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HAL THE COMPUTER IS A DRONE FROM HELL - Oct 18, 2009

Glen: Hello.

Jerd: Hello, what's happening man?

Glen: Hi, how's it going?

Jerd: Me, I’m just overstanding.

Glen: You're overstanding more and more every day.

Jerd: Yeah, I am. But what does it mean to verstand?

Glen: The Jesuits use the term “verstand”, which means “towards” ⇢ towards a goal.

Jerd: Oh, okay. Alright. Because I am verstanding, I guess.

Glen: Nah.

Jerd: This whole picture that I'm getting, thanks to the premise that you have, and everything I'm
putting together is that it’s all an allegory. There’s nothing in black and white.

Glen: Nope.

Jerd: So, how do you explain this to somebody?

Glen: How do you explain to somebody that a system has decided to make a slave out of a
cocktail consisting of male, female, Neanderthaler, Telus telephone system, media, all in a bagel
and send it out in the universe?

Jerd: Yeah, haha. That's funny with the Telus ⇠⇢ lettuce thing, that's actually a sacred plant in
one of the mysteries, so I guess that was known back then. This is from what I got, because they
have the North, East, West, and South, they're all symbolic.  The North, they say, is the place of
darkness, and I think about how the whole Northern Hemisphere is going to be black water  and
how that's all symbolic of the whole world, every...

Glen: The opposite will be true. It will never be dark.

Jerd: Oh, really?

Glen: Yeah, because you've got a new sun showing up, “Alder Amin”. Alder Amin is going to be
in the sky visually at the direction you now see the moon. So, since it's 23 times the luminosity
of the sun, don't expect to see the lights go out.


Jerd: Because they say the place is the North , so I'm thinking the Northern Hemisphere is going
to be black water, that's going to be dark. That's what I was thinking.

Glen: Well, the Northern Hemisphere has 24 -hour days without sun and 24 -hour days without
darkness, depending on how the Earth is facing the sun.

Jerd: So why do they refer to that place, the North, as a place of darkness?

Glen: Well, because it's a place that has the extremes.  But you have basically the same type of
activity at both North and South.  Because the Earth rotates, but it also tilts.  So, if it's tilting one
way down, the rays of the sun go over the equator, but can't basically reach the part that has
been tilted away from it.

So, it does the same thing on both sides, North and South.  I guess because there's no countries
in the Southern Hemisphere . At the South Pole there was nobody going there.  It wasn't like
nobody living in the North, in Canada and Alaska.  They had people there, so they could report
back on the days when there would be no sunshine and days where there would be no darkness.

Jerd: When I look at these allegories I'm just so amazed.  Because it'll be multiple things at one
time, all running concurrently, all multiple allegories, and I'm just like, whoa. How they have the
support pillars of the lodge, one is wisdom, one is beauty, one is strength.  It's an allegory for
Solomon, Hiram, and Hiram Abiff and King Hiram of Tyre.  Then it's another allegory for the sun
rising in the East, setting in the West.

But then I see it's another allegory of the system starting in the East and coming out to the West.
And it's another allegory at the same time for that whole creator, destroyer, preserver, of how
they created it in the East and they're preserving it in the West , then in the South underground
and destroy everything. I thought that was amazing. I guess because of all that time they had to
make it...

Glen: Each mythology came into play in turn as people were being added after the Ice Age back
to the surface of the Earth. So, you would have Hindu mythology going into background being
replaced by Chinese mythology, going into background being replaced by Egyptian mythology,
going into background being replaced by Persian mythology , and then Greek mythology and
Roman mythology. And the last one, a compilation of all, is Scandinavian.

Jerd: The Scandinavian ones were the ones that really interested me, because they look a little
different from the other ones, because they have... each mystery I've seen they had a sacred
plant, like an Acacia and all these plants. But it's interesting how in the Scandinavian one, the one
plant that killed Baldur, or the mistletoe I think it was. But that's different from all the other ones,
because usually the person usually gets brought back to life or is reborn.



Glen: But remember the word “sacred” is the most important of all, because what you're
dealing with is a “red bag”, and your final product is basically a bag lady. So, when you're talking
“red”, you're talking Persian. “Per” is the same as “red”, since the “P” and the “D” can be flipped
and turned ⇢ “Persian” means “red”. So, “Sac”, S-A-C, there's two significances there in the
translation into English from French ⇢ a sac in French is a bag and a sac is a sacrifice, giving it
up.

Now, think of it in terms of atoms. Quarks are so tiny and so unstable that you cannot see them.
You can take out a microscope and see an atom, but you can't see quarks.  Quarks reside along
with other things, (things like neutrons, electrons, and occupy space within a bag. The name of
the bag is called a hadron. Since it's always in the hadron and can't be seen, they've developed
something called a particle accelerator with a hadron collider.

A hadron collider basically means that they're shooting particles around in opposite directions so
that two bags will hit each other, and the contents of the bags will be thrown out of the bags, but
they need to immediately find their way to another bag and hide back in another bag. It's at that
fraction of a second that they hope to be able to photograph a quark being thrown from a bag
and looking for another bag to get in, another hadron, another particle . All of that concept is
telling you some things, i s that today we have different kinds of bags, and what they contain
determines the kind of life that exists on the planet.

If you make a new bag, you're making a new type of life , and that's where in the world of art
they communicate messages to each other . It was Brown, a singer, “James Brown”, who sang,
“Daddy's got a Brand New Bag”. What he was saying is they've created a new version of life .
It's the same thing as saying our enterprise is a success. That they have found the way to merge
all of the things they want to merge , and w hat they want to merge is male -female,
Neanderthaler, media, telephone, high-speed communication, all in a bag, so that it can be sent
out on journeys in a pod to the outer reaches of the universe.

Jerd: When did they decide exactly when to have the three-in-one?

Glen: Well, as far back as you can see from the beginning of history, which follows the Ice Age,
they're obviously working towards that goal. It's the realization that by creating genders, you've
weakened the slave and strengthened the individual . That is great for the individual, bad for
the slave master. So, the slave master begins a project of saying, okay, before I put the male
and female back together again, let's look at all the options here . Should there be other parts
included in this project? And that's the conclusion, yeah, there should be . There should be the
part that reboots it, which is the media, reboots the program all the time.

There should be the part that pulls the reins  ⇢ Neanderthaler. There should be the part that
communicates ⇢ Telus. There should be the part that communicates 24-7 ⇢ high-speed. There
should be the male structure and the female appearance, all in a pod , and all able to make
duplicates of itself. Now, do you want it to be exactly like the female is today on the outside, or
you really would you like to get even with the female?


Jerd: I think they did a long time ago.

Glen: The Barbie doll tells you how they plan to get even.

Jerd: What, the name Barbie?

Glen: No. No genitals; the feelings, but no way to do anything about it . That's misery.
That's really miserable. Now, when you look at this entire recipe, you have to conclude
that the Neanderthaler is no longer in charge, because he's being treated as an equal to
the male-female and being shipped off into the universe. So, you have to conclude that the
computer has taken over, that “Hal” is “Hell”, that Hal is running the show.

The s avant parts of all the brains working together have taken over . As a chemical
computer, it has no need of anything that humans consider needs, and it's quite happy running
the entire process by manufacturing task-specific slaves. Cro-Magnon for Africa prior to the Ice
Age, Roma after the Ice Age, and then testing the different races to figure out exactly what the
mix should be, working out that tan will be the color of the extremes mixed together  ⇢ black
and white.

You have to believe that slavery was basically intended for that purpose. It was not to use black
people as animals in a slave market, but it was to bring them in contact with white people,
knowing that what happens always happens . The master will take advantage, the sons of the
master will take advantage, there will be revenge, there will be rapes, there will be all kinds of
things, and in the end, you get the mixture called “mulatto”.

Jerd: That’s what they wanted. That was the goal all along.

Glen: So, all of these things are suggestive that somebody is in charge, and at the beginning, it's
obvious that it starts with Neanderthaler, but at the end, it's not so certain that Neanderthaler
is not just being treated like anything else. A unit put in to do a task-specific job within each of
these peas in a pod . So, the only conclusion one can arrive at is that the computer has looked
at the life of bees and has seen the task-specific roles.

The worker bee is a female , the drone is basically the male whose only task is to inseminate
females, and the queen's only task is to make babies for next year, and at the end of the season
in a beehive, the drones are kicked out to freeze to death over the wintertime, and the queen's
kicked out. The females gather in a bunch and stay in the hive, keeping the pupa warm enough
so that in the springtime, the cycle begins again.  New female workers are born.  New drones
(males) are born to inseminate , and few of the females are kept separate, whose pupa will be
given royal jelly, and the first one that pops out is made queen.

She'll be laying eggs all summer, while the other ones that haven't arrived yet are killed and
thrown out, and the process begins again.  The key word in all of those things is  “drone” ⇢
doctored one ⇢ Dr-one. Drone is used in the word “hadron collider”. “H”, the “A” can be an “E”
that goes at the end  ⇢ dron| drone,| drone collider. But it's also used in the group that joins
Canada and the U.S. together, Colorado. [Norad - drone]

Jerd: When I look at this Glen, I see these people, these groups, they really, they truly emulate
nature and they use it for the ir benefit at all levels.  Every level I see how anything that you
consider nature, they thought about that and use that. Like logic, everything.





Glen: It was all known, it was all written, it was all practiced  long before the ice age , (the last
ice age, the last of four ice ages) so that means all before 24,000 BCE.  There's nothing new, the
only thing they had not experienced was space flight , and that was the reason for making
people with RAM memory. It's all linked to the word “shit” in French, “merde”. Merde | RAM
| de ⇢ Deutsche ⇢ de in French ⇢ “from”. So, you have to think of it, the plan is based upon
the digestive system in the human body. It's a journey that ends up as shit ⇢ as the penultimate
⇢ second last ⇢ number two.

Jerd: This is anatomy right here, how the human body works.

Glen: And “T”, the final step.

Jerd: That's another thing I forgot to tell you.  That allegory about King Solomon, they call him
wisdom because it's in the east.

Glen: He's the stupidest bastard in the whole world . Solomon was basically building a temple
when his dad had already built a tunnel underneath, so that anything he put in the vault would
be stolen. I mean, how can you call that smart?

Jerd: But I think the whole allegory of them building the temple was actually another allegory of
them working on humanity.

Glen: Of course, and it's pointing the finger again at Neanderthal er being so smart, but yet so
stupid. The Neanderthaler is being suckered every step of the way in the same way as the
Neanderthaler is suckering men , and men are suckering women . Everyone is thinking they're
retrieving power from the other one, while in the end, it's the computer that wins it all.

Jerd: So, it's like we're all going to go.

Glen: Yeah. That's why we need to have this meeting of the minds to define how we can get
through to the Neanderthaler.

Jerd: How can you get through?

Glen: So, every step of the way, it has to be made clear to each participant that they're not
going to survive this.

Jerd: But how can you get through to the Neanderthaler?

Glen: Well, through the system they've set up. You  gotta back it up. It's like reverse engineering.
They engineered it through secret societies.  We have to re-engineer it backwards, back down
to the Neanderthaler who is the penultimate position  before the computer  going in that
direction.


So, we have to get the word out that no priest wins. No religious community wins. No political
community wins. No financial community wins. No Neanderthaler wins. No males, no females.
No media. Nobody in the line of things created by the genetic engineering process survives as
the master. The master becomes a machine.

Jerd: Yeah, in freemasonry maybe you could get through to some of them , because  in
freemasonry, supposedly, the goal is to attain truth, and that's what they say.

Glen: Well, that's what they say. Do they really believe it? Absolutely not.

Jerd: I'm saying the people who follow it, they probably really believe that.

Glen: Well, I don't know, because the people who follow it don't have an opinion of their own.
They wait to be told by the system what their opinion should be , and they flock to that new
opinion, whatever it is.

Jerd: They don't read the literature that their own institution puts out?

Glen: No, obviously not.

Jerd: Wow.

Glen: They're greedy, and the greed overrides everything.

Jerd: And that’s why they’re up there too.

Glen: They are accumulators, and they are greedy, and they are misers,
and that process makes them control freaks. It's really a pity, because
they obviously don't read what they themselves put out. They certainly
don't act like they believe it.  They don't want the betterment of
mankind. Look at how quickly Google and Yahoo can make a bunch of
people who claim to be seekers switch sides without even looking into the
details of things on the net.  I mean, it's amazing to watch how they can
manipulate people who supposedly are thinkers.

Jerd: Let me tell you something about this whole thinker movement, or whatever. These guys are
exactly what they talk about. They're just like the rest of the masses to me. It's the same thing to
me.

Glen: Absolutely.

Jerd: I'm so sick and tired of that word that they use, oh, truth, truth this, and freedom, and they
don't even know what these terms mean.  It's all relative, these terms, I know , but they don't
actually analyze what that word actually means and actually think about it. It just gets me.

Glen: They're short-term people. Short-term people are looking for instant gratification.

Jerd: Yes.

Glen: And give me a contract, give me money, give me a position of power, put me on the news,
that bullshit stuff. That's not what it's all about , you're here to learn . You're here to basically
learn it one step at a time and have it completely under your control before you move to the
next step, and the next step, so that everything is overstood. You're dealing with facts not as if
they're happening to you, but as if you were having an out -of-body experience looking down
at all of the things you overstand.

Without having the Jesuit aspect of ver stand; having a predetermined outcome. When you're
overstanding, you're not caring about what the outcome will be because you're not supposed
to know the outcome until you've been through the process of overstanding everything . You
can't prejudge the outcome. You must see it with your own eyes and listen with your own ears.

Jerd: Yeah, I'm still on this thing of learning and overstanding.  So, when people ask me … I can
conclude that there's a lot more to everything, but I can't conclude because I don't know the
whole thing.

Glen: Absolutely. How can you conclude with the information that you have?  The only
information that you have, has allowed you to discard a whole bunch of possibilities, but you
don't know the final yet because you're not there yet . The only thing you've learned is that
there are more things to learn.

Jerd: I realize how much I don't know just looking at it.  When I go out and I'm really analyzing
now, I look at nature, and I'm looking at the plants dying and just analyzing this and why they held
all these things in nature, like in Freemasonry, why they held these things in high regard, these
things. Just watching how the sun comes up and all the birds singing.  That's where they got the
concept that everybody rejoiced when Jesus was... because that's what happens when the sun
comes up. It's all the animals and stuff and rejoice and whatever.

Glen: Imagine what happens when two suns come up.

Jerd: It would be really hot.

Glen: Hehe, yeah. Too hot to be around.

Jerd: It's good to be underground though.

Glen: That's a principle that struck me because when I started on this, I had absolutely no doubt
that this planet is not able to survive any more than any other planet. At one stage of the game,
it has to be dead because the conditions that make it alive will not exist anymore. The sun will
have shrunken as it burns itself to death.


But I figured, hey, that's a couple of billion years from today and not something you need to really
worry about, and why are these people worrying about it as if it's going to happen tomorrow?
And then you find out about Alderamin being a second sun, and it's going to be around not in
a few billion years but in a few thousand years. But it's not going to be permanent like the sun
dying, it's going to be a thing in passing. Ten thousand years or whatever, may sound like a long
time to us, but in the context of the universe, it's peanuts. But you gotta think about (if you plan
on living pas sed that ten thousand years ) what do you have to do in order to survive that , and
there's only one place on the planet that you can survive.

Jerd: Not everybody on the planet can live there, right?

Glen: That's right. So, what do you do?  You ship off as many people as you can on one -way
journeys in the universe so that they are basically traveling and discovering and communicating
while you cannot be on the surface, while the temperature is too hot for people to be on the
surface. So, that's basically their plan. Makes a lot of sense in the context that people are going
to die anyways. What's the best that you can do in the future for the people on the planet, and
that's to get them out of the way. Now, do you really want to get them out of the way by turning
them into pseudo-hermaphrodites becomes the question.

Or wouldn't it be better for the people on the planet to leave the planet as genders rather than
as pseudo -hermaphrodites? Genders are more intelligent.  They're more living than robotic .
That's basically the lessons learned on Earth is that if you have a clan and it becomes too big,
divide it into smaller groups, and then you find out that the brain of those people who marry
far apart gets bigger and better than the ones who live closer together.

Jerd: I was explaining this to my friend, like how when I caught this scabies thing and I was reading
about it. It's funny because you find out that the female, they basically burrow under the skin and
make eggs and lay, and the males go on the surface. That's like a clan society. Just looking at that
one little aspect of nature is crazy. I learned so much.

Glen: Do we want to be drones is the question.

Jerd: I don't want to be.

Glen: Do we want to be so specific in life that we only have one task?  Or isn't the variety of
different things much more interesting in a lifetime?

Jerd: I like the individuality aspect. I like that concept, just being able to make my own decisions.





Glen: Sure, and change over time . They're asking us to become toll booth operators ; sit in a
chair and watch people throw quarters.  That doesn't sound like an interesting life . So that's
basically the question , but we're only two people, and  you have to have those 13 offering
opinions. There certainly has to be 13 people in the world that have an opinion that really
matters to Creation.

Jerd: I know those people out there. I see people who can grasp this thing, and that's probably a
sign. You said that your block came here so many times. They had to have done that before. I'm
starting to really feel that way, and that's the main doctrine I see in Freemasonry, it's immortality
of the soul. They always come back to that.

Glen: And that just means DNA.

Jerd: Yeah. But these priests, because they're obviously closer to the truth than, on the lower end
of the scale. Don't they know there's something bigger than this HAL that they're serving?

Glen: Yeah, but why do they basically make sexual abuse such a large part of their lives?  Isn't
that childlike?  Isn't that instant gratification type of thing where they're claiming just the
opposite? Isn't the entire process of religion a symbol of hypocrisy? Don't do as I do, do as I say
type of thing.

Jerd: Yeah. That's interesting. It reminds me of a movie I was watching parts of. It's called 10,000
BCE, and  it takes place with these mammoth hunters. The movie I thought was kind of horrible,
because it was so fake of how it really was. They show kind of a clan, but it's all males and it's like
two females. One female who runs everything.

Glen: That's after the Ice Age. 10,000 BCE is after the Ice Age. The ice started melting at 16,000
BCE. So, to get the real clan mother, you gotta go past 24,000 BCE

Jerd: And you think you'll find that in mythologies?

Glen: Yeah. I mean, it's all there. You're basically looking at the pieces when you're looking at
Hindu or Chinese or Persian . But you're looking at the bigger picture when you're looking at
Norse mythology, because the word  “Norse” is just “ruse”; it's the mythology based upon a
ruse, a trick. The question is, whose trick, is it? And to us, when we start the project and look
at this, it looks like a freemasonry trick. But in the end, you start saying, well, wait a minute ,
masons, yeah, but they have bosses.

Their bosses are ecclesiastics , they're religious people, so it must be an ecclesiastic ruse , and
then you say, oh, wait a minute, they have bosses and their bosses are Neanderthalers. Must
be a Neanderthal er ruse. But w hen you identify Neanderthal ers as being idiot savants ,
(equivalent to Stephen Hawking) they can't do anything on their own.

Jerd: So, it’s that other part that’s running it.


Glen: Yeah. There has to be a place where all that genius comes together and gives the orders,
and the only answer to that is computer, HAL, HAL's baby in 2001 in Space Odyssey.

Jerd: Yeah, but when you look at how the Freemasonry works and stuff, you can see, because
Masons are workmen, that's what they do, and they show you their system symbolically. When
they built up these cathedrals, because it's the masons that build it, but it's the architects that's
giving them the orders. So obviously there's a grand architect somewhere.

Glen: Yeah, but there are two divisions, Cain and Abel. Cain is the builder.

Jerd: Yeah, t hey tried splitting it up . They said it was Primitive Freemasonry and Spurious
Freemasonry. One that went under the Cain's bloodline basically , and another one that went
under Noah.

Glen: Yeah, well, the priests are like Abel, they don't work, they're the media, they're the artists.
While the workers are building the infrastructure of things that Abel uses after it's built. So, it's
very much like the concept of the honey guide. The honey guide needs infrastructure because
it can't work without infrastructure.

But it can't do the things that are needed to build it, or as the honey guide, to destroy in order
to build. So, the honey guide bird basically finds the beehive, sits on top, and yells, there's one
here, one here! And the animals that have the power to break into the beehive, the bears and
the wolverines and those, they come over and they knock the whole place to smithereens ,
interested in only one thing.

Jerd: The honey.

Glen: Honey. While the builders are waiting for the wax. The wax is the infrastructure, and much
more important in the long run than the honey, which is instant gratification. So, Cain is linked
to instant gratification.

Jerd: Yeah, that's what they were saying, Cain and his descendants. It said there was the virtuous
race of Seth and his descendants, and the wicked one of Cain. So, they're trying to say that there's
a good masonry and a bad masonry, but it's just two sides of the same coin.  Do the people in
Freemasonry actually believe this?

Glen: They just have different needs. Abel is looking for long-term stuff. Cain is looking for
immediacy.

Jerd: But they all work together with each other.

Glen: Well, not quite. They follow instructions from each other. The priests are basically ruling
the show without doing the work, and keeping records.


Jerd: So, it's really the priest somehow?

Glen: The priest is basically the unit that has contact going backwards in time with the
Neanderthaler. But the priest has two divisions, and that's why he created marriage . One
division is the priest and the religious people who control, and the other division is the spy he
sends out to live in the community . The spy is the woman he created that is not woman , but
that will go beyond the walls of the castle and report back what's happening on the other side.

Jerd: It's interesting when you look up the definition of a woman.  Basically, it's a servant, they
say. It's a servant, a female servant.  When you look at the definition of a man, it's like all these
great things.

Glen: And all of these things about this woman is linked to the word “iron”, and iron is linked
to what used to happen in Turkey, which was the center of iron works, and that was where the
Trojans were. But the word “iron” basically is telling you this is a beginning, not an end, because
iron does not solve the problem. You gotta get it upgraded every step of the way.

Jerd: That's nature though, right?

Glen: Yeah, that's how nature does it, so that's how they have to do it , and it’s how do you
improve the woman structure, is you basically have to kill it and make it reborn with different
DNA recombined in there to change the structure . So recombinant DNA brings you the steps
you need to end up with this final product, which is the  “BELT” ⇢ to them means hardened
stone ⇢ that is male, female, Neanderthaler, communications, media, high speed, all in a pod
going off into the universe. That's their final product, and they call it  “chrome”, and it's linked
to the word “roam” [Rome].



Jerd: Cro-Magnon.

Glen: And all of that is linked, well, to the automated system looking at things ⇢ “drone”. Drone
- Rome | Dr - ome.

Jerd: That stone that you mentioned, from what I can see , this is a pillar of stone that's been
passed from Abraham through all the patriarchs, and they said it was placed in Mount Moriah or
something like that. Is that supposed to be where you're at, Mount Moriah? Where it was?


Glen: Moriah ⇢ Roma | One Roma. It doesn't mean a mountain as much as process. Process on
its way to being a drone. Flies over, sees everything ⇢ Hadron ⇢ drone. The name of that gang
up in Colorado, the Norad, it's drone. It's all about drones  ⇢ A male hidden that can see
everything, but it has no eyes , its eyes are female. On the outside towards the inside, you get
the changes, and the highest level of iron is chrome . That's because you mix in a little nickel,
that keeps it from rusting, makes it harder and shinier. Nickel is linked to Santa Claus ⇢ Nick ⇢
Saint Nick, and it's also David Icke.

Jerd: Dyke ⇢ Redirects the water.

Glen: Yeah, and Ike Eisenhower.

Jerd: I'I saw the movie for the books that you recommended to me. I haven't read them, but I saw
two of them; The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, and Prince Caspian.  Whoa, the symbolism
and the allegories I'm reading.  But in all these movies, like the Matrix, they always have the
sacrifice, and it has to be willing.  That's a big part of it , it has to be a willing sacrifice.  Is this
symbolic of how Neanderthalers sacrificed their genius?

Glen: Yeah. They give up what they had to the process to make it happen, because they think
this is better. That's why you got Obama yelling, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can! Well, what
are you canning? Canning peas. That's why the English language is so funny, is that there are
different meanings, and the people are listening with a sense of hearing that's been fabricated
in their head, that they don't see the second meaning . That they're going to be the ones who
are sacrificed in order that a new [version] of humanity can live.

Jerd: Well, I feel bad . It’s like what they said, let the dead bury the dead, because I really can't
even help those people, I can't help them.

Glen: Well, alone no one can. But a critical mass can clean up a critical mess.

Jerd: They only respect what everybody else is saying, they never respect what the individual is
saying.

Glen: Because the controllers of information are the media, the Googles and the Yahoos of the
world, and they're linked to the beginning of all of this if you trace it back to Antarctica. I guess
the second last place would be around New Zealand . New Zealand creates its mirror image in
the north  ⇢ Zeeland ⇢ that's Holland ⇢ the Zuiderzee ⇢ place of dams . ⇢ So, it's the ball
being batted from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere while they do their
thing. Hang on just a second. Sorry about that, I had to let the dog out.

Jerd: Was he nibbling at you?

Glen:  It needed to go.


Jerd: Oh, it needed to go relieve himself.

Glen: This is the most important project anyone could undertake in an entire lifetime . There's
nothing more important than learning what is really going on . What's this journey all about ?
Then bringing that experience back at the end of one's life to Creation and say, my gift to you
is experience. I know you have the knowledge , now you have the experience . You remember
with Creation and move on. Creation doesn't end with the end of this universe, it’s forever.

Jerd:  I was looking up what they say about the big bang ,  and they said it was an atom or
something like that. Is that another interpretation when they talk about the “idea”?

Glen: The problem they are having now with the big bang is that in the fraction of a second
immediately following the big bang , things changed, and  everything that's been laid out by
people like Einstein, Stephen Hawking, and everybody else in there, has a unified theory of the
universe that works until that last fraction of a second where it doesn't seem to work , and it's
all based upon gravity . And that's because at that particular moment in time there was a
massive change that occurred by quarks jumping from one bag into another , changing the
combination and starting something new, so the things that exist now, did not exist before.

And if you knew what existed before , you would know what's going to happen in the future ,
and t hat's the whole problem that they're having , and a t the same time, it's a gift of
understanding or overstanding that one receives when one knows that at the basis of all of this,
is how these quarks are contained within a hadron or a bag as they call it, and are not seen until
they jump from one place to another . That's the test they're trying to do with the collider , is
photograph the quarks jumping from one bag to another, when two bags collide and are
destroyed. Because you can't destroy quarks , parts of an atom, they're just remaking
themselves under a different set of circumstances.

Jerd: Do you think we'll ever really know or ever really be sure how it all gets going?

Glen: We will know when we find the plate. The answers are on that plate . It was known to
people before the ice age, and the knowledge of how you do that means that you will be able
to advance science- well, think of how things have changed since 1750 to now , as compared to
from the ice age to 1750. It's a multiple number. Fantastic amount of change has occurred. Well,
much, much more than that can happen in the world of knowledge , and how things can be
made to work for people instead of against people once you have that basic knowledge which
is hidden.

Once you find that plate, it's the same thing as like the Mormons got the other half of the plate
of how DNA functions. A very, very important piece of information, but used badly by people
in order to control. Whereas the front part would, I suspect, tell you how you use science for
the betterment of things, not for control. That's what I think lies underground here.

Jerd: I have a lot to learn man.


Glen: You're only in your, what, 20s?

Jerd: Yeah. For me, it's like this , I'm learning all of this, and I call you up , and you just bombard
me.  I mean, you're filling a lot of gaps.

Glen:  I'm a child in the universe. There isn't enough time in a lifetime to learn this . What you
are basically being given is a jumpstart. So, you’ve saved yourself the journey through a number
of lifetimes, and you now arrive at a position which is further ahead at your age, than I was.

Jerd:  Do you think Creation did that?

Glen: Yeah. Creation, after all, can shut the computer down without our assistance , but this is
all an experiment , learning and experience . So, it's letting it happen until it decides that the
lessons have all been learned. Computer is not going to win against Creation. It can win against
genius, like Neanderthaler. It can win against control mechanisms , like religion, politics, and
money, and all of that stuff.

But it can't beat Creation. Creation was here before the big bang, will be here after this universe
has been done with, and Creation can be running more than one universe at one time. It's only
us that's at stake . Do we prove ourselves worthy of remembering with Creation? Or does
Creation look and say, nothing here worth saving, shut it down, period.

Jerd: So how about those few people out there who are worth saving ?  Do they just throw the
baby out with the bath water?

Glen: Find them. That's your critical mass. A task that seems so simple until you try and you run
across people who are basically hypocrites, and pretend that they're one thing , then prove to
be just the opposite. It’s the allegory of Jesus at the crucifixion, and all the disciples that when
it comes down to the crunch, not there.

Jerd: People talk the talk but don't walk the walk . That's what I see, like people who follow Alex
Jones. I watched a n interesting movie called Scanner Darkly . Alex Jones  has a little part in the
movie. If you see that guy in a movie, they're telling you, yeah, he’s working for the system.

Glen:  Absolutely, hey when Google put me on it scared me , because I knew they had to have a
plan.

Jerd: I put you on Google.

Glen:  Yeah, but they could have taken it off in a second.

Jerd:  But I really don't see that happening. If you were to mention a gun or something then they’d
do that.

Glen: No, they did. They had to have a meeting . I've been told by a number of people on the
second day or third day, everything but the third disc disappeared.

Jerd: This is what happened. The way I uploaded it, I messed up. It would overwrite the first one
and then it would be the second one. Then I'd put the second one and overwrite the second one.
So, I redid it all over again and now it’s that's all on there.

Glen: That was done over two or three days?

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: Ok that explains that.

Jerd: That was my mistake.

Glen: What they've done recently, what Danea called me up and told me about there , was that
they've now orchestrated it all so that I'm now being lumped in with Alan Watt, Alex Jones and
all of those things. Which was what their plan was in the first place.

Jerd: You are lumped in.  Every time I hear your name it's associated with Alan Watts’ name.

Glen: So that was his purpose at the beginning . He was to find out from me what I was saying
so that he could say it , then be discredited , and then bring me along so that I could be
discredited too, and the only way they can discredit me is by lying because there is nothing that
I have said that they don't know. It resides in their own DNA so, hey, it's the system working its
way. And when I thought the system wasn't functioning, I thought I had missed something .
Now I feel much more secure, because they've done my job for me, they've taken away those
people that I didn't want in the first place, and that they were going to send to me.

Now they're not coming, those people, so they've solved my problem without me having to do
anything. What I need is leaders and leaders are not people who carry an army of followers .
Leaders are people who can think for themselves , don't need to be told what to think . They
listen, they hear, they compute , they decide , they make decisions . Those decisions are not
based upon somebody coming later on and saying oh, no don't do this.

Jerd: I know what you mean. I see a lot of people saying the same things. The decisions I'm making
are from what I can see myself. It's not a popular decision.

Glen: I know, I can tell, and there are some people who've called me who have, obviously, some
physical problems, but I can tell . You don't need to be an orator in order to think . It's the
opposite, you need to shut up , and hear and compute . So, the 13 can be out there , can be
assembled. I don't know how many it will take before Creation says we have it, but I have a few
ideas about how we find out whether we're getting close or not . Those kinds of things will be
discussed “here” when people have taken the trouble of getting here.

Jerd: I'm getting better at , I guess, orating to people. It's weird, I'm getting emails from people
offering to be part of a project . I'm just real sketchy about things like that , when I get attention
like that.

Glen: You should see my email box. I've won every contest a million times. I've got all this money
waiting for me. I just delete, delete, delete. I told them if they want to send me some money ,
there's only one way to do it. Bell Canada stole my project from me and by now with interest,
it would be worth about fifty million dollars. Well, since they stole it, and if they want to make
amends, write a check for fifty million dollars . But if you if you don't want to write a check ,
because that will assume to other people that you're guilty of something, and you're now
making amends, since you control the lottery, send it to me through the lottery, I don't care.

You steal it and better you give it to me and I'll give it back to the people then you're keeping it
for your dastardly deeds that you do at Bell and Shell Oil, those places. So, Creation, however,
has its ways, and its ways doesn’t need Bell Canada or Shell Oil, in order to make things happen,
and it doesn't even need money. It can make things happen through an exchange of goods and
services. 13 people can provide the ideas necessary and bring about the goods and services
that are required. I would rather not see one cent and make things happen anyways. Money is
only the tool that's supposed to make it easier to make things happen. It's the things happening
I want to see. Money is only an intermediary, and the 13 people thinking together will have the
right ideas.

Jerd: Yeah, I've heard people say they get scared of that 13. One guy on the computer said oh,
he’s trying to be like Jesus Christ, it's a cult.

Glen: I don't know how one would try to be like Jesus Christ , since Jesus Christ is an allegory to
all of us. All of us are already being crucified.

Jerd: I guess we are like Jesus Christ, all of us. I’d say it’s a concept because this person obviously
doesn't know…..

Glen: Doesn't know physics. Doesn't understand science.

Jerd: Hasn't really looked into the clan structure and how that worked. For me it’s a concept. It's
not just thirteen people , it’s thirteen people around you , it’s thirteen  people around me, it’s
thirteen people around the next person, and it keeps going.

Glen: It's a scientific explanation about how you provide perfect security for a project. Circle it
with 13, things that cover all of the spaces from which the project could be attacked . That
requires 13 minds. I don't care if the bodies don't come , hehe, it's the minds we need , and I
suspect I know where there are some minds. Part of what needs to be done is to facilitate their
ability to get around, because people with functioning brains are not usually in the same place
as people with money . In order to move around they need assistance , so if money was
available, it would only be to provide it to those people whose brains you need.

Since you don't know for certain by picking out 13, what you have to do is probably gather a
group larger than 13, and let Creation pick out who are the real thirteen and who are not. That's
not a job that we can do . We can lower the odds by bringing together a group of people .
Creation is the only one who can decide who passes the test.

Many people in the past have been given resources in order to achieve Creation's goals, but
chose instead to use the resources for their own purposes. Instant gratification or the life of a
miser, both were counter to the reason they were given the resources . Creation knows the
difference between people who say something and mean it and others who say it for personal
gain. In any event it is time for me to go to bed.

Jerd: I sleep pretty late now. I go to sleep really when the sun comes up . I went on the internet
last night before I went to sleep and I saw you making a post at like 5 or 6 in the morning. You're
up pretty early man.

Glen: Well, I've already done the research through the encyclopedias and stuff like that before
then so, I start sometime between 2 and 4 usually. Work my way through to the point where I'm
about to post, and then Bell Canada screws up my computer, shuts off the line, won't allow my
modem to dial in, and all these little nasty-

Jerd: Making your life tough.

Glen: That's ok, that's their job. We can't all be stupid . There needs to be some stupid people .
Okay?

Jerd: Alright Glen

Glen: Talk to you again.

Jerd: Ok, bye.