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Lessons to be Learned - May 2009

Glen: Hello.

Jerd: Hey, Glen.

Glen: Hey, how's it going?

Jerd: Learn something new every day.

Glen: Yeah? What’s that?

Jerd: My friend he rents a little room out , and in the backyard they have a chicken coop with
ducks, and I remember you saying about the chickens.  As soon as I go up to the coop , the
chickens all run up to the gate. They’re the first ones,  but the ducks, they just sit there.

Glen: They just sit there. They’re lazy ducks.

Jerd: Hehe. So, I already have an idea that you can learn  a lot from just looking at  the animals
and stuff.

Glen: Yeah, they teach you the most important lessons , a nd of course they're not all just
ducks, or chickens, or animals.  Each one has a personality, just like people.

Jerd: My other friend has a chicken coop in his backyard, and he said that there was one when it
was born, the other ones tried to kill it.  He took it and when it grew older, it ended being the
strongest one out of everybody.

Glen: Right.

Jerd: And it was the leader.

Glen: That happens often.

Jerd: Oh really? What does that mean?

Glen: Well, it's lessons to be learned by the week , that make them stronger. It's a little bit like
if you run into a big guy , six foot five , 280 pounds, he never really had to fight for anything ,
people just gave him stuff. So, he grows up to be a bully , but can't back it up with anything .
Whereas, skinny little runt , hehe, had to fight for everything , every step of the way , so that
when he grows up, he can handle any situation.

Jerd:  Yeah, that's how that one chicken is.  He's the one that will come up to the gate , and i t’s
not scared of people like the other ones.  So, that’s pretty interesting.

Glen: It's all social engineering . We come into the world with genetic engineering , but then
the social part takes over, it’s a combination of both  that create who we are. That's why you
cannot clone a human being , in the sense that it would be exactly like the one before .
Because the one before had lived certain social experiences that the second one may not .
Therefore, they cannot be the same , even though physically they might be carbon copies of
each other.

Jerd: Even the thinking process would be different?

Glen: Yeah, b ecause it’s the experiences . Your intuition would be the same , because it's not
something which is programmed in this life from the spine . But what is programmed in the
brain is basically an opening of each compartment of the brain according to the experiences
that you live.

Jerd: Is intuition linked to the what psychology talks about when they divide the mind into the
subconscious unconscious?

Glen: No

Jerd: So, that's a whole other different thing?

Glen: What you're talking about is id, ego, and super ego.

Jerd: I've been curious about that super ego. Is this all linked to the medulla?

Glen:  Yeah, there's “the real you ”, and there's “the you” that you project into the world ,
because you've learned that the world expects certain things, that they have conventions that
you must abide by . So therefore, even though that may not be you , you learn to project that
into the world . Then there's “the medulla ⇢ the cop”, that basically says, this is what I want
you to do ⇠⇢ this is not what I want you to do . But I'll reinforce what I want you to do by
tugging on your reins.

Jerd: One guy when I talk to him, and I guess because I'm younger, and he doesn't want to hear
it, he'll try to always  make me look wrong . I know I have I have an ego , and I always try to be
aware of that control mechanism, because it can make you do stupid things.

Glen: Yeah. It can make you depressed, or it can make you angry.  All of which, can get you in
trouble. It can make you turn to alcohol, or drugs, for escape.

Jerd: I remember you mentioning in a video you that an egg has about 25,000 instructions.






Glen: Yeah, per human being. Even though there is a total of over 100,000 instructions, to make
a human being , you need about 25,000 . Most animals have something like 90% are the same
instructions, but the differences are what makes us who we are, not the similarities. So, we may
have a lot of similarities with a fly , but we're totally different in  function and appearance . But
most of the instructions that we have in us, are basically recessive instructions.

Things that were useful in the past, or things that will be useful in the future. There may be an
instruction on how to grow gills, so that you could operate at equally as well in water as you do
on land - air. That's like the pod; we're like peas in a pod , and the pod that surrounds us, must
be able to deal with the conditions in the environment in which we live. While the things on the
inside (breathing, blood flow, all of those things) are pretty well standard in all animals.

Jerd: So, by chance these recessive genes can come to the surface.  I remember seeing  on the
Guinness World Record type of thing, they had these two brothers that had hair all over their
face.

Glen: It's not by chance , it's by design . The design is minuscule , like this film about the South -
African couple, white supremacists.

Jerd: Oh, yeah. Skin (2008).

Glen: Yeah, who had a black daughter , and t hey
discovered that it was because both parents carried the
same recessive gene , that t hat recessive gene became
visible in that child.

Jerd: So, we all have recessive genes.

Glen: But each one can be very particular.

Jerd: Oh, so theirs happened to be that same…

Glen: It may even had been the same person way back, who passed it on.
Jerd: Oh, wow. That’s interesting. Now, the slaves that they make, they make
them…

Glen: From scratch. The term they use for the ones made in the lab , are
“crypt”. While the ones made by procreation for four generations thereafter ,
are “blood”. So, that's why they made “mummies”.

Jerd: These people that are made from scratch, are they world leaders?




Glen:  Not necessarily. One of the most important person to be made , would have been a
woman that would be handed over to a neighboring king as a bride, and since they made it ,
they could make it that although she was not living with them , (the makers) but was living
with the neighboring king, her loyalty would still be to the makers. So, she would basically live
with the other person but act as a spy within that person's household, and report that activity
back to where she came from.

Jerd: She would be like a prostitute, type of thing?



Glen: Yeah, well, in that kind of situation what you had was like  harems. So, the king would
basically have 25, 50, 100, women in a harem, that he wanted to reserve for himself. When he
felt like having sex , he would call one up , she would come lie down on the bed , and he would
screw her, then he would pat her on the bum and say , thank you and goodbye , and she’d go
back to the harem. But if one struck his fancy, because she was better at sex than the others ,
then he might decide to marry that person.

Jerd: That would be the spy or geisha.

Glen: That would be the queen , and not only would she be there to spy , but she would be
there to influence his thinking , and in the event of his death, she could even be in charge . So,
it became a very important tool for someone who wanted to control to have.


Jerd: Would you say Cleopatra was someone like that?
Glen: Well, Cleopatra was an Egyptian, the last Pharaoh, and she was a female, which was not a
very ordinary thing to happen . In the world of Pharaohs, it was a matria l line that passed on
power, s o it wasn't the man , but the mothers could not be Pharaoh. It was the person they
married in the religion of Baal, that then would allow that Pharaoh to rule as basically a warrior
lord, while she ran the household.  If the husband died, then it would again, wait for the woman
who was in line to marry somebody before there was a new Pharaoh.

In the story of Akhenaten, it begins with Akhenaten is born , most likely through genetic
engineering. He has a defect, his father doesn't want him around, and a priest from the genetic
engineering laboratory is assigned to take Akhenaten  [whose name was not that at the time ,
was Thutmose IV] to take him out of Egypt , as far as Syria in a place called Hurri, and keep him
out of the sight of the Pharaoh. Now the priest was married himself, and he had daughters, of
which one was Nefertiti. As the first Thutmose the father passed away, there was an order given
by the priesthood to go get Akhenaten back Into Egypt.

So, the priest, his wife and his family, take Akhenaten back to Egypt and he enters in there, and
it is described as  his wife is Nefertiti . The priest had kind of arranged all of that beforehand ,
that he would have power on the side overlooking this activity. So, Nefertiti supposedly has six
daughters by Akhenaten (in all likelihood, it didn't happen that way, she probably didn't have
any by him, but had six daughters by genetic engineering means) and then she disappears. So,
there you have Akhenaten with his six daughters and his mother who was now a widow, and all
of a sudden, his mother becomes pregnant.


Jerd: Oh, and they thought that he was screwing his mother.
Glen: So, they believed him to be having incest.  But in all likelihood, she was just having
another baby through the usual process of genetic engineering, now that her priest was back
with Akhenaten.

Jerd: Didn’t they get kicked out?

Glen: Well, at one stage, he proclaimed a new religion, and that religion would have only one
god. It pissed off the priesthood , so, at one stage of the game , they used the excuse that he
had incest with his mother twice , impeached him, and t old him to get the hell out . But that
was only a trick planned up front , so that they would have an excuse for taking all of the
books and materials that they had brought to Egypt  to start up the Giza Plateau , and take it
out to bring it back to the university which was at Sinai, run by the Judeans.

So, in order to hide the real story, they said that they were slaves, and that they were in fact,
going to a promised land. But when they crossed the Nile, instead of turning left, which would
take them to Canaan, they turned right, which took them to Sinai, and they stayed at Sinai for
40 years . ⇢ That meant that most of the people who had , in fact,  left Egypt to go with
Akhenaten, whose name was now Moses , would have died during those 40 years . The
average lifespan was 35 to 50.

Then it's the children of these people , who are taken by Moses to Canaan, and Moses
disappears, and the new king Saul takes over. Well, Saul is the first king of Israel, but of course,
you know that number one is never important  ⇢ it's cosmetic and only number two . So, you
have to wait for David , who takes over as number two to really establish the kingdom of
Israel. But the other thing you have to keep in mind , is that the word “Saul”, in the code ,
converts to “ruse”.

Jerd: How does it convert to ruse?

Glen: Well, you've got the letter “U” there. ⇢ You've got the letter “S”. What you don't have, is
an “R”, but an “L” can be an “R”, because Left, Right, and Straight. You don't have an “E”, but
the “A” can be an “E”.

Jerd: That's why “A” and “E”(Æ)  were connected?

Glen: Yeah, put together.

Jerd:  So, when they talk about vowels , a, e, i, o, u, and sometimes “y”, are those letters
interchangeable?

Glen: Yeah, it's because they were not part of the writings given to ordinary people . The
vowels were only known by the rabbis.


Jerd:  Yeah, in the Hebrew language how they  pronounce words. That reminds of that word,
Jehovah.

Glen: Yahweh.

Jerd: That was the secret word that that they couldn't pronounce?

Glen: Yeah, because they didn't know the vowels. Of course, the priests, they've been playing
a game throughout all of this , because they're not really priests of Israel . They were taken in
586 to Iran [Babylon whatever you want to call it, Iran Iraq, Mede, Media] and reprogrammed
for 49 years, until 537 BC, into Zoroastrianism.

Jerd:  Yeah, they were led by a Zorobabel.


Glen: Yeah, so they are really Zoroastrians , who basically go by the term “Judaism”, but
Judaism is a play on the word “Judean”, which has the word “dean” in there.

Jerd: Where can I learn more about these Judean people?

Glen: Well, they're Jordanians today, and they were Pakistanis before Pakistan existed . They
came from India , and that part of India is now Pakistan . They came from the Swat Valley ,
India, which is now Pakistan. It's where their base is, and in Arabic, “the base” is “Al-Qaeda”.

Jerd: So, whenever you see this word “dean” in the word, like “Chaldean”…

Glen: It refers to two things ; knowledge or ancient knowledge, because in a university, the
guy that has most knowledge is usually the dean of a department, and it's linked to dinosaur
⇢ old ⇢ dino. ⇢ Dean Martin, they used to call him Dino.

Jerd: So, with these females, you said that their program is to security and sovereignty, so once
they have security and sovereignty, what's the next step for them?

Glen: Well, nobody ever feels they have what they're looking for, when it involves security or
sovereignty, b ecause sovereignty means you rule something, and you always want to rule
over a bigger space . That's why they started with the clan and now they want to rule the
universe. Do you know anybody who has a billion dollars and says, oh, that's enough, I'm gonna
go sit on the beach?

Jerd: I'm looking at people like Oprah.  This
lady has to be…

Glen: Of course,  she is. Nobody earns that
kind of money ; it’s given  to her . She was
appointed. She's Harpo Marx.

















Jerd: Yeah, Harpocrates. I read in the encyclopedia that they had a temple or something.

Glen: She’s just a manufactured person to handle a specific task that involved politics without
being directly in politics . Because politicians have a bad reputation , so you put a lady like
Oprah on TV, and you make her tell people which books to read , who to love and who not to
love, a nd especially you got to love this guy who's going to come and be the first black
president.

Jerd: Oh, yeah.

Glen: Nobody can come out of Chicago and be just a nice guy . Chicago has a process for
appointing top-ranking politicians, and you have to be the biggest crooks. The only one you
don't steal from is the Godfather's clan.

Jerd: Isn’t the particle accelerator over there in Chicago as well? CERN?

Glen: Yeah, well in Chicago, it's called Fermi. It’s spelled with an “i”, instead of an “e” at the
end. In French the word for “farm”, is “ferme”.

Jerd: Doesn’t that mean close?

Glen: No, that’s “fermé” ⇢ “closed”. But the world is run by a gardener ; a constant gardener.
So, the symbol for where you do gardening is on a “farm”. That's why the Mafia is known as
“the firm”. It's all a play on the same word.

Jerd: Then they call themselves the Mob which is just Brotherhood of Man backwards.


Glen: Since Chicago is the center, and most of the people who founded Chicago were Eastern
European Polish descent , i t's just another division of the Vatican . You've got the Vatican in
Rome and the Mob in Sicily ⇢ they’re divisions of the same government.

Jerd: They have another place that's similar to the Vatican. It’s all like fancy and everything but I
forgot the name of it.

Glen: Well, there's one in Russia , St. Petersburg , a nd there's one in Greece for the Greek
Orthodox.

Jerd: It's like its own separate entity.

Glen: It’s just divisions of the same thing. The whole thing always begins with one, and then it
creates a division in which it can be made to appear to be fighting with ⇢ good cop bad cop ,
type of thing. The Vatican was a division of the Greek and Russian Orthodox churches, and the
Vatican basically have a division which we call Protestants. ⇢ Anglicans in England ,
Presbyterians in Scotland, Unitarians in Holland, Calvins ran the show in Switzerland.

Jerd: Yeah, that's their modus operandi, to just to subdivide and subdivide.

Glen: Because there's a lot of benefits to be gathered by a controller , when he has a lot of
agents looking at the same thing from different perspectives.

Jerd: Hmm. Islam doesn’t have that many but I guess it just looks different.

Glen: Islam is the same thing ; it's got the real important group is called  shit. Shiite is just a
play on the word shit. Then the money boys are the other gang there...


Jerd: The Sun - Sunni. You told me something about the Pilgrims being western freemasonry or
something like that . But aren’t pilgrims just any missionary or priest , who spreads religion  or
perpetuates it? Because I saw that with the Buddhists.


Glen: Pilgrim means wanderer, and the people of the Romas were called wanderers, and then
they developed a following which we called Judaism , and they became wanderers. They have
no specific place in which they live . They are basically tasked to travel the world , and create
new divisions as they go along . So, that's basically all a pilgrim means, is  someone who
wanders and in their old age goes back to visit the places that were created by them in the
past. Such as Jerusalem , or Rome, or Paris, or that place in Spain , where a lot of the masons
go.

Jerd: St. James?

Glen: Saint James Cathedral there - it's near the northern western tip of Spain . Anybody who
sees the church can change their name to King. [The Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela]

Jerd: Something really interesting I found reading the masonic encyclopedia,  was the Roman
College of Artificers. I don't know if you remember.

Glen: There's thousands of names and you can't get stuck on names because you never
basically move ahead. You just have to basically put in your mind that there are two divisions;
one is in the priesthood , w hich they call Ecclesiastic, (and i t doesn't matter whether they're
Buddhist, Brahman, Vatican, Protestant; that's irrelevant, they're all the same , all the priests)
and then the other division is called Secular Freemasonry…

Jerd: That's the main division , but in the encyclopedia, I saw that ecclesiastic was divided into
three groups. One was monastic…

Glen: That means in the priesthood , there are different approaches that are taken . Some go
inside and are monastic , they live in a monastery, they copy books and that kind of stuff ; it's
just task oriented. But, it's no different than in the business, you have a mailroom. So what? It's
not the purpose of the business , it's just you need a mailroom in a business . Well, you need
monasteries in Ecclesiastic Freemasonry.

Jerd: Yeah, but in there they were saying it's monastic, militant, and mendicant.

Glen: That means [mendicant] poor people…

Jerd: That's Alan Watt, hehe.

Glen: Yeah, beggars.


Jerd:  I guess that was just a straight-out lie (they do that in these books), because they said that
mendicant have no connection with Freemasonry.

Glen: That’s bullshit. How can you have no connection with freemasonry, when priesthood is
freemasonry?

Jerd: Yeah. I just don't understand why he would he list that as Ecclesiastic Priesthood, then say
it doesn't have any connection with Freemasonry. I don’t know why he would do that.

Glen: There's a need for leadership , and that's Ecclesiastic , and there’s a need for spies , and
the two main divisions of spies that they have , is Roma/Gypsies, who are known throughout
the world under different names , and in the United States they are known as Native
Americans or Indians . ⇢ They basically spy from the ground up , while the leaders control
from the top down.

They appear to be not on talking levels with each other , but in fact they are basically,
complementary to each other . It’s like burning a candle at both end s; they're both working
towards the middle . But apart from those two main concepts of working both ends towards
the middle, they had to have a part that would be spies in the middle , and that became the
unicorn, or the weeman. ⇢ That's why they call ed King “Louis”, because they're “yes” men,
but they're not men.

Jerd: Can you pinpoint exactly when they came out with this?

Glen: Well, if you go back to Egypt, you'll find some women, Nefertiti and before her…

Jerd: Those were the two in one hermaphrodite?

Glen: Yeah. The Hatshepsut (hat she put s) ⇢ that was one of the two in ones , and probably
Cleopatra. An ugly looking woman, Cleopatra was.

Jerd:  Oh really? Because she’s described as this beautiful...

Glen: Not Elizabeth Taylor.

Jerd:  Oh, so she must have really been good at oral sex with Caesar , because I heard that
Caesar was really in love with her, or something like that.

Glen: Well, when you haven't had that kind of activity in your life, especiall y if you're in the
military, and you’re not home often… hey.

Jerd: Hehe.

Glen: Hey, I may be 68 years old, but I remember, hehe


Jerd: Hahaha.

Glen: Certainly, better than going to bed with a woman who says , oh, you want sex? Okay well,
you got 15 minutes. Let me know when it's over.

Jerd: Haha

Glen: How do you know when she's had an orgasm is she drops her ice cream cone on your
back.

Jerd: Hehe. From what I see with  the wom en today , for the most part they just want to
accumulate money. They actually work as much as the men do.

Glen:  Of course.

Jerd: Just to accumulate this money, and put it in a bank account, so it gets stolen from them.

Glen: They have the qualities embedded in them , genetically now, from the Neanderthal ers.
That's what Neanderthal ers did; they lived in caves and they accumulated , and what they
wanted and could not  get, was respect out in the community as being equals to the Clan
Mothers…

Jerd: So, Clan Mother was in the wrong t oo on a certain level, right? Because she was greedy in
a sense, it seems like.

Glen: Well, no, the Clan Mothers in “matriarchal societies” are greedy, but if you go passed
the Ice Age, it's a different story.

Jerd: Oh.

Glen: Can't mix the two of them up . They had lost their power by the time
the Ice Age ended.

Jerd: W hat was the war that happened before the matriarchy  then? What
was that like?

Glen: That was in 58,800 BCE, when they told the Neanderthal ers, no, you
can't have our little boys , and  they had a fight over it, and  they got
expelled, because in a clan society if you did a crime you were expelled . At
first for a couple of months , then for a couple of years , and then forever .
So, they got to that point  and the Neanderthalers (although they were
originally related to Clan Mothers, thousands if not millions of years

before) were evicted, so they had to go live in the mountains. ⇢ They went to live in Somalia.

Jerd: They love mountains. I always hear that all their priesthoods go to the mountains.

Glen: Well, they came originally from Turkey, and Turkey is a country of mountains  and caves
and underground buildings.

Jerd: There’s another mountain that’s interesting called is Mount Moriah.

Glen: Mount Moriah is a mountain, a part of the number of mountains that have been famous
by the system before. The first one was Mount Meru in Africa, next to Mount Kilimanjaro.

Jerd: Do you think there’s anybody still over there?

Glen: Oh, yeah. Mount Kilimanjaro, as matter of fact, is losing its snow cap these days.  It won't
have any snow in the next five or six years.

Jerd: What do you think is the lifespan of the Neanderthalers today?

Glen: I have no idea . I have absolutely no way of knowing  even if they are still physically alive .
Once they transferred their genius to the machine , to the computer HAL, then they became
extinct for all intents and purposes . There was no real purpose for them . They were not
physically able to do muc h, and y ou never know, maybe the robot decided to keep them like
pets - E.T. types.


Jerd: So, this is a robot which is one entity?

Glen: As far as I can determine , a computer that teaches itself is compartmentalized , and it
has points of merger , s o that instead of having just one big robot that for every question

asked, go through asking the entire question of the one machine , it subdivides the task into
the appropriate divisions of the computer, and simultaneously it performs searches in each of
the appropriate sections.

Then it brings all of the information and combines them into a final answer . So, does that
describe a one computer, or a compartmentalized computer? I suggest that what they have, if
it's in one place, they would have more than one, and in likelihood it's not in one place, it's on
a mobile platform, such as what we would call subway train.

They're always on the move in this geodesic roadway that they have , s o that if ever by
accident if anything happens to  one, it doesn't happen to all of them . So, it's a decentralized
memory, something like clouds ; t hey’re a ll over the place , and then they're not , and  they
appear and they're never quite the same.

Jerd: When I read these words, I can't apply it [the code] like you do, but when they talk about
the “Supreme Being”, I know that in the word it says, “Su” from a “Boy called Sue”, and “pre
me”…

Glen: It also has soup, and a  soup is
basically what they're about to make.

Jerd: Mess-of-pottage; a stew.

Glen: A mess-of-pottage is a fish stew.

Jerd: I guess they're gonna make a big
mess.

Glen: Yeah, that's why you gotta have
a critical m ass, t o fight the critical
mess.

Jerd: Oh.

Glen: The “A” is like the cosmetic one , while the “E” is the destroyer one . The “O” is the
original.

Jerd:  Is that related to the concept of creator, destroyer, and preserver?

Glen: Yeah, w hat you have is “Santa Claus ” and “Satan”. ⇢ The same word  “Santa” and
“Satan”, just the letters are scrambled.

Jerd: I'm trying to study these animals , look at them, and try to learn something . Is there
anything that you think I could look for?


Glen: Well, you have to see how curious they are. You have to see how they react; that they're
fearful at the same time as they're curious .  So, it's always kind of trying to sneak up and learn
but quickly run back, because they're afraid at the same time. [They] have that dual personality
that comes about , and t hen you look at their method of having sex . For some animals they
would pair up , and stay with the same partner for a long time . Others, they would screw
anything that walks, even a turtle without a shell.

Jerd: Last night a friend and I were having a conversation about animals. One animal in
particular will have a mate, and if that mate dies, it’ll never have any another mate.

Glen: That's a myth.

Jerd: Oh, really.

Glen: Even the birds that are monogamous (stay with the same partner all their lives ) have
affairs. They're not always out gathering worms.

Jerd: I’m coming to the conclusion that human beings are not meant to be monogamous. We’re
not meant to be with the same person.

Glen: Absolutely not; marriage is a dysfunctional project done for the purpose of keeping you
off guard, and unbalanced. It's the equivalent of taking two separate people and nailing their
feet together. It basically makes less out of both of them, not more.

Jerd: Yeah, the whole thing is so screwed up , but people will say, well, how are you gonna have
children?

Glen: It’s all a compromise.

Jerd: To have children and raise them, it would have to be like you said , 12 around one, as in a
clan, but everything is so screwed up.

Glen:  What do two people  have to offer to a child ? Arguments. That’s it. What do you get
from a child who listens to arguments all the time?

Jerd: Ahh, it’s either this side, or that side. ⇢ That’s the media. Wow.

Glen: And they're not there to teach a trade , or a function of anything . They're there to say
my way, not his way , or her way , not my way . Dysfunctional and that's why it was set up ,
period. Never ever in my life, met a functional family.

Jerd: Me neither.


Glen: I've met some who pretend , when you meet them for the first time . They invite you to
their place for a barbecue, but turn around and leave and hide in the bushes.

Jerd: Hahaha. They're trying to live up to that idea l that they see in the media . They tell you to
live that lie; this is how it should be, this ideal.

Glen: Absolutely, and a compromise is never the solution . You either have the solution or you
don't, and being half pregnant doesn't work.

Jerd: Somebody like me in my position, I would like to have a child, but I can't though, in a sense
because…

Glen: It's unfair. You discover that too late , mind you, but it's unfair to the children to bring
people up in a situation (which you have defined through experience) is dysfunctional.

Jerd: But to try to explain this to somebody…

Glen: No, it's too late to explain it . The media is in control of the brains , and the medulla
agrees with the media . So only those few people who have retained a functioning brain can
work it out based on the evidence.

Jerd: Wow. Regarding that stone that you're digging up ; (I sent you an email not too long ago )
from what I’ve I read in the encyclopedia, they mention Enoch and they said that it was two
stones, or two pillars, and one could withstand fire, and the other one could withstand water.

Glen: Those are basically stelas, pillars, not the building (and I've read Mackey as well) and it's
one version of events, but it's not the same version as what you will find in the Hebrew Bible,
for example. It's like all things that come attached to the Bible , they've been manipulated by
those who held the book over time to fit their view of the world , but that's really not
important. The important thing is that there was secret information shared , and from that
secret information certain activities began to occur.

Those activities that began to occur at that period in time between 3000BCE and 4000BCE, are
linked to genetic engineering , so that's basically what they were taught . The other part is ,
there's another piece of the information that was not given to them , that needs to be found
because it would explain the much bigger picture . Rather than simply genetic engineering , it
would explain the bigger plan, and how science functions, how the Big Bang came about , and
all of that stuff. So, that's what we're looking for, is that second piece.

Jerd: That piece, is it actually what the stone is made out of, or is there something written on it,
that you're looking for?

Glen: No, what I'm looking for is a tablet . Tablet that was either square or rectangular .
Probably square, and had half of the information on the upper left-hand side, and half the

information on the lower right-hand side, and was cut diagonally . So, that means the tablet
would be triangular, but the writing and symbolisms would all fit within that triangle . Would
not be like cutting across the genetic information , and leaving one part on one side , one part
on the other . It's separate information that's on both . That's basically how I see it , and I've
read four or five different versions of Enoch . The important word, is the word “Enoch” ⇢ It has
“one”, and it has “ch”, which stands for “K”, which is “the mission”.

Jerd: I saw he had a brother named Lamech. I guess that would be male is the mission?

Glen: That's what you have in Jerusalem.

Jerd: Also, Me the Sue [Methuselah].

Glen: And Elam was the capital of Media, so all of that stuff is linked . There's another guy just
before them, or just after them, called Enos, and that's Eno’s Fruit Salt – there’s a hint there. ⇢
so, basalt, and “fruit” is a word they use for homosexual these days , but the word “moho” is
the word “homo”.

Jerd: Oh, yeah. Okay.

Glen: That's the connection, it's not their sexuality , i t's where they come from . Anyways, I
gotta go because I'm gonna  fall asleep, but there will probably be two or three callers before
then.

Jerd: Are you getting new callers or the same callers?

Glen: It's basically the same callers . There's groups that I call website callers , email callers, and
callers that originated around the discs that were put on by you there on Google.  So, it's three
basic divisions there, and then I have family, old people, that I knew long ago type of thing.


Jerd: How about that couple Barbara and Frank that you mentioned in your video ? I guess they
really understand this material.

Glen: They’re four women , I call them my spouses , although most of them are married . A
spouse is another word for mouse, ⇢ Minnie Mouse hanging around with Mickey. They each
bring something into the relationship which is different . Four different women, different social
engineering each of them . Some are probably even weemen, if not all . That's not the
determining factor . It would even be important if you can take a person who has been
programmed totally by Eastern Star, and other groups of programmers, and managed to break
their train of thought, and turn it on to going in the right direction . One of the toughest jobs
in the world to do with women , because of the fact that they're not risk takers , basically,
looking for stability; security and sovereignty.

Jerd: Are they those wise women that you put in your newspaper?

Glen: Yeah, wise women from the West. Four wise women from the West.

Jerd: I saw that you set up your own order to o. It was the order of Independent Canadian
something?

Glen:  Yeah, the Assembly of Independent Canadians. I said if ever we succeed at something ,
we need a different name than the Canadian Institute for Political Integrity, because it would

have political integrity. So, if we succeed at some place in the future, I said  I would want it to
be someone who would do the job of the CIA, that they don't do, like tell the truth.

So, using CIA, and moving the letters around, AIC, seemed to fit the purpose, and it was a friend
of the woman I was living with , who suggested that as a name , much in the same way as he
suggested CIPI. I didn't come up with those names, but they were suggested to me , and they
seemed to fit the bill at the time.

Jerd: You don't talk to much of those people that you published the newspaper with, right?

Glen: I didn't publish the newspaper with anybody. I did it.

Jerd: Oh, because there were other people's articles that you put in there.

Glen: Yeah, I had a person come in when we did the first paper. She came from BC, and she had
background in graphic layout and design . My background was in printing , type setting , and
management. She said she could handle the paper . She worked on the first paper for about
three months , got it printed . Said, c can't have a newspaper that takes three months to put
together. So, she went back to live in BC after the first paper , and I began to do it on my own .
From issue number two to twenty -two, I  did it on  own, and it took me approximately two
weeks.

Jerd: Wow, you wrote a lot of stuff too, in there.

Glen: The people that were involved in the first newspaper , sending in articles and stuff like
that, seemed to want to control what I was going to write about, and I wouldn’t allow them.

Jerd: In the first or second issue, you and Shelly Ann exposed a lady who was trying to subvert
you, I guess.

Glen:  That's been the story of my life.

Jerd: Haha.

Glen: There’s nothing new, I expect it. As a matter of fact, I don't even mind it, because it's
one of the ways that I learned about people , was through their spying activity, their attempts
to destroy me, or try to stop me , and f rom each one of those events, I grew stronger .
Understood that what I was saying was so important that they had to try and prevent me
from doing it, and it sent me deeper and deeper and deeper . Certainly, I didn't take off on a
journey to ever expect that I would be having an argument with god.

Jerd: Hahaha.

Glen: That's what it turns out to be.


Jerd: At first as I went deeper , I thought, okay, god is just a made-up person. Then I find your
stuff, and learn that god is actually real, but he's not what you think he is.

Glen: Yeah, exactly. He's just a top dog who r uns a system of collection . He has a bunch of
male and female dogs ; the male fetches from the top , and the female fetches from down
below, and the female is more effective at getting information.







If you compare what a priest learns in confessionals, as opposed to what the woman learns in
the bedroom, there's no comparison, the woman always can get much more information than
the priest.

Jerd: When you found that Desdemona code, was that when everybody said, okay, we're not
talking to you anymore, you’re nuts?

Glen: Well, the first thing I talked about was troglodytes.

Jerd: You’re the one that brought that out.

Glen: It really sent people for a loop . I said, I don't understand why . I'm talking about people
who live in caves. What's so frightening about people who live in caves?

Jerd: Hahaha. It just sounds so bizarre to what people  are used to . Like you said, the media
controls their mind.

Glen: Yeah, I said why don't you go visit Turkey or Israel, or Iraq, or any of those places, and ask
for a tour of the caves ? Or go to France and ask for a tour of the Lascaux caves. [inaudible] in
your neighborhood.


Wandjina cave paintings in Australia



Jerd: Moses and other prophets like him, who  helped set up  the Kabbalah for example, were
people who lived in caves. There’s always an association to, or references to caverns and caves.
But before  I let you go; in the Encyclopedia they mention  this lost word . Is that lost word
Desdemona?

Glen: I don't know which lost word they could be referring  to. To me t he word that they're
talking about is mitts. When they say, “Mum’s the Word ⇢ well, “Mum” is mummies (they're
talking about mummies) and “is the word”. Well, in French the word is “mot”. So, if the word is
“mot”, then what they're referring to in English is “Tom”. (reversed)

But, because they never do it directly , what they're referring to is more probably related to
“Tim”. Tim is basically “lame”, can't do things, and that's why they use  “Timmy” in the- Jerry
Lewis has the campaign to raise funds…

Jerd: For little Timmy? Jerry Lewis is the telethon guy for starving children?

Glen: And crippled children, things like that. Well, in reality what they are referring to is “Mitt”.
Like in the past there was the Neanderthaler, and all of us, and that's like a mitt. All you see is
one thumb, and everything else is bunched together in a mitt. But the future cannot operate
on that principle , because it's got to be done throughout the universe . So, the new way of
doing things is “glove”.

So that you have these independent fingers out there , working to
bring things back to the hand , (hand has DNA in the word ) and
the thumb is still there  (operates as a separate unit ) so instead of
having one guy responsible for everything , you're now going to
have one guy dealing with four divisions . Those four divisions will
be independent of each other and the thumb , b ut will be
controlled by the thumb through genetic engineering and the
ability to give birth . That's why Michael Jackson gives out these
gloves, and wears these gloves with jewels on them.

Jerd: So, he's in on the plan then?

Glen: Yeah, absolutely. He's frontline along with his female guide there, which is Elizabeth
Taylor.

Jerd: Oh, so that whole thing with how the media crucified him with accusations of molesting
children, was all an act?

Glen: Of course…

Jerd: He would do that?  He would really just let the whole world think he was a molester?

Glen: Absolutely, in order for him to follow his instructions in the program . It's like George
Bush; George Bush went into office to do everything he possibly could think of , that caused
people to hate him . So, it's the same thing ; Michael Jackson is more personal, George Bush is
more public, but that's what they do.  In the same way, they can turn one of their robots on to
go into a school and to kill 32 people . It's an instruction given , and they receive it  like a radio
and start playing it. It’s nothing strange for them. Politicians have a role to play and their role
is to take blame. ⇢ In return for that, they make a lot of money.

Jerd: Do you remember Magic Johnson, that basketball player? He had the HIV .


Glen: Yeah, everybody in professional sport is in on this in one way or another . It's on a need-
to-know basis  because sport , especially team sport , is how you check if you're making
progress in the ability to control an individual. If you're sitting in the stands and you can turn
on a gadget that basically distracts the goalie for a fraction of a second , they'll score a goal on
him, and if you weren't doing it, he'd stop the goal from being scored.

Or, if you have a Tiger Woods who's taking a shot with his driver, and he keeps making the
same mistake. It's not Tiger Woods who's making the mistake , it's the programming is being
affected so that at the right half second , he gets a distraction and doesn't do what he would
normally be able to do . Through that process they've been
able to break down and understand completely how they
can control individuals from a distance. That's where you get
that term , “so mo te it be ” ⇢ So mo te it be , is really , “so
remote it be”.

Jerd: So, these sports players are all basically task specific?

Glen: On a need-to-know basis.

Jerd: Yeah, they’re basically bred. I know this is kind of
awkward but do you think even pornographic stars?

Glen: Absolutely.

Jerd: Wow.

Glen: Everything. Everything that is media , whether it's sports or movies , or cartoons , or
whatever, all have a role to play , and t herefore, the people in them are playing a role .
Remember what Shakespeare said , “the whole world's a stage”. Well, stop for a second and
say, what is meant by a  “stage”? ⇢ “S” is number one  ⇢ “t” is number two . ⇢ So, number
two goes to number one, so that's a “two in one age” ⇢ That's the age we're living, ⇢ it's the
age of Polaris.

Jerd: That’s why you're able to break down the words , because that's how the masons look at
the words, because they were taught by Pythagoras that each letter was very sacred and holy.

Glen: But it's not a letter  that's important as much as a  syllable. Once you get to the word,
you're confusing, so you always have to back up to that second last position . Not the letter,
but the syllable, and it reminds you what you're talking about is silly Abel. Not smart Cain, but
silly Abel.

Jerd: Abel that was in the background, he was the priest.


Glen: And who didn't want to work , and just want to play the flute , and basically control the
sheep. In the digestive system it comes out as  second last ⇢ caca ⇢ number two, and pee ⇢
number one. So, the “P” is the number “6” or number “9”, and with the letters, if you attach
it to an “H” (which means connection) it's connected to “1”. Because the “H” has one bar that
goes on top of the “P” bar and you're left with a “1”, so it's “16”.

Looking at the numbers, “61” is the year before the end , because the end will be in “2062”.
So, it all has its references and there is no one answer . There are numerous things shown up
by every symbol, and that way they can deny; you say one, they say no, it's the other.

Jerd: That's why I never just accept an explanation that’s presented to me reading these
encyclopedias. I know there’s something more.

Glen: You have to always bring it back into your own brain , and c ompare it to two things;
indirect reasoning based on observation ⇢ preponderance of the circumstantial evidence. So,
it begins by observing and reasoning . You don't have to be there to know that somebody's a
murderer in a court of law, you don't have to have been at the murder site when it happened.

You have to look at the evidence and then say , from that evidence  through my indirect
reasoning I believe that this person killed him . The other thing is , if the evidence is
circumstantial but it is in preponderance, it's overwhelming, then you have to accept the fact
that that's most likely what the problem is.

In the question we have at hand , we have to say, why is it that  women do things in a certain
manner, and men do things in a certain manner ? They've been programmed. Why is it that
their program doesn't start at zero every time they're born?  Well, obviously it's because
there's a part of the program that came from before . Where does that come from?  It comes
from genetics, comes from genome.

Can you play with that?  Yes, we know they can play with that , they've made pigs and sheep,
and what have you . Human beings are just another animal ; if you can make a pig , you can
make a person. So, just because they tell you they're not doing it , do you believe everything
you're told?

Jerd: No.

Glen: So, they have been doing it for a lot longer than most people can even imagine . It's
always coming back down to that ; you read the information , you match it up with what you
know, you ask your intuition its opinion, you reason the total out in your brain, and you come
to a conclusion that you believe in . That's what I do , and t he conclusion I've come to , is
there's a bunch of guys who are lacking in self -worth, who basically set up a system where
they can be control freaks , and t hey control it through a common denominator  they call
money, and fear is the driving factor, so the fear of being poor.


Jerd: Yeah, they always use fear. Right now, the fear is the swine flu. I don’t watch the media,  I
really try to stay away from it.

Glen: If you take the word  “swine” ⇢ first letter  and the last letter  ⇢ “s” and “e” is
phonetically “ici” ⇢ “here”, and then in the middle you have W-I-N, which is “win”, ⇢ and if
you flip the “W”, you have “min” ⇢ brahmin win.

Jerd: Wow, that’s really layered.

Glen: Yeah, more than chickens can do. Chickens lay for chicken food, hehe. In any event, have a
good day. Talk to you again sometime.

Jerd: Okay.

Glen: Now I gotta let some other people talk to me while I'm still awake.

Jerd:  Alright, Glen.

Glen: Okay, bye for now.