they die , most of the people that are looked up to ,
were looked upon as being nuts, while they were living in their world. Then the world catches
up to them, and they start looking better and better every day to people who were lagging 20
years behind, or 50 years behind.

Jerd: You know why? It’s like Jonathan Livingston Seagull. He's just ahead of the fashion , as he
put it. The author in another book, also said when people don't understand you, they make you
a god or devil, and you're neither, you’re just ahead.



Glen: Phases of life, the experiences you get, allows you to make better choices, as you go along,
or worse choices, and end up suffering because of it. There's no such thing as wrong or right, it's
just different.

Jerd: That's where people beat themselves up in life, thinking they made the wrong choices. But
really, they were…

Glen: Look at people who've been in jail, like Mandela and those people. When they were in jail,
most people would have looked at them as criminals. Today, they adore them.

Jerd: What was the deal with Mandela ? Because obviously, I can see that he's works for the
system, but with the whole time he was in jail, was that was part of his agreement with them?

Glen: Brainwashing occurs in jail. When you take control of a person's life, you limit his ability to
move around , and leave when he wants , come when he wants , and that sets the stage .
Depending on how much they want to use you, they will either ignore you, or abuse you. A guy
like Mandela, I would presume , may have entered jail with certain view of life . But under the
domination of the system for more than six years, is what it takes.

After that, he was in jail for a long time , much more than six years . He would basically, because
he's a politician , by nature he would he would bend to please along the way . At the end , the
system benefits from the new man , much more than he does . He does as well , physically and
temporarily, and instant gratification wise, but the system benefits more.

Jerd: Some people that work for them , I’ve noticed they keep around for a very long time . For
example, Arthur C. Clark, this guy lived until he was 90. I was wondering why would they keep
him alive so long?

Glen: Well, they have to have heroes for people. They have to make people work. 90% of the
people fall into the category that you would call middle, and they're just basically living from pay-
to-pay, existing. Every now and then, they get a perk, like they win the right to have a mortgage,
or payments on a car. Never can they basically feel while they're young, that they own things,
because of anything they did . Things were either given to them by the system , or they were
allowed to become debtors.


Jerd: The movie, The Brotherhood of the Bell, illustrated that pretty well. How they just give them
things. But when you look at guys like say, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Hitler, etc., these guys are
basically time bombs, that they put out there, knowing that they're going to explode.

They let them explode , and then shut them down . Is that what they do with these  types of
people? Because when you look at Adolf Hitler,  you can see that he was funded, and guided by
the system. T hen they just pull the rug from under him , and said, okay, we don’t need you
anymore.

Glen: They create fear, guys like Stalin. Fear is a powerful controlling factor. Much more powerful
than love. So, at times the system decides to go there the fear way. But most of the time, the 90%
of the people in the middle, they just do what they're told, and never get to do what they want
to do. While at the same time the biggest fear is falling below the poverty line, and their biggest
hope is becoming instantly wealthy.

So, hey, if you can escape that whole thing , and begin to do the things you want to do , then
yeah, that's different, and the system really hates you when you're doing what you want to do.
They'll try to use everybody. Even though you may think you're escaping you always have to be
on guard that you're not being used by the system.

Jerd: I'm a lot wiser now , and when I look at certain women, or most women, and I see them
differently from how did years ago. For example, when I saw a pretty girl, I would chase after them
but now I realize it's a trap.

Glen: Well, don’t cut yourself off completely.

Jerd: Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm just not going after every woman that I see. I’m looking at the
type of person that they are.

Glen: You can have relationships with women without falling into the trap of marriage. That's
the trap for them and for you.

Jerd: But they’re the ones that want that. Not all of them though.

Glen: Yeah, because they used to have the power, and they were put in a position of no power;
living in a bag in Afghanistan . So, they would like to have some of the power back . If there are
those people still left, if they're not all remade and programmed. You always have to give every
person a chance to show who they are.

Jerd: I do, but it's hard for me to learn because they don’t know what I'm looking for. I’m going
off of experiences that I had in the past.



Glen: Well, I'm 70 years old, was married twice, live with a woman long enough to be married for
third one…

Jerd: Well, you have had different experiences than me Glen, hehe.

Glen: Had all of those experiences, and I’m happier than I've ever been, because I'm not married,
but I would still enjoy the company of women.

Jerd: You're not bitter at all, right?

Glen: No, not at all. I think with two out of the three , I spent four years, and that was the right
amount of time. The other one was the first one, and we had a family, and I hung around for 25
years. That was too long, but there were commitments, and guilt trips, and obligations, and what
have you. But I don't think that after the four years, that I was the cause of anything, or my wife
was the cause of anything. It's just normal that the time expires, and you move on. Accept that’s
normal in our society.

Jerd: But some people refuse to believe that. They’ll think that you just want to sleep with other
people, and be selfish.

Glen: That's life. You have to live parts of it, and make your own decisions, as you're going through.
What's good for you , is not necessarily good or right for someone else , but what's good for
someone else is not good or right for you. So, you've been given a set of attributes, skills, talents,
and it's up to you to find out what those are , and maximize that . You will. You have enough
intelligence, common-sense, smarts, whatever, and you're young enough. You have the time, if
they don't kill us all before then. Then you won't have to worry about it, you get to skip this one.

Jerd: I had another nightmare for the second time. I've been working on this passport thing, but
in the dream, I was in water. There was water everywhere, and somehow, I saw a floating garbage
can in the water, and I was paddling.

Glen: We are in the Age of Aquarius.

Jerd: But I remember what you said, it’s not a good thing for anybody to panic.

Glen: I look at it this way, if we are in the Age of Aquarius , we have a task assigned to us as a
population of the world . That's to be water bearers . So, better to be carrying a can of water to
the goats, than sitting in a can on top of water , floating around. We're basically doing the task
assigned to this generation , and making sure that cans get filled up with water , and they get
lugged over , and that we don't swear , just because we put a can of water down , and it
immediately kicks it over, hehe. Dumps it on the ground , and y ou have to go get another one .
Think of it, somebody did it for you when you were a kid.



Jerd: That’s why when I look at my mother, I'm really appreciative.  Even though I get nagged at
for a lot of things, but I appreciate the time that she took to nurture me and stuff.

Glen: There was a time when there was no other option. If she wasn't going to do it, it wouldn't
get done. You have to be thankful that you got through that period, in one piece.

Jerd: My mom could be really patient with a lot of things . For example, how s he's patient with
my father. There are things that I see that he does , that I don't think I c ould have the patience
with. Because I just think of all the hell that he's put me through my since I was younger . It's
because of the way he was raised , and he's just passing on this crap to me. My mom, she still
deals with the things…

Glen: You gotta remember though that there is a big difference between living your life , and
your parents living theirs. When our parents were alive there was no reason to believe that the
world wouldn't live forever; continue on forever. But in our age, it's hard to believe that we'll
make it to tomorrow morning. The instruments of disaster are there in front of us every day.

Jerd: That's why I think to myself, why me? Why in my lifetime right now…

Glen: Because they needed you Jerd. Think of it that way.

Jerd: Yeah, I have thought of that.

Glen: That’s why we’re here. They needed us. They may not like us, but they needed us. In any
event, I'm gonna leave you now. I gotta go back to my company.

Jerd: Alright, enjoy watching your genetically modified sports players.

Glen: I got to keep an eye on this guy , Ovechkin. Because I'm trying to figure out how he sees
behind his head . He seems to be able to do things without ever looking in that direction . That
might be a helpful hint for me later on.

Jerd: Well, how you break down his name? Ovechkin, what does that mean?

Glen: Well, he has “Che” in his name, which means you can expect him to be a guerrilla; guerrilla
fighter.

Jerd: Like Che Guevara?

Glen: You have to expect that he has it in two directions . He has a E-C-H, and he has it in C-H-I.
He's very much a person who's burning the candle at both ends. I want to see how it affects him.
But beyond that, he seems to be able to see in both directions at the same time . It may not just
be a physical attribute. He may have something in his head that might be useful to us in the long
run. So, I'll speak to you again, bye.


Jerd: Okay, alright.