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Kealey Seminar Workshop - October 20, 2019

Glen: Oh, I forgot to close the trunk, see? I had your soup and seven slices of bread soaked in the
sauce in the soup.

Andy: Did you heat it up as well?

Glen: Yeah. Here we have the best day in a long time, I think. It's not too cold, not too hot, not
too sunny, not too cloudy, not too windy. So, where do we begin the questioning? What questions
have you got left?

Magdalene: We have, about the family, the medicine, family.

Andy: Yeah, the Medes.

Magdalene: Media.

Glen: Medi-Cine.

Andy: Yeah.

Glen: Movies ⇢ Cine. Medi. Action.

Andy: My question, I guess, is what did they end up becoming ; the Medes? Did they go into the
Medici family and then into Germany?

Glen: Media, Mede, was the capital of what is now Iran. That, you have to believe, is where they
begin the long-term planning for the last 10,000 years. What they need is constant brainwashing.
So, what you have is people moving into houses, people living as families, the startup of religion
and schools and government. That all has its origin in that concept of the “Big 8-0”.

Big circle to find the big answers, the smaller circles to refine the problem. Here, for example, the
people who would know it all, (and Jenny referred to it in her piece that she put on there,
Elections Never Change Anything). You cannot be a member of a secret society that has its rituals
in a different country than Canada and is protected by a police cordon in Orange County,
California, where churches are used for ceremonies and houses are used for rape and murder.


You cannot have that in Canada without the RCMP knowing. Anybody who's going to be named
to a cabinet post has to be identified to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police before they make any
public announcement, an investigation has to take place, and the Prime Minister has to be told if
the person is right for the job type of thing. Now, obviously, if you investigate Vic Toews, (and his
name is not spelt the way it sounds) you would come back with the information that this guy kills
people.

It's as simple as that , and those people are, in Southern California, Mexican. Well, if you look at
where he lives in Winnipeg, this is the home of the disappearance of more young girls of
Aboriginal background, that exists in Canada to the rate that the government was forced into
doing a Canadian -wide investigation in public , bringing in all the women who would tell their
stories, so that they can believe that the government gave them an opportunity to speak out.

But they never came to a conclusion about, who's doing this. They never even looked at it, who's
doing it, because they knew, and they weren't allowed to tell. Now, if you're the RCMP , and you
have a place to file your documents, what is the biggest danger that you face , is that someday a
million people surround the building , force open all the cabinets , and start going through the
paperwork. That's the biggest thing.

So, what do you do in order to maintain a file? Police, civic police, use hospitals, nurses, and the
nurses aren't necessarily in on it.  They go to the hospital , they get the nurse's computer, they
subdivide a section of the nurse's computer, and that becomes the place they hide information
away from the police station. So, policemen have a need to regularly go to hospital. Tom told me
in the last days there , that whenever they want to talk to them , and they think they can get
away with it, they will come and park out on the street and ask him questions.

He had the excuse of going from the house to the car , so he could listen to a baseball game or
something, on the radio in the vehicle, while I was watching something on TV, usually sleeping in
front of it. But the real reason was to be able to go out there . He said, but the bigger thing is ,
make like you're sick and go to the hospital, and they'll make like they need to be at the hospital
and somehow you get together in the same room . You are an informant that has been
blackmailed into not being arrested for what you did in the past.

Long story, but it has to do with he ran a construction company, and didn't do a very good job of
the windows, and every time it rained, the buildings …anyways. They had had a hearing on the
matter without Tom being there. He was basically in hiding, and I didn't know when he came to
me and said he wanted to help , that he was really running away from being arrested.  So that's
how the system works.

Now, if you are the RCMP , what do you operate that is not at the RCMP? You don't want to have
the information on ministers raping and killing little girls in another country inside RCMP
headquarters. I sat there for a while and said, well, they can't be using the hospital because the
Ottawa police use the hospital and they would be kind of passing each other all the time.


An RCMP doesn't have a need to be at the hospital on an ongoing basis. But if you go to Ottawa,
you leave Parliament Hill, go out on Wellington Street, you turn left, you pass the War Memorial,
and the first street you turn on is called Sussex. On Sussex Drive you have things such as the Royal
Canadian Mint, you have the National Art Gallery type of thing. I don't know if they're still there
because what I'm telling you is from memory, and I haven't lived in Ottawa in 20 years, 25 years
or so. So, what do you do?

You keep on driving down Sussex , you're along the Ottawa River, and it kind of curves with the
river, and all of a sudden , you arrive at a place where the prime minister lives on Sussex , and
across the street where the governor general and all of his staff, (big property there too) you pass
by those two places and you keep going. When you get close to the end of Sussex Drive, all of a
sudden, you turn your head to the right because there's a bunch of people riding horses.

You look at them and they're wearing RCMP headquarters uniforms.  What is the thing they're
practicing and doing?  I stopped there and I watched and watched and watched.  Then, all of a
sudden, you see it all come together.  All the riders form a big O, and then an 8 at the bottom
[inaudible]. So Big 8-0, same as we have on the chart, is happening . The files on all the things
they know about are there at the RCMP headquarters.

They're telling you as you're driving by on the road, (if you know what you're looking for) find
the big 8-0. That's where the RCMP hide their material, everything they wouldn't want to keep
at RCMP headquarters. Now strangely enough, when I was looking at filing charges against the
top three Mounties, a number of Mounties came to me and gave me information.  High ranking
to middle ranking; none of the RCMP were bottom of the rung, new people or anything like that.
They were all kind of just below commissioners.

I got charges filed against them, against the RCMP commissioners in court, because of the
testimony of these people.  In Ottawa, because Parliament is sitting sometimes and not sitting
some other time, I got used to going to the RCMP downtown office and picketing there on the
days Parliament was closed , and one day, about 12, 15, RCMP came out onto the sidewalk.  I
remember thinking, I'm going to be spending the night in jail or something , and they came and
they surrounded me.

When they surrounded me, they said, Mr. Kealey, we would like to make you an honorary member
of our special federal investigations unit of the RCMP, and they pinned me with a- they had a tie
pin. In those days I wore a tie.  They put it on me and they said, if at any time in the future you
need any assistance whatsoever, just let us know. Without me knowing it, that these people were
the same as names that I had given to the court, they all appeared in court. They all had to stand
outside the court and only go in when they're called , and they have to leave after they've been
called.





But they testified against the commissioners of the RCMP , which I'm certain, left the judge no
room, no wiggle room. If the people who did the investigations are ready to blame their bosses,
then it's got to be okay . So, the three bosses were charged , then senators, chief of staff, and
cabinet ministers were charged based upon the testimony of the witnesses.  Nobody in head
office of the three commissioners got fired . Although they were ordered to trial and the prime
minister and the premier of Ontario had got together and made up a new rule that said the OPP
is going to investigate the RCMP and they never did.

I was told it's going to be the Kanata Detachment. After three years I brought a witness with me
and I went to the Kanata Detachment and I said, I would have believed that if you're responsible
for an investigation that I haven't seen any sign of in the last three years, you would have started
by asking me, and since you haven't asked me, I'm coming. They had done nothing. It just kind of
evaporates; people's memories and everything just evaporates over time.

So, the week after the charges were laid, the third ranking guy, (I'm trying to think of his name
right now, French, Canadian name, ) got appointed as the head of the RCMP Musical Ride
Division. In other words, he just testified against the commissioners and he's now being given
command over all the secret stuff that's known in Rockleaf . He's got to have connections.  It's,
to me, it's not the commissioner that's going to give him an appointment.  Who gives him an
appointment to go there for testifying against the commissioner? Too much for me to accept as
coincidence.

That basically is a situation that everywhere I look, the people who had testified against whoever
it was, cabinet minister, whatever, chief of staff, they all benefit. Who would give to someone
who testifies against their bosses , and their bosses remain on the job and , these guys get
promoted everywhere? So, I came to the conclusion, slap myself in the face, wake up.  This was
all rigged from beginning to end.

They knew what was going to happen and what they knew was going to happen, happened .
What I thought was going to happen, happened , but didn't happen . So, what do you do in a
country where the justice system doesn't work? You got to remember that I gave credit to Lynn
Coulter, 30 years service, for having come to the right conclusions in the court and filing charges,
and when the media asked, she said, I have nothing to say, I just do my job, and that’s it.

But then I started thinking back, and thought back to the day when I was trying to file the charges,
and the ma il justice of the p eace was giving me every excuse in the world of little forms , long
forms, and all of that stuff. A woman stepped down and said, go on for lunch, and she took over.
Was that arranged? When she said, OK, I have enough information, I want to hear it in a formal
manner, because there we’re kind of in the lobby, and she's on the other side of a counter.  She
says, go up to either the t hird floor or the fourth floor courtroom, gave me a number , and she
said, and I will be back in a minute. Never crossed my mind that that meant anything at the time.


But in order to get from where her office is to where I was in the courtroom ; (and I saw her
walking up the stairs and there was a delay before she got to me here) the only place she could
have stopped along the way, is the guy who wouldn't let charges happen ; the boss, the crown
attorney, whatever you call them these days, I don't know. It's the Department of Prosecutors.

Somebody had to give her permission, even though the law says you don't do it. The reason for
private prosecution is because these guys won't do their job. But why did she have to stop there
and be 10, 15 minutes later than I am walking up the stairs? Somebody told her, this is OK, don't
worry about it, just listen to the facts, make a decision on the facts, we know what you're going
to hear.

So, there I am, three years down the road, knowing that for all intents and purposes, I had won.
But in my mind, it was ri gged. That's why I decided, OK, I've got to find out . People had been
calling me, asking me to go and do speeches, which I did. Talks to a few hundred or a few people,
didn't matter. As long as they got me there and got me back home, that was all I was requesting
at the beginning. But I said, now I've got to change the process, and I'm the one who's going to
decide where to go and tell people.

Like I said, I got a hold of a car for $2 and went on the road, place to place, and everybody was
waiting to hear from me. So, it wasn't a big job to find who in town could arrange a meeting, that
kind of thing. I had all my notes so I could tell them exactly what the testimony had been and how
it came about. Nobody in Canada reacted by doing something about it. No media who attended
any meetings, (unbeknownst to me who they were and what they would do ) nobody repeated
anything I said. One guy in Alberta is the only guy I remember standing up and saying, seems to
me that what they've organized is making a lot of money, how do I get in on it? That's after a few
hours of explaining criminal activities by thieves in government.

I end up here, and I end up in the bush.  When you're in the bush, you're surrounded by trees
everywhere. I was telling Maggie there, how when I sit under that tree, I have a sense that they're
on my side. That they're telling me, you can trust us.  We'll provide the same defense for you as
we provided for the maple trees or the oak trees or whatever when they were little. They have. I
had to apologize that I had cut the lower branch so that I could hang my jacket when I sat in the
chair.

Magdalene: It's for a jacket, hehe

Andy: Yeah, she'll forgive you, heh

Glen: I still feel the vibrations coming off of all of the trees here. These are all fir trees, so, linked
to the word “first”. So, it's not only “S” “T”, but it's the name of the tree. It rains cones down upon
you when you sit there. Then to have Hydro come to the house and saying they wanted to cut all
the tops off the fir trees in the front of the property here because they were interfering with
hydro lines.


I said, if you look at the hydro lines, there may be a branch or two that could be shaved off, but
you're saying you want to cut all the tops off fir trees.  Do you know what those trees are?  They
said, no, it doesn't matter. I said, well, if you go to town and ask the people at the tree farm there,
they'll tell you that they don't grow in Canada. They [people at the tree farm] told me that, and I
said, well, where do they come from if they don't grow in Canada? They said, Russia. They come
from Russia.

They're called Sitka Spruce. They are near St.  Petersburg or someplace around there in Russia ;
the northeastern part, close to water. Somebody brought them here. So, they said, well, the only
Canadian-American connection , is they moved some of those trees out of eastern Russia to
Alaska. If you go and you look at the map of Alaska, Yukon, Canada, northwest territories over
there, and British Columbia is over here, but there's a panhandle down the side. In the middle of
the panhandle is a place called Sitka.

If you would remember about ten years ago or so, in the United States, there was a woman who
was the first to present herself as a candidate for president of the United States.  She ran in the
election, but not as president. By that time, she knew she wasn't going to win, so as vice president
to one of the candidates. So, Sitka would suggest that somebody from there brought a tree over
here and planted it . I said, well, it's not one tree, it's 49 trees, which is the division between
Canada and the U.S.;49th parallel, all across western Canada.

They kind of looked at me at the tree place and said, well, you got a treasure there , you got
something special.  I said, why?  They said, because Sitka in Russian apparently stands for not
guardian angel, but something like that, angel. I'll think of it. I knew it two minutes ago, but I kept
on talking and I forgot.

Andy: Protector or something

Glen: Something like angel, you're protected. They don't want you protected, so they came and
cut the trees. I showed Maggie yesterday. Do you mind if I call you Maggie?

Magdalena: Yeah, that’s’ fine.

Glen: Magdalena. That sounds better, heh.  Archangel is the word they use.

Magdalena: Arch

Glen: A-R-C-H. An archangel tree is there to protect.  So, they know or they wouldn't be doing
this. They know and didn't want anybody else to know they knew, so they killed Tom . He put
on a show for them, but he didn't know it would be his last show . He fell in the doorway to
Walmart because he knew the cameras were there on him . But they took him to the hospital ,
and when Jennifer got on the phone and talked to the coroner, the coroner began reading the
notes he had got from the nurses.


Jennifer said to him, can't be; cannot resuscitate or know that a person is dead in four minutes.
It's totally impossible, unless you know in advance that you're the one that did it . She said it
takes an hour to go through the procedures.  Then he said some other things and she said, and
was there any other bottle between the feeding mechanism and the arm , was there anything
else? He said, yes, and he read the notes , and she just turned to me in the bed and said, they
killed him. They killed him.

Since Bell listens in to all the conversations that are happening on the telephone, records them,
sends them to a think tank , who then work out the details of where they are then , and what
are they going to do about it, Jennifer right here called from the back, handcuffed, and thrown
in the police car, last time I saw her. Except in my mind on the telephone. She said, (I think one
of the first calls to California ) is don't call me on a photo line.  She said, because I want you to
remember me as I am, or something to that effect.

I'm not sure that you're going to find an answer to this problem in the few months you believe
will happen, and it hasn't. She was right. She is always right, and it pisses me off because she's so
negative. That when she continues to talk about things that are negative, I keep thinking you're
causing it.  Mentally, you're causing the problem to continue.  Stop thinking that way.  Start
thinking about a solution around the corner and that's when the solution will come.

Magdalena: I was thinking the same. I was the same. I was very like that at first. [inaudible]

Glen: So, it pisses me off in one sense.  It allowed me to expand my knowledge about trees and
all of that. The Cell coming in and recognizing persons, if it had just been individuals that I didn't
know. Apparently, I know them all because I've been here before, done that before, but not
recently. The ones that I recognize are family or workers that I worked with . So, there's no
question in my mind that what I met in the back was a number of people, proved to be 26, who
appointed Jennifer the 27th, first female in their group.

Can't be that I have the only group. There must be something similar other places. When I asked
them why they chose me, they said, you earned it. So, what does that mean, you earned it? They
said, you never give up . You have to face circumstances that are continually more and more
unbelievable, that people would be so nasty, and you continue on. Even though your own wife
is the one that is the most negative of everybody, you keep plugging away at it. So that's why
you earned it.

Andy: Did they say why there's no females in the Cell?

Glen: It never even crossed my mind to ask when it first happened, but it crossed my mind when
they said that Jennifer would be number 27.  When I asked them, it wasn’t basically their
discussion about how power is transferred over time from the original , which all had a female
background, even though they were hermaphrodites, to women , and then the addition of
males. The ones who would have to take the blame for what they had done, once people figure
it out, would be males.


The women would realize that they were used for the purpose of covering the tracks of weemin.
All of the words , “male”, appear when describing fe male, women. So, you're always talking to
basically a man in their view of things when you're talking to a woman , because they've
included the word man in the name that they've given . Now the process has reversed.  What
you are seeing is the disappearance of power by men, being handed over to women, who can't
hang on to it, but pass it on to weemin. That those weemin will pass it on to gay and lesbians,
and they will pass it on down to the alphabet name of all the groups.

Magdalena: Yeah, LGB.

Glen: Yeah. So just know it's happening, and see what you can do about sorting out and figuring
out, who deserves a better life, a better chance, and who does not. Who are real when they say,
I'm a Christian? Because if you look at the original story, even though it's a fable , if you look at
the original layout of what they're supposed to do, it's not what they're doing. No one would add
a million dollars of donations to change the front of their building if they knew that there were
people living on the street who had nothing to eat.

That's where the money should be going.  You should be decreasing the building size, move into
a rented space as the people stop going to church.  Not glorifying. H ow many churches in this
neighborhood are closed because not enough people to pay the hydro ? I only wish there was a
quicker answer, but it's not the way it works. You have to, first of all, get a request from Creation.
Creation passes the request on only to the Court. The Court is in Antarctica and it sends out
groups of people who have lived and died, who have chosen that as their thing to do.

I don't know their circumstances. Will it give them the right to move up in the lineup, or are they
already there and they're coming out to do this? I don't know that. But they gather information,
and that information is basically based on the three questions. What did you know? When did
you know it?  What did you do about it?  If somebody didn't know about it, then the next two
questions are irrelevant for that person. But they can't deny it because the answer comes out of
them without their assistance.

Think of it ; when you're sitting on a stage with hundreds of people in the audience and you're
asked, what did you know?  You would have all this excuse prepared, but your mouth doesn't
work. You speak a lot more slowly when you're not allowed to participate in the discussion. Then
you notice that behind you exactly what happened when you found out , is on a screen and
everybody in the audience sees it. Not because they have an interest in you as much as they know
that's where they're going next. That's the rule of the game, is you see it in others, and then you
see it in yourself , and Creation renders a judgment . How they do that since Creation has no
language, I don't know. Cell would know, but I don't know.

Andy: Have you ever met those people that seem to mirror each other's insecurities or
inadequacies? They don't know what's going on.


Glen: I don’t know. So anyways, we look at the setup and it's all a visual thing of a courthouse in
the middle, paradise on one side , and a final goodbye on the other side and a lineup . You can
go into paradise if the Court allows. Not on the judgment of people who used to send them to
paradise, was nuns. Because being a nun is equivalent in their mind to being a hypocrite.

When they talk about cosmetic, they are cosmetic. They are not real Christians.  The Christian is
just where they start ; all religions, all governments, all bureaucracies . They are the worst
because they benefited from the assassination of the royals in 1789 in Paris, on the front lawn;
chopped their heads off. They had seen the worst that royals could do, and now they've put in
place a system worse than what a few 2,000 royals could do, and replaced it with millions, if
not billions , of bureaucrats around the world who steal the resources of a country for the
purpose of feeding a one-world government.

No future left in that process. Only cataclysmic events can make a change. Catastrophic events
come into play when nobody listens . Creation doesn't create cataclysmic events that kill
millions, but Creation has the power to stop it . The exercise that I'm going through from
beginning to end , is basically to have me, in this case, and others in similar cases , I imagine, to
walk through step by step and see that when these people are cleansed from life and ain't going
to paradise, those people have to bring with them what you may believe before you look into it,
that it will take with them a whole bunch of people who don't deserve, like their children and
their parents and grandparents.

The reality is not true, because they are who they are because they inherited either traits, or
DNA, or personalities , from their parents and grandparents before them . Four generations
leading to them, fed this person to be as nasty and as self -serving as you can get . While they
were being nasty, they were making children, and those children are waiting to take their place
and be as nasty or nastier in the future. So, don't be shocked by the fact that children will die.

Jennifer prompts in here and says, Cats didn't have anything to do with it, and so will they die? I
put the question, I got no answer.  Cats are going to a different place is basically my conclusion.
They are going to be okay. This is kind of the notion of the safety provided for cats ; surrounded
by trees in a limited space temporarily.  Then all of the clinic needs they may have during that
period of time being done here by a Ciellikle, a heavenly clinic, is what I imagine the word means,
and some people who will join with them and want to go as well.

By the way, there was a helicopter, from what I suspect, from what I saw, that dropped down this
morning. Came about 100 feet. Big, heavy thing. I was having trouble seeing it because the sun
gets up over there.  Then it flew. So, it seemed to be on a journey from Montreal to Toronto or
some place, Kingston, some place that way.  Big noise! I was talking with Jennifer.  I was in the
house and I could hardly hear myself talk.  Just hovered over a bit and then moved in that
direction. So, they had to come and check out your work, heh, digging the circle.



So, we are not alone, is the conclusion, that there are thousands if not millions of people watching
what is being done.  Hopefully, out of that will come some people, quote unquote, “with
functioning brains”. Those with functioning brains will, if they take up the challenge of a new
lifestyle, then they will learn . If they decide that learning is too tough, they won't learn . But
what happens to them is not our responsibility.  To all the people who will live or be saved, it's
their responsibility, and parents for their children and their grandparents.

I looked at the story of New York; the governor Cuomo, and looked into the background, and the
great grandmother of Cuomo was a streetwalker. She was poor and she had no place to stay. You
saw the journey of a great grandmother having children who had children who had children, and
the change in the span of 100 years from being poor on the street to being the governor of New
York is possible.

So, for those people whose ancients did the right things and they changed along the way, they
should stop for a minute and consider that death is easy.  Death is not a problem for anybody.
You're alive, you're dead. If something happened in the middle, like the cat got bit by a coyote or
something, you die.  Five minutes, ten minutes, ten years, that's nothing.  If you don't take the
time to do what you can do to change things, eternity is a long, long time . By the way, eternity
is a number eight lying on its side. If you look at the meaning of the word eternity, is...

Andy: [inaudible]

Glen: And if you look at a number eight, that's life- I got a plastic one over at the other chairs over
there. When you are born, you're dropped someplace on the eight. Are you middle class? You go
in the middle. Are you rich? You go this side. Are you poor? You go this side. Your job in life seems
to be to stay on the rich side. But life takes you around. Where do you deserve to be for eternity?
Would you like to be with the poor, with the rich, or with the middle class? Because what you do
while you're here, no matter what group you're in, will determine in the end how you spend
eternity.

Going around in circles, joining another circle, go around in circles. Do what you can do to affect
the process, or your eternity on one side will be ushered off the map and you're not there
anymore. There you will have everything you want , or need, or suggest, or what have you, but
most of the people are sitting in the middle waiting for their turn. So, although they're not cold,
they're not hot, they're not hungry, they're not all these things, they have no access to anybody
they ever met . Whether family, friends, co -workers, whatever, they only know of two people
every day.

Those two people change from being a person you just met to a person you'll never see again ,
and you're in the middle.  You're waiting for your turn to go in the courthouse and sit in the
audience and watch and ponder about what answers you would have given to try and cover up if
the need be, or what truths you would speak. But don't worry, actuality will be there. So, you're
not making the decision as to what is shown. You have it; it's retrieved from you. But it's not you
allowed to explain it, or excuse it, or whatever. Any questions?


Magdalena: I'm thinking.

Andy: I've got a couple if you're thinking.  Well, the first one would be quickly, to finish off what
you're saying about people in purgatory.  Are they presumably the people that were asked the
question, what did you know, and they were like, I don't know what you're talking about.  Okay,
you go to purgatory , and the reason there's so many people there is because so many people
don't know what's going on.

Glen: Don't want people to know.

Andy: Okay.

Glen: It's funny because everybody does something they don't want other people to know  at
one time or place in their lifetime. That's not a problem. Sex, by the way, is not a problem. This
is an invention of the nuns so that you won't see each other naked.

Andy: And learn some stuff, hehe.

Glen: And learn what reality is all about . So, what you did is not the problem.  It's what it cost
and how you tried to make up for it , and that kind of stuff along with the rest of your life .
Sometimes you can't make it up to the person you did something to because they're dead or
whatever. So that's not the blame.  Did you learn a lesson along the way?  Did you change your
attitude along the way? Or did you keep repeating the same stuff just so you could be richer, more
mentally feel higher than anybody else? That's what's going to give you your eternity.

Of course, Creation has said, although I will not allow eternities or any future to be run by nuns
or anybody else for that matter, I want to give people one last chance . When they come out of
the Court and have been found guilty, do they in fact have no more choices, no more places to
go? The answer to that is, at the door of the courthouse, there will be a red chair. I told Jennifer
when she gets back, one of her jobs is to paint the chairs red.  One guy said, you're leaving them
outside, they won't last. He said, what are you going to do when they fall apart?

I said, what Creation does, I'll burn them. That's it. That's what it was made for, if it's not going to
be used as a chair. Anyways, in the red chair at the door of the courthouse is Jennifer. Somebody
coming to Jennifer, is not going to an easy place because Jennifer is not willing person to get any
of those people off the hook, so it's a tough ride. But if Jennifer basically says, what did you do to
try and help that didn't convince the Court that you deserved another chance?






Depending on their answer, and she can be short and sweet saying, buzz off . Much easier than,
yeah, okay, you can stay without going on an ice float down to the Pacific or something. But what
she's most likely to say, you deserve everything that the Court gave you. If I know Jennifer, she's
not forgiving anybody anymore. She was born in a family that didn't have her. She was the product
of a nunnery in Ontario and sent with another, I think it was 150 or 250 like her to Ogdensburg.
She was given to or sold to is kind of question mark by the nuns.

They don't give much. They always look for money for everything. The couple who quote unquote
“adopted her ”, was German, taken across Canada, down into the U.S., short stop kind of in
Oklahoma on the way down.  The parents were both teachers.  The father was approached by
some members of authority saying, if you don't leave Oklahoma, I think it was, if you don't leave,
there's a movement to have you arrested or something to that effect for something you did in
school, I guess.

So, obviously it must have been right , because her parents packed up right away, went to
California, contacted at some religious group's request, contacted the bishop who provided a
birth certificate for Jennifer that made it appear as if she was born in California, and could never
have been part of anything like that. But you follow the story and you find out that they then have
three children of their own. Jennifer gets relegated to the role of an adopted kid in a family that
wished they hadn't done it, and has to spend her entire life based upon that kind of relationship
with her sisters who considered her to be less than they are.

And knowledge that all of her life her father was being paid for having taken Jennifer. That some
place there is a fund that the family lived on and she was deprived of , that is there not from the
income of their parents, but from payment for taking Jennifer on the worst life you could get. The
father is accused of having abused her to what extent I didn't bother asking. If it's what I believe
he had done in Oklahoma, or Montana, or some place up there, then it would have been rape of
a child. All of her life she, to the time she was 20 or thereabouts, was miserable.

She ends up marrying a guy from a Jewish family who made no decisions in his entire life, but
followed instructions from his mother. Once she had two children, they appropriated the children
and her husband threw her out of the house on the street. She was locked out of any value by a
court for the right to have access or to keep her children.  Her husband was defended in doing
what he had done to say the control over the children would be his parents, with the
acquiescence of her own parents who lived on th e verge of an arrest for what they had done to
her.

She ended up in the hospital. She ended up on the street. She held herself long enough to become
a nurse. She is probably the best nurse they ever had . Because I'm getting reports from the Cell
about how Jennifer goes to work and doesn't go home until it's finished, until her role of that day
is finished. Everybody else is on a time clock, and as soon as the time comes to go for lunch or go
home, they go home and it's all contained within an eight -hour workday. Whereas, I've never
heard of Jennifer going home on time. She's got to do all the reports.


As a director of nursing, you have a lot of paperwork. But if you've been a nurse all day in a place
where people are trying to hit you in the face , or slam you over the head with a chair , or what
have you, which is a mental institution; not a surprise. 99 people walking down the halls, you're
going to have one of them along the way who'll whack you as you're coming by, and then having
to sit down and do two hours' worth of paperwork.  You're not going to feel that the world is
compassionate, and that if you were asked your opinion, her response would be cataclysmic, get
rid of all these people, get rid of anybody in the world who is not ill, but do it for money or power,
like nuns.

It was since the Cell came on to talk to me that they say our first task was start cleansing paradise.
Get everybody who got there based on recommendations from nuns, (and they are mostly nuns)
get them out. Make room for reality. Let the cats come. Let the cats come into paradise, and let
the cats bring with them the people who deserve to be here . Not the people who took them on
as pets for the purpose of self -satisfaction. But what are they doing ? What did they do for the
cats? Instead of, what did the cats do for the person?

So, I have no excuse for negativity, but I understand where Jennifer is coming from.  The Cell
understands where she's coming from because it's on their recommendation that I pursued the
possibility that we get married.  She has proven to me by her work at the hospital, mostly not a
hospital, what do they call it, a hospice, not a hospice, mentally handicapped people go there to
die. I forget what name they put beside Clear View.

You see clearly the entire structure of the world when you look at those 99 people, because she
explains to me what this person did or what that, without ever giving me any names because I'm
not allowed to carry that kind of information, but just how things evolve in the place that she has
worked. I'm shocked basically that she survived. She's doing what she's doing now for our sake,
basically. She wants to return here. She wants to advance the cause of the cats.

She wants people to be who they say they are and do what they say they'll do because she's
had none of that all her life . She says, it couldn't have happened unless the farm existed and
the cats existed and all of that. Why would I go to Canada except to be with you? If they kill you,
I don't want to go to Canada.  Bunch of nasty people in Canada, just like our place, just like Los
Angeles; everywhere.

Magdalena: Yeah, it’s everywhere.

Andy: Do Neanderthals, or how, or whoever is running the show or the stage, did they know
about what they're doing with what happens to people after they die? Did they know about that
process? They know about it?





Glen: Yeah. It's part of the plan. Their idea- I always have that picture in my head; pre-Ice Age on
this side, post-Ice Age on that side, a mountain preventing the people from going from here to
there without suffering for thousands of years in the cold. Then the controllers going in a tunnel
underneath and coming out the other side unscathed, didn't have a problem, spent thousands of
years from 24,000 BC to 0, 48,000 years, was spent adding to the tunnel structure underground
by people we manufactured underground, and got the personality, the size, and everything down
pat, for how do you clean out a tunnel in only the space you need, because you only have 48,000
years to tunnel the entire planet.

If you move five feet every day, you're going to do it easily in 48,000 years.  So, you can expect
that everywhere underground there is a connection to the, over, the top. So, they pop up, choose
an area, look around the area, say how could this part be used? Then they go down and they say,
we should have a mountain here or a hill there. It's just a matter of lighting volcanoes, or pushing
up pressure to make a bump on the surface, and then they populate it.

We are all the product of a laboratory, worldwide. Started in Antarctica when it was green and
has evolved to what you see today. It's a whole bunch of divisions of groups of people who will
fight against each other to keep busy.  War, pestilence, famine, disease, all of that becomes
structure, and like any project, things go wrong. Not much, not enough to dislocate the project
or redirect the project, but to get people who care in a place they don't want people to care ,
there you are.

If somebody had told you that a kid 16 years old would say, Glen Kealey, and then you have printed
material that comes from Jerd and Danny. Somebody had told you that would change your way
of thinking, you would have said at the beginning, up yours, it doesn't make sense, that kind of
stuff. But it happened. Why? Because Creation meant it to be. Creation is the only one with the
power to override. Creation is not a person, it's a process. So, it's not anything that I do or you
do, it's a thing of the group does.  We are tools of the process that Creation is saying, not us ,
we're not dumb enough to follow this.

For the sake of having a bottle of Chivas scotch, instead of a glass of water , or a can of Pepsi,
you're giving up eternity? You only live 100 minus years out there, and you're not able to think
for the first 20 or so, and then you're busy for the next 40. The sooner you get on track and do
what needs to be done, the sooner you'll guarantee your arrival at what you wanted to have
happen before you die. Here I am, here you are.

Guy comes out of Texas, guy comes out of Scotland, woman comes out who had no money for
fare and Jennifer steps in, sends her here, they get married, they haven't come back.  But they
cannot erase the fact that they entered a place that thinks differently than the place they reside
in or were born in, and it explains some of the problems that they had. But they're young, they
got time. Whether or not they take advantage of the situation and do something , or were they
only for their self-serving purposes of the life that is offered to people on this planet, I don't know.


They don't all leave with a sense of, I got something to do, I want to do something , don't know
how, don't know where. They left without any comment that I could even point a finger at and
say they care. No idea. Hoping, down the line some place as they grow older, they’ll think about
it. Most of the people though, that have come here, left with what can I do. You can do whatever
it is you think you can do , because I can't think for you . All I know is that I have the evidence
that Creation wants this done, and Creation has the power to make it happen.

Creation seems to be providing the pieces of the puzzle a little bit at a time. Not to make it too
easy, I guess. When I see a car arrive that I've never seen before, and out comes a taxi driver who's
driven me to town 50 times or so . Here's lunch. I said, would I have believed that from the taxi
rides? No. This is a man whose family owned the taxi business , and he worked there because
nothing else that he did succeeded.  He had to earn a living so he went to work in the family
business. From everything I heard him say before, I couldn't figure out if he would ever figure it
out.

Then the tractor broke, and when he dropped me off, he came, he looked, and he said, I'll fix it ,
and he left. Never did anything until about a month and a half later. He came in and said, you got
any tires here? Tires? He said, yeah, I need three tires. I said, well, if you look around there, there's
some tires on the ground there, what do you want old tires for? Just get them. He gets three tires,
he puts them down on the ground, takes the tractor, pushes it off, it falls over onto the tires , he
looks and he says……did something. Then he shoves the tractor back on and he said, you got the
keys? Give him the key, vroom, vroom, vroom.

If you had told me that a month and a half before, that he'd even remember. Yet, he went away,
his brain kept thinking, and finally he said, problem is you can't get at it, it's too heavy, and don't
have any equipment like you do at a repair shop ; jacks and stuff like that.  What else can I get?
Somebody said, just put tires. That's it, missing piece, hehe.

Magdalena: I have a question about Cells. Because you said, you only see Cells and they told you,
you earned, that's why you see them. But, one day, you said, it would be time for us. Did they told
you we're going to see Cells?

Glen: They didn't tell me, they said, there will be other people that will join in what you're doing.
Those other people, I imagine, like me, have to have contacts , or they won't have the evidence.
It's important that you have evidence before you do something.

Magdalena: Yeah. Actually, when I came here after two days, I said to Andy, I know why I came
here, I just want to see Cells, hehe. Remember that? Like, boom, the light in the tunnel, like yeah,
I know.





Glen: I can only give you my story, but someday, somehow, your position will prove to have
been only a beginning  that there's a next step, and the next step ; there’s always thinking in
between. That's why I started reading books one chapter at a time. A chapter is an opinion, and
in the opinion, if you read the next chapter, you forget part of the first opinion, and everything,
so, get the opinion, walk away.

Magdalena: I have all the marks, so the most important thing.

Glen: I just want to check in case the person calling would be Robin.  I forgot about her. She said
she would do something today. It's the taxi driver.

Magdalena: I thought actually it is him. You say about him nice stuff, that's why.

Glen: Huh?

Magdalena: You say about him nice stuff, like he came, he fixed, that's why the energy [inaudible]
is like, oh, cold.

Glen: Yeah. [phone call] Hey, Ray, I've got a seminar going on. Can we put off our discussions till
midweek? Call me on Wednesday morning.  Yeah. Okay, thanks. Bye. Yeah, I forgot that he calls
me on Sundays when he works.  It's not usual that he works Sundays, but he told me last week
that he was working today, and I usually talk to him on Wednesdays.

Magdalena: Oh.

Glen: I forgot, and then the other one is Robin, but I don't think she has made any contact here.

Andy: She wouldn't work on a Sunday, though, would she?

Glen: Probably not. Monday is more likely. Yeah. I forgot to light my fire, too.

Andy: Oh, yeah.

Glen: Okay. Safe and sound. Pepsi. Is there a Pepsi in the house? No.

Andy: No Pepsi?

Glen: I got some in the fridge to keep it from freezing.

Andy: Hehe.

Glen: Because it's warmer in the fridge than it is in the kitchen.

Andy: Hehe.


Glen: Anyways.

Andy: [inaudible] he rang when we were talking.

Glen: Eh?

Andy: Because we  were talking about him , and then he  rings as well.  Taxi driver, he must’ve
[inaudible]

Glen: Yeah.

Andy: I was going to ask you about what you know about gold?

Glen: What I know about gold; comes from outer space.

Andy: Oh, really?

Glen: Yeah.

Andy: Because it's used a lot in the Anunnaki story.

Glen: Yeah.

Andy: You remove the “L”, and that's god.

Glen: Yeah.

Andy: And it's also, from what I've read, an intricate ingredient for genetic engineering.

Glen: Yeah.

Andy: So, I've always wondered whether they- why did they…what's your understanding of…

Glen: Well, gold was at one time the ultimate of power, symbol of power. Because it was heavy,
it was least likely to be pilfered by the workers around it. But when you think of the origin of gold,
and how it's found in mines today, where, what is the factory, what is the process by which gold
is made from the place it's found, and there is no answer in that.  The answer is it's a product of
the Big Bang. It is, in all sense, a mine which contains only gold.  The whole planet is gold, and it
travels through space, and pieces can break off, and hit a planet like Earth.




We believe that it started there, but it really came from up there. They know for a fact today, now,
this time, where that gold is, where that planet, or big rock that's only gold, where it is, and they
are afraid somebody would bring it, capture it in some way, and bring it down as a whole, which
would destroy the entire economy of the world , b ecause everything is based on gold.  But in
reality, gold is a problem to the people who want to be considered the wealthiest of all people,
because of the fact that it's heavy. That you can trade it in for diamonds, for example.

A diamond in gold saves a lot of space in your pocket, because you're stealing it from one
country to another. However, the world gold supply is controlled by India . Everything in India,
in every ceremony, everything, has always been revolving around gold. Gold has moved off of
wherever it is, and made its way, over time, that India, one of the poorest supposed countries
in the world, has more gold than the entire world combined , and they're moving it. It's on its
way to Brazil, and that indicates that they know something is going to happen to India.

That access has to be in South America, in a Portuguese-speaking country, where everybody else
around them are Spaniards, and so there's safety in less numbers, if you will. When I was looking
at the picture of the brain being Antarctica, and coming off to South America is this extension of
what you would normally expect at the bottom of a brain, and it basically fits with the concept
that Brazil is going to be the heart of the future, while Antarctica is the brain of the future . To
be the heart, they're ma king sure that all their resources are being moved there . Is there a
specific thing you need to know about the use of gold?

Andy: As I say, it was used for, from what I've read, it was for genetic engineering.  I was just
curious as to whether or not that was, whether you came across a similar...

Glen: There are some specific things contained in gold that make it appropriate to specific other
things that they don't talk about.

Magdalena: You see, like, example of gold they use to be for moisturizing masks for face, because
it makes you younger. They have something, because even they make like liquor alcohol with gold
inside, because when you're drinking the gold, it also from inside have kind of benefits for your
body. Then there is have to be something, but they do not say what.

Glen: They don't…it’s a secret.

Magdalena: They don’t  say exactly what, but there have to be something, because even they
have the different theory about the Anunnaki, like they say. What they say about them, they came
here to the earth because they want gold, because their planet actually has kind of like  ozone
hole and it's dying, because they need the gold to make dust to fill the hole. Then it's something
important about life.

Andy: That's what I was trying to say, like I know it's something and you never really know exactly
what it is, I guess, or maybe you will . But I just kind of was curious what your thoughts were on
that.


Glen: All I know is the gold is being considered valuable around the world , and the actual
holding of the gold is on a movement to India for the last couple of hundred years , and over
the last 20 years, it's being extracted secretly , (it's not discussed in public ) and being brought
to Brazil. Brazil is a country which is mostly contained within the continent and things around it,
and a language different from all the people around them, Portuguese, who were the first
explorers, basically. If you look at trying to circumvent the world, go to Antarctica and the South
and all of that.  We hear that it's Spaniards, but Portuguese were Spaniards.  It's a separatist
movement.

When you have a separatist movement like Quebec or Portugal, there's a knowledge on a
specific thing that they have , that they're not sharing . Quebec has much of the same
circumstances as Brazil does.  It's inside the country, different language, access to the oceans is
limited, so coming to attack them always ends up in some kind of deal rather than overriding
them. So, they were given their space in Canada, but the anglophones overran them everywhere
else with the help of European, Swiss, and German, Scots. Nova Scotia is Scotland, New Brunswick
is German base.

Today it has a mixture of people, but the base is a different European country that created it.
Russians in the North, Alaska and northern British Columbia. If you travel to a place like California,
there hardly are any visible Caucasians on the street.  The Asian part has been removed and
they're all pricks, so that's why they call them Caucasians.

Andy: Hehe.

Glen: So that's the reputation we have around the world, is that we're the bastards of the world.
The Indians told me that too, that the way they see white people is not the way they see Asians
or Africans or whatever. They said, these people come to take.  They come to take and they've
gone and done that everywhere they went.  That's when we got into the discussion of the
beginning of mankind and stuff like that.

It became evident that they think life began here, on not necessarily this spot, but Ontario.
Everything they say wouldn't fit the known world or the colors of the people or anything. They're
brown; you've got to look for where brown people came was India. Sri Lanka, the southern part
that broke off, is more than likely that area that separated from Africa and became the second
place. That's why the mountain most likely to have been used for genetic engineering in the
Himalayas is called K2, second mission.

In Africa, it's more a mountain in the area of Kenya, where the people who became Hindus
came from. I'm trying to think of the name of the mountains there, but they stretch over the
border with other countries around.  But that's probably where genetic engineering was
established prior to the Ice Age. Everything is linked, but everything's a secret , so you have to
wait until you find the right book, the right mention, the right thing.


Magdalena: Do you know the TED?

Glen: Yeah.

Magdalena: Yeah, people talk about something science, TED talks

Andy: TED talks

Glen: TED talks, no.

Magdalena: Yeah, okay, this is something I actually discovered this year.  They always invited
people to talk about everything, new science, what they discovered , and experiments ,
everything. There was a guy who was actually talking about some people from actually Africa.
Always he said, like you said, they kind of were from, and they always they say, they came from
the highlands, from the mountains.

Never just like, oh, they're from the East. Always the new, totally different. And what did he said,
everyone around, they're being dark color, and they're being white, white, and they're from the
mountains. I said, okay. Always they say that. They never say that from different continents. Never.

Glen: If you're underground for 48,000 years and you're pushing up stuff, what you would feed
through that, would be the ones you made there.

Magdalena: That kind of confirm what you’re saying. They [inaudible] mountains, and every time
it's like, they're from the mountains. What?

Andy: They have it movies as well. They always come from a volcano or something, and cats are
always used to represent something otherworldly as well.

Glen: Think of a flying saucer. If you're going to come out of the ground, then the vehicle you
have to have can't have a runway, it has to rise. Flying saucers, the first ones made, come from
down there, and they come out, they travel, and they learn things from the lab up there. They
have more knowledge than anybody else. The closest to what they have below has to have been
fed to them through the Grey Nuns or Blue Nuns ; somebody who's gathering up stuff all the
time.

All the award shows are basically done not for the person. They couldn't care less about an actor
or a writer. It's being done about information that fills a hole in the data that they have , and
when that information comes in, the person gets a Nobel Prize. These physicists are not working
for us. As a matter of fact, most of the things they come up with, which basically are true and
provide an answer, they have no idea basically exactly how this is going to be used.




But when you put it in the context of all the information ever devised from all time leading back
to 80,000 BC, and you put a piece of physical data in, quantum mechanics, down to the particle,
you're starting at the beginning.  If it fits someplace, it may open the door to a whole bunch of
other pathways you're going to take. Particles, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, nobody knew what a
particle was. What we considered to be the smallest thing in the world was an atom.

But a particle is a subdivision of a subdivision of a subdivision , and what they've just proven is
you can be in two places at the same time . Whether it makes sense to you, quantum physics,
qua, tells you that if you divide something down to its lowest common denominator, which is a
particle, and you send a particle down a laser going in one direction where it will hit a split in the
wall, the particle divides in two, even though it's the smallest thing we know, divides in two.

One goes in one direction, the other one goes in the other direction.  Now, you change particles
by observing them, not by doing anything, but just by observing them . So, when you observe
only one of the halves, the other half knows immediately. No matter if it was on another planet.
So, you have to revise when you start thinking about  particles. Prove that if you knew all the
rules of the game leading up to us, you can be in two places at the same time.

In other words, you can be alive and you can be dead at the same time. You're dead from former
life, you're alive in the current life, and both can act on the same information, and that's what
the Cell is. They're people who have lived and died, and they're acting on information that I'm
having to deal with today.

So, I am me, a human being, but I'm also a Cell prior to accepting a division of the roles that put
me here. One day I'll be back in a possibility of being in another life, should I choose. Same with
you. There is a concept that is undeniable, and that is everything we know and have been taught
is not true. Everything. Because we start off at the wrong place. We don't start at the beginning.
We start after a whole bunch of things have happened , and if you're talking about just this
universe, you're talking about 13.8 billion years or so. That's a long time for us.

But for Creation, that's just another job . Our planet, we think of it as, imagine it's so different.
Yeah, there's trillions of them out there. What do you do? We cannot see quantum. We cannot
hear quantum.  We cannot feel quantum.  But it's everywhere . So how can something be
everywhere that you can't see? Well, it's too small. Where does it all begin? You've got to go back
to the Big Bang or a singularity.

If you go underground just on this planet, and you arrive at a point where pressure is so dense,
and so much power is applied to something, you squeeze it into a diamond. How much material
did you have that made that diamond? Even if it's the size of my fingertip, it took immense space
when it was out there as minerals and earth, and what have you, that got squeezed down to that
size. Nobody would deny the existence of a diamond today, but they wouldn't understand that
what they were carrying on their ring, removed from the planet a whole bunch of stuff that ended
up making that diamond.


Magdalena: I have actually, a few questions about the Cells, because I didn't finish, hehe. Sorry,
but it's just really bothering me, kind of thing. Because I have some information from you, and I
read as well, and I just try to figure out this all together. You said that Jennifer would be the 27th
Cell-

Glen: Of this group.

Magdalena: Yeah, of this group because that's your Cells.

Glen: Yeah, that's with this task.

Magdalena: But she never seen them.

Glen: No, never saw them. Is waiting for the opportunity, but she never saw them.  She was just
told by me, who had been told by them, that she is considered to be the 27th.

Magdalena: Because everyone has own Cells.

Glen: Yeah.

Magdalena: That’s the [inaudible].

Glen: Every task has a group working at it , and this is one task here ; try to overturn the earth ,
hehe.

Magdalena: If Jennifer doesn't, you know, it doesn't bother her, she haven't seen them yet.

Glen: It is not her...

Magdalena: [inaudible] Cells [inaudible] because I'm kind of, you know what I mean.

Glen: It's not her preference.

Magdalena: Not her preference.

Glen: No, no, no. I said, some of this, Jennifer, is they have made me the intermediary between
them and you. The reasoning behind that is that you don't believe anything about a possibility of
change, and they want you to know that that is irrelevant.  What you believe is irrelevant, it's
what you will learn that's relevant. What you believe is based on lies of all the teachings of the
world. At this stage of the game, like Glen can't talk to other people that are dead until it goes
through a process, you can't talk to other people until you have come to terms with the fact
that Glen knows what he's talking about.


You need some of that as medicine to your lifestyle to date, to all the problems you've had.  You
need to have something that says there are people in the world who care, and Glen is going to
be your example. But here we are, four years later in 2014, where you're still saying, I want the
information from the Cell, and I keep repeating, you're getting the information from the Cell. The
only difference between me and them , is you haven't seen them, but I've heard them and they
told me this. I can't make the Cell decide that your turn has arrived . I suspect you have to be
here for all of the pressures that they seem to be putting on me and other things.

The guy that is supposed to be the intermediary didn't do his job , and his name is Gord Brown,
and he was the politician responsible for your area.  He's now dead because he died in his office
of a heart attack. Now, if he had done his job, he wouldn't be dead. But Glen had to do his job for
him under the limitations of not being in charge of anything. The guy that came by- I don't know
if you saw pictures of the fireman on TV, whoever it is that took pictures from satellites and put
them on TV, those two cars were here.

Two cars were located where the tent is there , and the guy in City Hall comes to this place, the
boss of the municipal bylaws. Now, you don't come to this place by accident. You have somebody
who is guiding you with a purpose. He stands out there and he said, you can't have that, you can't
have cars like that, they don't have a current license plate, you can't have them. I said, I need my
things where I've put my things, and he said something about there's a law and blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, there's a law. Mr. Peterson, I will do what I will do when the time comes. Oh, you think
that? He came two or three times. He died on October 1st at the age of 52 in his office at the City
Hall.

Magdalena: It's not funny someone died, but this is funny like a coincidence.

Glen: The Cell says, the people will learn over time or they won't be there. Do they want to see
it one at a time or would they prefer cataclysmic activity to occur?  But one way or the other,
they'll know, and sure enough, they just keep dropping. This is not new for me to the farm. I was
30 years old and people that argued about things that didn't make any sense, it's kind of dropped
dead. That's the end of the argument.

In those days, I used to argue and I wish I wouldn't have had to argue with Mr. Peterson, but I did,
and he just follows like everybody else.  If you don't believe, prove me wrong.  If you don't
believe, do something else that helps people. I have no problem with that, just go away.

Magdalena: They’re the best because it’s not like you say what your experience, yes, you had. We
didn't have that experience. Actually, you live longer than us.

Andy: Twice as long, hehe.

Magdalena: Yeah, then i t's like kind of,  that's new information, new understanding , a nd it's
difficult, but we know you give us- you're only one person who gives us the all answer we have in
our life. You know, from all the life. And I’m just saying, I can't just prove you wrong.


Glen: I got instructions. That's what I'm to do.

Magdalena: But I can help you because this is how I feel I can do. Yeah, you're right.

Glen: I have no purpose in keeping information from the Cell. My role is, anybody who’ll listen.
They can't talk to them, but I can, so I do. I can tell you, sometimes, a long time, you feel that it's
useless because it never happens.  But every four years something changes that I've had in my
life. Every four years it's like, OK, you did the work now , the answers, next thing. Move jobs, go
get a different job and start the process again. All I know is that a lot of people younger than me
are dying, hehe.

Magdalena: It's still OK outside living, heh.

Andy: What doesn't kill  you, as they say,  makes you stronger. So, you should be as strong as
anyone. I wanted to ask if you knew what the date, roughly, on the timeline when Neanderthalers
were frozen. Because it was a suggestion-

Glen: You got to remember there's no calendars when this is happening.

Andy: Yeah, like the calendar based on, I guess…

Magdalena: [inaudible] hehe.

Andy: Yeah, yeah. Our current understanding then of a calendar.

Magdalena: Ice Age…

Andy: Yeah, pre-Ice Age. Because the reason I'm asking is because if it contributed , from what
I've heard, to their single mindedness, that would have been- is that before Clan Mothers or? I'm
just trying to figure out where that fits-

Glen: There has to be males and females in what you're asking; the timeline.

Andy: Males and females kind of irrelevant.  It's more to do with where that fits in with the
singular way of looking at things, which is kind of what the problem is, is that they're just so single
minded that they've lost sight of-

Glen: The bigger picture.

Andy: The bigger picture, y eah. So where does this event where they were instantaneously
freeze? Because there is evidence out there-


Glen: It still exists, this past we have, that is not Caucasian in influence, is in tribes all over the
world have different approach, different knowledge. But they didn't stop doing things , if I can
put it that way. Think of it this way ; if you only have a million people and those million people
think one way; hunter forging. Then next to them, you put 10 million who don't think that. Their
opinion goes from 100 percent down to nine or eight percent of the group.

Now, if you had 20 million more with a different opinion, their original opinion goes down, but
they're all still there.  There are hunter gatherers in the world.  There are people who do just
gathering in the world.  There are people who do hunting.  They're just irrelevant to the bigger
picture because their numbers are not strong enough to influence anybody.

The change, if I am to look back on everything I know. 8-0; 80,000 BCE, if they had had a calendar
going that way, that is the critical role from being another animal to being a human being . Not
always in appearance, not distributed equally throughout the world, but a beginning of a
change, a movement. I believe that the first males were created in 80,000 BCE. The females had
existed before them for what I believe to be 50,000 years. So going back to 130,000 years.

But how many millions of years before did hermaphrodite women grow in stature, as opposed
to other animals, and became ready to launch a process? Is it hundreds of thousands of years?
Is it millions of years?  I don't think billions would fit the process, but you never know.  But at
80,000 years, you had a concept that existed of egg, sperm, and the coming together of the last
pieces that were required to bring us in this direction. 40,000 years BCE; 2000 years after I was
born, there is a laboratory level of knowledge about genetic engineering.

I having been one of them, or the only one. I don't know. All that I've been told is that, if you were
talking in today's language, you'd say you were born in a Petri jar, Petri glass, as one of two people.
It was decided to extract you and turn you into a life being, hanging on to the other person in the
concept of a twin or something for 14 years , so that you would have a head start in preparing
this. Now, if somebody can do that in a lab in 42,000 BC, when did it begin?  You had to have
men. You had to have women.

So, 80,000 to 40,000 was the learning process of genetic engineering. 42,000; 2,000 years before
the end, just like we're 2,000 years after zero,  would have been the trial period type of thing ,
and here we are. The information I have always leads me back to 80,000, 42,000, zero. But they
use a different chart  because what they're talking about is the Ice Age as being critical.  What
they're saying is you go in, in 24,000, you reach the top of the Ice Age in 16,000.

So, it's 8,000 years that way , and you come back 8,000 years that way . So, you're at 8,000 BC
after leaving at 24,000, back at 8,000 , and there at 8,000 BC becomes what they call the final
10,000. 8,000 BC, you see what happened.  You start looking around.  People are gathering in
villages. People are building militaries . The most and only important weapon in a military is
food.



Much more important than a hammer or a gun because if you're 1,000 miles from home and you
don't have food, you're going to be dead.  It's just a matter of time.  So, agriculture didn't come
out because they wanted to feed families.  It came out because they wanted to feed military .
Then they kind of figured out that food is a weapon of war.  Withhold it. Gather it and withhold
it. Force people to do things they wouldn't do if they can't go hunting and gathering because
there's a military stopping them from doing it.

All of the things are just one thing after another to lead us to a bunch of white people different
from all the rest that we got in the world is going to appear. You can't do that in Iran. You can't
do it in India. You can't do it in Africa because somebody is going to say, look what he's doing. So,
you got to find a place where 7,000, 8,000 years ago, you sent people to check out . Call them
aboriginals if you want, they went over and they said, yeah, there is an appropriate place.

We call it the Great Lakes, but they probably had some other name, and we think if you're going
to make a race, most of the aboriginals live west of there , while the east is almost empty of
anything except animals.  So, if you get a few aboriginals to show you the way in a place we
today call Ontario, you will have access to pathways on water from that northern hiding space
down to the Gulf of Mexico . Then you can take them across North Africa and into the Middle
East.

Not just one or two or three, but maybe 100,000 or 200,000 and stick them all in the same place,
and people will say they're different.  This group is being assigned a task which we will fund .
Anything they need, like gloves in winter or whatever, we will provide so that they are, in fact,
able to do the task at hand . Now the task began 8,000 BC on the way out of the Ice Age.  We're
now getting ready for, not preparation, now it's action. You got 2,000 years to do what needs to
be done. Do it.

Any time you run into difficulties, we'll step in and make something happen that will change
the circumstances. People in charge of militaries at the time, politicians today. Bureaucrats from
the city hall are just things that make things happen. You don't want to do it? Get out of the way.
Don't want to get out of the way? Goodbye. Thank you. Next. That's the way I feel they act.

They have determined that I sit in a field and look at that tree , and the tree is repeating to me, I
was put here because they didn't need me.  What they needed was those things over there,
hardwood trees, and we wouldn't be here today had the wind that comes across here , hit them
while they were small because they would have broken. You're here for the same purpose. You're
here because you provide a basic understanding that the rest on the other side are being
protected from destruction if they understand the purpose of the cover.






You're not responsible any more than I as a fir tree am responsible for a maple tree or an oak
tree. You're responsible with giving it a chance, and that's what I do. If I'm the only one that got
the information, I am not the type of person who will say that makes me important. What it says
is that gives me a responsibility that I understand.  They're not asking me to do something that I
have no concept of. They say, look at the fir tree, and I talk to the fir tree and it's my feeling that
this tree can talk to that tree, and that tree can talk to that tree, and together they form a military,
which Jennifer says, that's the concept of the movie…

Andy: Lord of the Rings.

Glen: Lord of the Rings, yeah. The trees participate in the change that needs to happen. So, we
know what the past is , roots. Every place I dig, I have to be careful of the roots because I don't
want to take away from the tree. There are no trees back there, so you didn't encounter the same
thing. But this si de is some job getting around roots.  Anyways, that's clones.  Now it starts
dropping things on my head, and that's cones, not clones. Out went the “L”. There is no “L”; noel
noel    . If you don't have that song in your head, you weren't born anywhere close by.

Magdalena: I didn’t have this in Poland, hehe.

Andy: You're not part of the plan-hehe…new language.

Glen: Here it's a recording that you heard from the minute you heard another person.  So, you
start looking at the alphabet and saying, hmm, noel has an “L”. If there is no “L”, you remove the
“L”. What are you left with?  You're left with “one”⇢ Noé. N-O-E O-N-E. Number two is number
one. Trees, plants, vegetation, no different than ants, bats, rats,  and cats. It's just the material
might be different, but the concept is always the same . They follow a pattern put out by
Creation, which itself is a process, not a person.

So, a single tree is not important in the long run. You need a congregation of trees in order to get
what the next step is. The next step for us was governments, militaries, and farmers; everything
that provides cover and capabilities to go on a mission . We were not Caucasians born to be
where we were born. We are born to be explorers. We are born to, if you believe our leadership,
to conquer. We have lived that period, and we're now at the end.

What happens at the end? Well, either you change what you were originally made to be, or you
die, and go and sit in paradise or hell , whatever you want to call it.  But you will have failed at
grasping the bigger picture. Not always of your own volition, your own fault, but of the fact that
you're a human being and have been brainwashed from life beginning.

Jennifer is that example.  What Jennifer is angry about is she was chosen to be the model for
everything that goes badly on purpose; planned. She was made to pay the price, and that's why
she's being compensated at the end by being the sole person who can change the sentence
provided by a Court as a thank you for all the pain.


Me, pain was not part of my lifestyle.  Me, it was, why are they speaking a language that causes
them to hate me?  When I was a kid, I was French.  The guys across the street didn't speak to
French people. As a matter of fact, I went out and I spoke to one guy, and he hit me in the face.
He pretended to be on my side, and then he threw a punch, hit me right in the face.  I said, what
is it?

Here I am, 79 years old in January, and the same kind of things is happening by a guy like Peterson.
I said, you have enough work in Kemptville to deal with, why did you have to sneak out 10 miles
in the country to find me and cause me stress? Go away. He comes back the next time, he's got a
kid with him. Are you teaching your son to be as miserable a bastard as you are?  Jennifer came
out and gave him hell too.

Andy: Watch how it's done, hehe.

Glen: Back in the car. Is that what this is all about?

Magdalena: A big joke, ya know.

Glen: Anyways, I'm approaching 8-0, 79 will be in 2020. But I am approaching 8-0, and I expect to
live to be 133, but the entire structure of the world says that ain't going to happen. So, it becomes
a matter of making certain that what I have learned is learned by others.  You two, for reasons
known to Creation but suspected by me, are part of the next team.  If not the next team, part of
the next team. So, if you're the next team, there's no other people. You don't get to sit down for
a week or two and say, I was hoping to get this circle done before the winter and couldn't see it
happening, and there you are, you come in.

Magdalena: Done.

Glen: Done. That's what it's all about.  You will have your turn, and I'm not telling you because I
have been told.  I'm telling you because everything that has been told to me has no other
conclusion than, I live a certain period of time , and then you live a certain period of time , and
then somebody else will live a certain period of time, and in those three generations, the world
will be overturned.

That it's not what physically you do, it's what other people will adapt to once they figure out
that the world they've lived in is finished. The world of a bureaucrat going out of his way to give
a citizen shit, 20 miles from town in the middle of the bush , for parking cars 20 feet from where
is legally acceptable or something, I don't know. I didn't ask. I just, when it came time for me to
put up the tent and everything, that was the time to move the cars.






So, what I do, I stand on the side of the road and I wait. Eventually a tractor comes by and I said,
hey, hey, hey. He stops, he went to the corner , came back, and I said, I got two cars, don't run ,
they need to be tugged away, would you do that? I'll pay you. He said, sure, and he drove in. An
hour later, the two cars are over there and I got the space for the tent.  I said, what do I owe you?
He said, $25. I said, come on, you spent an hour, you got a tractor to pay ; $25. Here's 50 bucks,
25 each.

He said, thank you, thank you. I just got two kids and… Thank you. You did what Creation wanted
today. He left and I haven't spoken to him since. I wave at him every now and then when he goes
by. He hasn’t come back and asked, is there anything else. But as long as you're fair, and not like
the gang around here who would argue if somebody gave them a million dollars, they'd say that's
not enough, doesn't cover my costs. This guy was, hey, an hour, 25 bucks.

If you're fair, you have people who are fair later. It never comes from the ones you've helped.
It comes later from unexpected sources . But it doesn't matter , it's a matter of Creation has a
plan, and the plan has been going on for 80,000 years at least.  This is a time for change , and
when the change comes, it'll be because of what I did based on what other people did, to hand
it over to people who will do in the future.

Andy: Well, I got most of my understanding from just spending a lot of time listening to the talks.
Which is, you say, Jerd and Danea took the time to put up, so I have to thank them for being able
to learn through that way , because I like to listen to things , personally. Firsthand, ideally, but if
not, then just a recording.

Glen: You build on the past.  None of us is looking for an applause.  We're just looking for
progress. Stop doing what you're doing, and do it differently. You'll understand later, that this
was the only path. Here we are.

Magdalena: They always say, if you want to succeed, repeat what everyone is doing. It's just like,
go back to the system, but you  gotta to have money for this. It's like in a business.  I'm talking
about business, when now women in the power  try to be in this.  I think I'm going to do this as
well, but a different way to earn money to come here, actually. This is my purpose. But, how, the
last few years I just listen to what they saying, and this is nothing else like another religion.

Glen: Yeah, absolutely.

Magdalena:  Nothing else, because you have every year meeting; emotion, oh, so great, someone
just achieved something, and I know this, this, this. It's like, I can't stand this even watching. I've
been part of this  when I was Jehovah's Witness when I was a teenager.  It's like, it's exactly the
same way everything.

Andy: It's the same process everywhere, yeah. [inaudible]



Magdalena: Everything. It's like religion.  Yes, it's a religion , i t's a  business, i t's any groups or
whatever.

Glen: Military, associations, whatever.

Magdalena: Yes, yes. It's always the same pattern, the same thing, and always playing on emotion.
Emotion is something what they just, they actually, I think they are perfect, you know, they just
[inaudible].

Andy: It's funny, my mom can only define my success based on that process, hehe.

Magdalena: You're not famous, you're not [inaudible] money.

Andy: You could sell a song and then you'd be famous and then people would know that I had a
son who's famous and then we could get more money.

Glen: I have a need now for something that I take as an example of my greatest pleasure in life.
Today, under the circumstances I live, that's a Pepsi. I'm going to go to the house and get a Pepsi.
Can I get you a Pepsi?

Magdalena: No, thank you. I don't like Pepsi.

Andy: Yes, please, hehe. I like Pepsi.

Glen: You want one?

Magdalena: Oh, he likes sweets.

Andy: I do like sweets.

Glen: I shall return in a few minutes.

Magdalena: In Canada there is no Coca-Cola, isn't it?

Glen: Eh?

Magdalena: In Canada there is only Pepsi, not Coca-Cola.

Glen: Oh, there is Coke, but I banned Coke.

Magdalena: Why?

Glen: Because it's too sweet.


Magdalena: I always thought that Pepsi is too sweet.

Glen: No, Pepsi has a bang to it. It kinda rumbles all the way down your belly button, and bruise
along the way.

Magdalena: Hehe, okay.

[interim]
Magdalena: You turn off?

Andy: It's still going.

Magdalena: What?

Andy: It’s still going.

Magdalena: Why?

Andy: …

Magdalena: Did you pause?

Andy: Pause it?

Magdalena: Yeah, because it's….

Andy: You like the Canadian dry?

Glen: Yeah.

Andy: I really like that.

Glen: Canada Dry.

Andy: Canada Dry, yeah. That is cold.

Glen: Feels cool, eh.?

Andy: Yeah.

Glen: For being in a fridge with no hydro, hehe. It keeps it cool.

Andy: Mm hm.


Glen: Ahh. Replaces the scotch I used to drink, heh.

Andy: Yeah, big drinking problem in the UK. We binge drink in the UK.

Glen: Hmm.

Andy: In Italy and France, the kids will have little glasses and they drink it responsibly , and then
in the UK, we work Monday to Friday. Friday and Saturday night, hehe, they get like...I used to do
it. I used to get really drunk.

Glen: I had the same kind of time. Too much booze, but the only place I could learn in those years,
was other salespeople who would never tell you anything , until they had a few beers in them.
Then you sit around a table and you get the hints you need.  Mind you, consequences of having
to get home after and all of that stuff.  So, I think I was  in my 40s when I decided  I've done this,
done it, forget it, it's not going to be helpful , and I stopped drinking.  Pepsi not only gives me
similar pleasures, it helps me digest.

Andy: Oh, really?

Glen: And with the hernia, what happens is gas builds up.  Gas that has no activity to it , it just
blocks. You put a Pepsi in, it's like sending a military group into the field, and it destroys all of that
gas that's there, and allows things to flow. A Pepsi, and lying on my back for a couple of hours,
and in the morning, I feel totally relieved. The closer I get to nighttime, the more the gases are at
work, stopping me from doing what I want to do.

But I've arranged my day in such a way that I do; send Jennifer off to work till 10 o'clock, and then
from 10 to 12 do physical work, such as you did here, digging and stuff like that.  Cut back what I
used to do, which was sometimes dig all day, and then I'd really be sore at night. So, I cut it back
to time frames, depending on how I feel. Sometimes it's half an hour, 40 minutes. Sometimes it's
two hours, but never six hours like I used to do.

Feed the cats in the morning at usually 7 o'clock. Feed the goats after feeding the cats. Get back
in time for Jennifer to get up, because she gets up at 5 in the morning her time, so it's 8 my time
here. We've been on the phone all night ; we don't hang up. When she comes home from work,
she calls, and the phone just is on.  If she's doing something, I'm doing something, we can hear
the phone. Bell hangs up, regular, middle of our talks, Bell hangs up. Just call back, call back until
it comes back on. Next day is the same, except Wednesdays and Thursdays are days off, so I got
to work the laundry with her, hehe. Go shopping for groceries for the week, the same way as I did
here.

Andy: Well, hopefully Robin can kind of help with just back and forth, and maybe even if she
wants to put her energies into something-

Glen: Robin is going to be an interesting person.


Magdalena: I kind of don’t see her as a trouble.

Glen: No. What I can understand is that Sue, who is an OPP , has to know what the OPP have
done. Kidnap Jennifer, is part of what they've done, but stop me from stopping hydro from
cutting trees, and all of that stuff. She shows absolutely no sign that what I'm doing is not right ;
what can I do to help? I don't know if I'm going down a path and will be surprised at the end that
she was doing it on orders from the OPP . I don’t know.

Andy: The file she reads on you, though, is going to be their interpretation of events, isn’t it. Their
interpretation is anything that benefits them.

Glen: Their opinion seems to have changed in the last six months or so.

Andy: Of you?

Glen: Yeah, of me.

Andy: Yeah. Okay.

Glen: But I think the event that got them thinking, was the people who came and said the animals
were not being taken care of. They had to come and check the goats. The police stood there, and
there was policewomen and men , there were about six or eight there.  Make sure that I didn't
interfere.

The events evolved in a way that I was watching their faces when they said, there's nothing wrong
with the goats. Then, oh, but look, there's an old animal over there, I don't know exactly what it
is. I had a sense, the police were saying, we've been suckered, we've been had.

Andy: Wasted their time.

Glen: And they kill an animal because it's old and leave it in the field, and the police left here kind
of heads down. I think they probably went back and wrote something on the file. Didn't act upon
it. Could have stopped it. Didn't do it. But once they went back and thought about it, whatever
it is they wrote would have changed the direction of the next people that came on site. Since it
has occurred more than once , that the wording is always the same ; w e come because of a
complaint filed by some unknown person. Because they wouldn't tell me ever who it is, because
I think they even made it up themselves.

Andy: Yeah. Just need excuse, don’t they.

Magdalena: In Scotland, they can't tell you.

Glen: No.


Magdalena: No. If someone  call you, you have to give the name, send them everything.  But
they're not going to tell you.  You can find out if you go to the court or something like that.  But
they can't-

Glen: Access the information.

Magdalena: Yes.

Andy: What? Because you might get angry and then-

Magdalena: Because I can get revenge or something like that.

Glen: It's obviously political.

Magdalena: Yeah, I know this is like kind of, you know.

Glen: Obviously political, and they're protecting either an idiot or a truth that they've invented. I
don't know. But they're not the same. Certainly, I have difficulties in believing that an OPP car is
used to come here and deliver food.

Magdalena: It sounds kind of…hehe

Andy: It's very strange, yeah.

Magdalena: Oh, they just came to give you food, hehe.

Glen: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try to convince any stranger that the police come and give you food.

Andy: Oh, the police are kind of like the tree; protection for the woman that's giving you the food;
hehe.

Magdalena: Maybe you should make some official thank you for police , hehe. The people will
believe.

Glen: We'll be thankful for whatever it is that got her going.  It may be as simple as she doesn't
like her father, and whatever her father would have done as a senator, she wants to do different.

Andy: That's a lot of times how daughters get their revenge on the father, is to date the guy or to
see the guy who's the opposite of what they usually do.

Magdalena: She's nice…like a very…looks like warm person. But Robbie is not.  I don't trust any
social worker. I know how in Scotland it works, and I said, no. They’re terrible people.


Andy: Well, s he could be accountable for anything that happens and that could just be the
motivation. It’s like s he doesn't want to have that accountability.  Well, what did you do then?
Then she's in trouble….I don’t know, maybe. I've similar experiences with social workers. They're
all similar type of people.

Magdalena: They are spy; social worker.

Andy: I don’t know about that.  Just working in health and social care, the care workers were at
the bottom of the pile, the social workers were kind of these people that came in , and they just
always didn't understand the situation. They never listened. That's what my experiences were. I
was five years working with people like that.  Then if you do clinical psychology, you're kind of
above them.  So there's this hierarchy everywhere , isn’t there? They fit into that hierarchy
somewhere.

Magdalena: Yeah, but they kind of always get the interview with you. What do you know? Who
are you?  How can you come here?  Like [inaudible]  someone, t hey look after and they see
someone else, and that kind of interview everyone. If you want to help, that's great, but you don't
have to know everything about other people.

Glen: It all goes into a computer someplace , hehe. It all gets reported down the line or up the
line.

Magdalena: She asked me, do you know from online? I said, no, I know where you're going. I said,
no. I said through the friend from the USA, but we met them online. But online I know twice. You
don't give me the proper answer.  No, I'm not going to give you because I know where you're
going. You don’t have to know everything.

Andy: They kind of want to know whether something's going to happen here , and they wanna
know-

Magdalena: But this is not their business. That's the point.

Andy: I know, but like-

Magdalena: That's why I say they're like a spy.  They have to know; the social workers. I know a
few people who in Scotland work as social workers.  People give up this job because it's really
heavy. It's not easy. But those people who I know, they have to know everything.  In private life,
this is kind of spy, and they use information against you.

Andy: They don't like doing much work as well. [inaudible] They always get somebody to do the
work. Jennifer must have had experience with social workers.




Glen: Yeah. Doesn't think much of them. Jennifer is the most fearsome person when it comes to
anybody linked to government. Anybody linked to government have to have, as a minimum, a job
based upon what they did or who they are.  That's her attitude. She doesn't give anybody credit
for having the possibility of changing or being changed.

What I told her, I said, and this one's father was a senator.  She says, I remember back in 2002
when they wanted me to go to a motel. Or they would not give me money for housing when my
money had run out, and there was a plan to do me in. The plan was run out of Canada, and one
of the senators was this one. Her father was in on a plan to kill me.  So, I said, I can't tell you any
different. All I can tell you is maybe the daughter knows. Maybe the daughter doesn't agree.

Magdalena: It's not her father, she's a daughter. A different person, then you can't blame children.
You can watch them, yes, because you don't know maybe she's like her father. But it doesn't seem
like it so far.

Glen: There were three people that were named at the time by the Cell, and I'm pretty sure his
name was brought up.  Of course, if you're the senator and you're dealing in a community, you
live in a community, you're dealing from there, and that community is Brockville, and the mayor
has been elected three times, well, obviously the senator and the mayor know each other. Then
all of a sudden you have a daughter of the senator and a daughter of the mayor.

Magdalena: They're friends. It looks like maybe they're friends. Old friends from childhood. The
same party, hehe.

Glen: Maybe. Maybe things are changing.  Got to give them an opportunity to show, are they
themselves or are they follow up on their fathers?  But when they're asked the question of the
Cell, can you find her father, the mayor, they came back and said yes. I said, can you get a sense
of the relationship between him and the daughter?  The first words I heard in the background
were pumpkin. When I was a kid, that was a name some people used to name-

Magdalena: Children.

Glen: Yeah, children. The message that was sent to me at the time was, tell Robin that her dad
did not get elected three times by delegating and walking away. I got elected by delegating and
watching what everybody did when they were assigned a task, and I made certain they knew I
was. If she's there to help, which he apparently said that I believe she is, because she's that type
of person, then she should do the same thing.

If she's in a position of delegating to another group, such as victim services or whatever, don't
give them two days. Make sure they know you're there, so, I told her. I said, whether you believe
this or not, this is the message. Since then, she's been sending me messages. Did you get a phone
call from this person, which is about the fourth or fifth person that's supposed to come and visit
from victim services.


None of them ever do. None of them ever come. I said no. Had placed a phone call because she
had made an appointment and didn't come, didn't call. So, Robin sent a message and said, that's
terrible, apparently, she's not available until Monday, but be sure I'll call on Monday morning and
find out exactly why and let you know. So, I know that Robin is doing her share of the work, but
facing a bureaucracy.

Magdalena: Exactly.

Glen: I asked her to try and find out who pays for victim services, who gives them their salary. She
told me that she didn't know, but she'd find out. We live in this prison where everything has to
be sent out and wait. Most of the time, there's nobody else that gets the definition of the word
timely. We’ll do it next week, next month, next year.  But if you're thinking of somebody who's
contacting you, their schedule is not next week, next month. When can you get this done today?

You get paid a salary at the other end for responding, and you don't. You say you will, but you
don't. I remember calling Kemptville Services. We'll be there on Wednesday. Wednesday comes
and goes. Nobody comes. Oh, I don't know, she's busy right now. What about next Wednesday?
So, from the time of the first communications, which had come from Danny in New York, to her
coming, was three and a half weeks.

When she came, all she wanted was my documentation that they would get reimbursed for
whatever it was they would do for me. She brought a man along to protect her or something.  I
thought he had given me his card, but he had given me her card.  So, I told Jennifer I don't know
what his name is. She calls. She asks the question on a message because she didn't get anybody
to answer. What was the name of the man that came along with you last week?

She gets two days later a response, I can't tell you that. So, I write back to her, secrets, secrets,
secrets. Everything is a secret. Can't you answer a question with an answer? No, didn't respond
to me either. Now, where does she get her money? They got an office in downtown Kemp tville.
Fairly elaborate place too.  The money comes from United Appeal . The charity is supposedly
funding her to respond to the needs of the community. She couldn't talk to me because she was
going to a fundraiser. A fundraiser when you're not answering the telephone.

Who is United Appeal? Well, they're the same people who would have been prepared had I asked
to give the Ontario Hydro $19,000 and I would have a bill of $19,000.  If the people who donate
from their paychecks every payday to help out the community, do they realize that the
beneficiary is fraud by Hydro? Hydro has a process.

They look around for seniors that are alone, who pay the bill. Then they send them exaggerated
bills, which they know the person can't pay. But they know that the person has equity because
they own a piece of property.  So, they maintain that they're owed this money and nobody
questions them. No matter how you stomp your feet and say this is ridiculous, 58,000 families
brought down to a single person, most of them, in Ontario in one year, get asked for money
they don't owe.


How much money does the charity get for its donations?  How much services get done?  None.
The money all goes to a person who can send out a bill for Hydro that is absolutely fraudulent,
and nobody investigates. Not only that, they're neighbours. They build buildings one next to the
other, the OPP building, the Hydro building.

Andy: That’s the most  shocking thing.  They investigate that disparity in a bill.  So, they’re just
basically saying they can charge for what they want. That’s what they’re saying.

Magdalena: I'm just wondering maybe someone steal actually electricity from me as well, when
you have this big bill.

Glen: Here, it all comes down to that meter. That meter, analog, no problem. They arrive without
being asked. They take it off the wall.  They put a meter, smart meter, in.  Things continue, no
change. Six months later, a Hydro car appears . I'm here to change the meter.  I said, I didn't call
anybody to change the meter. No, Hydro wants me to change the meter. They changed the meter
again and put the old one in the car and leave.

Three months later, a private car arrives. I'm here from Hydro to change the meter. What is it, or
who is it, that is not satisfied with the numbers that came up on the other two meters?  What is
it? He said, I'm on contract, I don't work for them, I just change meters. Changed meters, boom,
bills start coming in, $2,000, $3,000, $8,000, $12,000, $15,000.

Any lawyer that I speak to says, no. Costs them $5,000 to hire a lawyer to go to court. The minute
you pass $5,000, it's the money they want , because the first $5,000 is going to go to the lawyer,
to me. So, if it gets to $10,000, we're going to court, because they can make $5,000 and the lawyer
can make $5,000.  But if it goes beyond $10,000, what they're looking for is not the money.
They're looking for your estate.

They will come to me when you die and say, I want my $20,000, $30,000, $50,000, whatever, and
they will say, you're the lawyer, here's your $5,000. No one will argue with me as a lawyer when
I say, they've been trying to collect this money for years and years and years, and never been able
to, but it's owed and pay it. So, what do they do?

They sell the property that the dead person is not there to object about . They get a couple
hundred thousand dollars profit, they pay Hydro $20,000, $30,000, whatever the interest that
Hydro decided to put on it , and nobody knows.  Nobody argues. The person's property is the
lawyer's to determine.







So, Hydro then has three choices once they pass $10,000. Go to court, don't go to court and go
to court when the person dies, or sell the debt to a credit collection agency. If you want cash right
away, you take $0.10 on the dollar, whatever.  So, all you get while you're alive is then a credit
company calling that they are collecting for Hydro.  They're not collecting for Hydro.  They're
collecting for themselves with a fraudulent Hydro bill that they hope you will pay or borrow the
money from a charity. Or go be helpful to us and die.

Magdalena: If you sell this land now, farm, then the debt is coming with the new owner ? Or
Hydro?

Glen: No.

Magdalena: No, it's yours.

Glen: Yeah. It's not attached to anybody else but Glen Kealey. But Glen Kealey has no money. So,
even if they went to court and asked for $10,000 instead of $20,000, I can't live on what they
give to me in a month, and now they've taken a third of that. So, another division comes in to
apply pressure by reducing what I get.

Here's an experience I have with Revenue Canada. I get given back pay three years into my old
age pension, that they should have paid three years before of $28,000. They take the money,
$6,000 something went to Hydro to put the extension from the Hydro pole.  I paid for the other
poles going in that direction.

Magdalena: We saw this there.

Glen: Yeah, and all the electric plug -ins that are there, separate from the $6,000 that went to
Hydro. You gotta to get an electrician to come over and do all of that.  So, three years later, I get
a notification from Revenue Canada that I owe them $5,000 . No discussion on why, or where,
or what, I owe them $5,000. I said, that doesn't make any sense.

I look at the paperwork in detail, and what they have actually done on paper is Conservative Party
is now in power. When I got paid the $28,000, the Liberals were in power. So, the notification of
a debt of $5,000 has been backdated to the Liberal time in power. So, I go off and I ask lawyers
and other people that I know, and I end up speaking to a guy in Nova Scotia.  He says, you don't
understand the rules of the game.

When you are paid a back payment, you should be thankful to your local politician , and you
show that appreciation by donating $5,000 to his election fund. If he hasn't received the $5,000
within three years of you having received the money, the government comes back and wants
the $5,000 so they can give it to him . You didn't pay and you didn't want to pay, so they put it
on your account.



I said, well, if anybody knows that it doesn't matter what they put on my account, I don't have
a job, I don't have any income except the old age pension, and that's barely enough for me to
exist, let alone give $5,000. So, they start adding interest on the money and the $5,000 has now
become $13,000. They're doing the same thing as Hydro from a different direction.

Magdalena: I have the same situation in Scotland.  I pay back my debts and my loans and then I
use the organization which actually is by government, they allow to do it. It mean you can take all
your debts, credit cards, whatever you have.

Glen: Consolidate.

Magdalena: Yes, they talk with these banks and they just cut the interest or stop, and they didn't
do this with one loan. I paid them for this, but when they send me every month the receipt, like,
you know, the bill, like how they're doing, they always put the price which I pay for them and they
didn't tell me. It's as a bank payment. From this bank payment, actually, my loan started growing.

The bank opened, of course, another account because they like to have loan, the n opened an
account. Then from this account, from my account, business account, goes to the new account
they opened, the money I pay every month, and from this it's paying loan. Because there wasn't
anything, any money, because I didn't pay, I thought I pay, that grow interest.

I said, that's ridiculous. You make interest on some account which I never opened and there is no
point. This is how they make money.  Since then, I just realized they lied to me , and, you know,
this whole thing, I stopped paying. I paid maybe one pound per month and now I don't pay. I just
don't care anymore. I said I'm not going to pay. I paid, I want to be honest. I spoke with one guy,
I want to be honest, and I was honest, that I'm not going to pay because this is bullshit. They are
stealing money from people.

Glen: Absolutely

Magdalena: They want me to pay much more than I should pay . M aking fake account, fake
interest, from no money going to this account. It's like, why you make a new account? This is how
it works. It's like, really? They are stealing money, that make fake account, fake interest. I said, I'm
not going to pay. I'm really not paying. Always, my tax return every year is like no money.

Glen: See, the same thing here is, they can't get it. If they believe they can get it, it's when I die.
But there's no money. If I die, I'm not there to show the documentation that transferred to us ,
and therefore, the property belongs to the girls, as far as the registry is concerned. So, they can't
get it from the girls.  I'm not there, they get nothing.  So, what do they do? They take it off my
current pension, $900 a month .Go from $2,200 down to $1,300, and that's my cat food, that's
my food.

Magdalena: I can't believe this is like really a lot of money.  They should be kind of minimum,
that's their minimum, and the maximum, this is their maximum, yes? Health pension. That's a lot.



Glen: But then the two people working in that field come and offer help and bring food. Are they
working together? Are they working one against the other? I don't know. All I know is that Robin
and Sue have access that I don't have, to government activity and charitable organization activity.
If they choose to come here, it can only be they're nice people or they're under orders. That's it.

They are government-oriented people with a background, life in governments.  It's not like you
guys, you guys are independent in your own businesses and stuff like that. But these people have
to respond to government.  So, are they doing it because they notice something's wrong and
they're good people?

Magdalena: Maybe there's some organization which actually  help. If you have kind of debts
[inaudible] they have access to this stuff, like social workers work. They have access to everything,
they know about everything.  On the basis of this, they can help you if you are not criminal or
something like that. They're gonna help you because- it also depends on the organization. If they
really have good heart, they help you. If not, then it’s like…

Glen: Here what they bring is obviously not something that they went to the store and got. It's
always a package of things, like you need dental care, there's a package for that. You need sanitary
stuff, there's a package for that. You need cans, there's one of each. So, are they going to a food
bank to get the food and bringing it? I don't know. I wish I did.

The Cell does not tell me anything that is criminal.  Because that's already before their Court
and they're not allowed to talk. So, if what they're doing is criminal, the Cell wouldn't tell me,
and they haven't told me. Is it because they never looked at it, and they have no information, or
whatever? Or is it because what they looked at is criminal? Now you live with it and you wait. See
what happens.

Andy: We'll get some lunch soon, Magda?

Magdalena: Yeah, we're gonna make some lunch and then bring you some lunch as well.

Andy: Yeah, we’ll bring you something.

Glen: Did you bring me a bank this morning? A Solar?

Andy: One, but there's one. We forgot one at the house.

Magdalena: Yeah. One is at home. We'll come back today.

Glen: How many had I given you?

 Magdalena: Three or four, I have to check.


Glen: I think it's four.

Magdalena: Four.

Glen: Yeah.

Magdalena: Then yeah, then four.

Glen: And you brought me one.

Magdalena: I'll give you one. One is in the car and two is supposed to be in the phone.

Andy: One's charging now in the car because it's a USB charger. So that might be done. We'll go
get the other one. Come back with some lunch.

Glen: I got to plug them in before the sun goes down. I usually do that once a day.

Andy: We were looking online for some stuff as well. Stop this.