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Electro-Magnetism - June 2014

Glen: Sorry about that.

Danea: I figured I’d give you a little time to eat, hehe.

Glen: Hehe, yeah, and how are you?

Danea: Hanging in there. Trying to stay above water.

Glen: That's good. How’s Jerd? I saw that he called as well, but I wasn't available at the time he
called the last time.

Danea: He's doing well, I guess. He had his birthday a few weeks ago. We're all getting old.

Glen: Well, let's hope that the electric company allows us to get old.  Because, as you know, I've
been working on a project of trying to figure out what's going on under this house.  Discovered
earlier in the year that a number of things had happened in the house over the period of time
we've been here and before, that are linked to charges of electricity coming into the house, and
a magnetic field being created along the side, and under the house.

Which before we moved here, two people who had lived in the house , died here. They weren't
really old people, more in their 60s, I believe. One birth here resulted in a mental handicap. [We]
started doing some research on electromagnetism , and a guy by the name of Michael Faraday,
dating back to the late 1700s, the early 1800s. I guess he basically did most of his experiments in
about 1833.

I had the Cell come over; they brought a magnetometer, checked out the side of the house, and
said that there was a magnetic field, that could in fact explain the interference with things that
occurred inside the house, including people who lived here for a long time. Apparently, you can
have an interference with the neurons in your body ; everything that deals with an electrical
kind of circuit within the body can be interfered with by a magnetic field.

If you park a vehicle, as I always had next to the house, that could interfere with magnetic
activity. The starter on the truck, for example, failed to start three or four times in the last couple
of years, and I had to have the truck towed to Canadian Tire , and pay $150 for the towing. They
would make it work but not tell me what had in fact happened.  A magnetic field can affect the
starter, I'm told, the part called metal that's in there.

But we've had a lot of things, like the big screen TV has failed. The TV was an old one dating back
to the 1990s, but it failed in a strange manner, and half the screen is on, the other half is not on.
We bought a washing machine last year to replace the one that died in the basement, and all of
a sudden, it stopped in the middle of an operation with clothes being washed in it, and you can't
get the thing to start up again.


The door lock, which is operated by a magnet, was locked in position, and never got to be able to
start it up again. Finally, pried the door open long enough to get the clothes out, but as soon as I
shut it, it locks again and the machine doesn't work. The taxi driver that took me to the feed store,
said that the same thing happened to him , and he lives two blocks from here. So, as I'm digging
underneath, first of all, I had to get underneath the stairs that lead out of the basement.

Four feet down, came across an iron rod, and a wire leading from the iron rod, into the concrete
wall of the house, and on the inside linked to the ground. Which of course, anybody will tell you
these days, that that's the way it's supposed to be . That y ou ground everything in the house ,
because your hydro company sends surcharges, and if the surcharge has no place to get out of
the house, it can break some of the appliances and [inaudible] that kind of stuff that you have in
the house.

But these things were happening in the house with the connection on there. It became with the
Cell, a question of what's activating this two -way street that they could find with the
magnetometer. Not only did you get surcharges going down, but you also got charges coming
up through the same system. It's linked as well, to the telephone lines from everything that's
apparent. Which basically means it's taking the magnetic field into the house itself . Whoever
built this place in 1972 did a couple of things that are really strange.

One of them is that the house has sections of it that are modeled on “Tudor” homes back in
England and Scotland , many years ago.  A Tudor design is also a coding network , that if you
understand it, you can read different situations that you might have to be dealing with through
this Tudor design . The second thing is the attic, unlike all attics I've ever seen, which are
basically one space, is divided with walls to enclose the area under the three rooms that are
below it.

As if somebody didn't want any interference of things happening from one section to the other.
The ceiling is built out of Styrofoam, and that wouldn't make any sense, but I'm told that with a
magnetic field, it acts as a container , that if one is sitting below it, you're in fact sitting in a
magnetic field that has no way of moving away from the space you're in. I know that over time
here, I've developed hamstring or hip problems overnight, from one day to the next, that caused
me to have to hobble around for about a month, until it kind of went away.

Then about four or five years ago, the beginning of a hernia, which has basically caused a major
problem in my stomach, scrotum and whatever. When you read Faraday, and the experiments
he was doing, this kind of illness , or muscular, or neurology problems, seem to pop up in the
people who are working on the experiments, including himself . Which includes things like
Alzheimer's, or senility, or heart attack, or lung problems . Anything that requires muscular
activity, like the brain , the heart , and the lungs , to make things happen , are basically small
electric charges that cause them to occur.




So, I was digging down, four feet of earth pulled out from under the stairwell, to be even with the
driveway, and then see this rod popping up. Then I keep on digging a foot down, two feet down,
try to budge the thing, and it just won't move at all. The rod is a steel rod, the diameter of which
would equal, say, a nickel. It had the connection for the wire on top that leads to the power supply
in the house, that kind of stuff.

Danea: Do you have a lightning rod as well?

Glen: No, there's no lightning rod.  Apparently, they don't put
lightning rods on houses anymore. They don't even put a rod as
a ground anymore.  They've replaced it with what they call a
“plate”, which is a kind of a rectangular steel flat plate , with a
connection for the wire that comes from indoors. So, I got down
two feet, can't budge it, tried to pull it out using the truck when
I had the truck.

It wouldn't budge; the truck wasn't able to make it move at all.  If it had been just a rod kind of
nailed or hammered into the ground, it could have just as well come out in the same way that it
went in. Of course, you're dealing at this time of the year with water as well.  Jennifer came by
one day and said something about, it's like you’re King Arthur trying to pull the sword out of the
ground. It doesn't come out. You've got to find the right person to be able to pull it out.

Danea: You think it might have legs?

Glen: Every day I kept digging, digging down, and I had to remove the concrete slate that had
been the top of the stairwell, so it wouldn't fall on my head. [I] noticed that standing in the hole,
looking at the rod, it had been put in on an angle. The angle that it was on would lead to the edge
of the house, and a space beside the large concrete kind of patio stone , that was the top of the
stairwell, in a kind of a patio on the outside , pointing directly at the window that leads to the
basement. The wire of course, would run from the pole to the house, and along the wall, then in
at the place where the power supply comes from.

Danea: Didn't you have, a couple years ago, you kept hearing banging underneath your property?

Glen: Many of the people who've come here , and have stayed here, have made comments that
they could hear noises during the night. Megan, whose RV is parked next to the house, also said
that she would hear noises. The Cell asked me at one time, to go to the smaller room in the middle
on the ground floor, not the basement, and see if I could hear what they could hear. Sure enough,
there is a noise that is not always there, but when it is, it's in kind of segments of about 10
seconds, stops for about 5 seconds, starts up for 10 seconds, stops for about 5 seconds , so,
something down below.



Danea: What does it sound like exactly?

Glen: It sounds to me like a conveyor. I don't know if that would be, but it sounds to me like what
I heard in my younger days when I'd go to the beer store. At the beer store in Canada, you don't
buy beer at the grocery store , you have to go to a beer store.  So, all they have is cases of beer
with bottles in the back, and then they take the order. They shove the case on a conveyor, and it
comes out next to the cache, and you pick up your beer like that, and the noise sounds like that.

Danea: It sounds like something on a timer.  I actually live on top of the water boiler for my
apartment, and it's quiet for about 15, 20 seconds, and then it kicks on for a minute or two.  I
guess whenever the temperature drops, it kicks back on. It reminds me of that.

Glen: In an apartment, it would be an ongoing process almost of on and off, on and off, because
there are a lot of people accessing it. In any event, I got down to about four feet, and I could see
that I could push four feet of the rod, and it would bend a little bit . Then it would work its way
back to its original place, which gave me a hint that I was close to whatever it was that was holding
it in place.

I kept on digging, and the area that I have to dig is very difficult to work in. There has to be a clay
of some particular sort in there, that is hard like cement. Because I'm using a full-size pickaxe, and
only chipping it away a little bit at a time and gathering it up, putting it in pails and taking it out.
Really hard stuff, but when the water hits it, it granulates, not very deep at any one time, but just
the part that's touching the water.

Eventually, I understood when I began, it was wintertime, and it never granulated until water
touched it, and then I could dig about a half an inch when it was granulated. Whereas, when there
was no water, it was hard as hell. I found rocks; they remind me of meteors. They're made up of
a lot of small rocks all stuck together. I found some that are about plate size or larger, like a waiter's
tray or something like that, and have put them out in front of the garage, and when it rained, the
damn things melted.

All the little granules are there, but they're not made into a big rock anymore, so it's like a meteor
going by the sun, and it breaks down. In any event, about three weeks ago, I was at five feet, and
I met the guy, five feet plus the four feet , that was earth on top, so getting close to about nine
feet into the ground.  I met the guy who used to date the  young woman that lived here at the
time, and they were next-door neighbors for a while.

He doesn't live there anymore, but he comes there, and he said, oh, no, what you have is just a
rod for grounding. He said, I have two on my own house ; they're 16 feet long.  I said, 16 feet ?
That's almost two stories. It doesn't make any sense. How could anybody hammer into the ground
a 16 -foot rod?  You'd have to be standing on a balcony coming down, and I'm not sure that
anything you do at the top would have much of an effect on the bottom of it.

Danea: Also, it's thin, too, right? It's very thin, you said.


Glen: Five cents. So, I kept on digging, I'm at five feet, it's getting dark, and I'm pulling on it, trying
to bend it, to see how far it can bend without finding out what the hell is holding it, and I just
can't move the thing. So, I leave it until the next morning.  Then I get down in the hole the next
morning, and I put my hand on it, and I almost fell over with it. It just pulls out of the ground, and
it had—it was six feet long. It just pulled out with my hand. Because it wasn't raining or anything,
the only thing I can think of is somebody shut the magnet off . That would also, by the way,
explain King Arthur's.

Danea: Hehe, yeah.

Glen: Everybody's trying to pull it out while the magnets on. You never get it to move, but
somebody shuts the magnet off, and it just slips out . So, I'm looking at it, and I have this thin
rod, placed on a 70-degree angle, six foot long, and the part that's in the ground is pointed. I start
to think about what did I see recently.  I saw a program about lightning rods during the French
Revolution or something, that was on one of the Museum Secrets on TV, I think.

They said there are two things that attract lightning. One is something skinny and tall, and two is
something pointed.  So, an electrical circuit can be sent into the ground, but it can also be
extracted from the ground through a rod that is pointed . That's why they switched from rods
to plates. Today, they don't use rods as grounds. I spoke to a number of people in the electrical
business in Kemptville and stuff, and I bought one of the plates , just so I'd know what it is that
they were talking about.

So, we have a situation here, and you've probably seen it, unless you keep the sink and toilet very
clean with some special cleaning formula, you get yellowing from the water that comes out,
because unlike city water, country water has all the minerals in it. One of the minerals that's in it
is iron, and that's what would do the discoloration of marbles on sinks, toilets, and stuff like that.
So, you have to use a special cleaning solvent, and it kind of makes it disappear.

But I was sitting there thinking about all of this, and three or four times, hydro has shut off power
in the 14 years I've been here, long enough and in the right season, for water to rise in the sump
pump and be on. The pump not being on, the water would go onto the floor in the basement.  I
remember talking to Megan, who's one of the owners of the house, and saying, unlike in the city,
this is not a problem because the water is perfectly clear.

It's like washing your floor, rather than in the city, you might get sewage, and that's not a problem.
When they finally turn the power back on and the sump pump starts working, well, you just turn
on the furnace, the heaters, the blowers, and you let it dry out . You haven't done anything that
causes the normal problem of flooding, if it was water coming on land from rain on land , rather
than from water coming up from underground.





So never worried about it much, until I started thinking, hey, there's iron in the water. We know
that, because all water has some iron in it, and in the country, you're not dealing with any water
distillation by the municipality or anything.  There's iron in the water ; when it comes into the
house, lies six inches deep in the basement, then washes out, you believe that it's all gone.

However, any rug that's on the floor, that you've dried out, and happy to have had the opportunity
to wash them, you don't realize it, but what in fact you have in that rug is iron . That would
aggravate the effects that come from electromagnetism. Electromagnetism is so bad, that over
a period of a lifetime, say 60, 70, 80 years, it will create things like Alzheimer's , senility, lung
disease, cancers, heart attacks, and mental illness in babies that are born to mothers who've
lived in the house for a long time, that kind of stuff.

It's so bad that the President of the United States, who's in the process right now of replacing Air
Force One, have a number of stipulations that must occur before the plane is acceptable as Air
Force One. At the top of the list, is that it must be shielded from electromagnetism. So, what do
you do about a place that underground has what is known as the Canadian Shield?  As a ceiling
on your top floor is material designed to contain magnetism to the floors below.

You have the people who can vouch for the fact that they have suffered depression, or physical
hand manipulation problems. My fingers often lock in place and I have to pull on them with the
other hand to get it loose. Problems with the hip, and the muscles in the legs, so that I've spent,
at least on three or four occasions, a few months hobbling around, dragging my leg behind me.
So, all of these things seem to be directly related here to the Canadian Shield , and enhanced
and activated by the activities and wiring systems of Ontario Hydro and Bell Canada.

So, although the people around us are going to be saved from the Loo at the Soo, and any major
flood that would engulf the northern United States, and the southwestern end of the province of
Ontario, with all of the water coming from Lake Superior and the Great Lakes, running on land
in New York, down all the way to Flushing Meadows. Because we're not knowledgeable, because
it's not part of the education network, have believed that we would be free of that flood , and
therefore, safe, based upon the scientific theory called isostasy.

The more water runs on land, the more land in another place , has to be compensating in its
height, by moving upwards, so that the balance between land underwater and land above water,
is always in balance. While we have been telling each other that we're safe, the one thing we're
not safe from is electromagnetism. You add the fact that when the water runs out of the Great
Lakes, it runs past Canada's former nuclear collection , site and releases gases from that area
called radon. So, in the Bible when they talk about god saying he would never kill everyone on
earth with a flood again, it's because god had two more ways of killing them; one with gas and
one with electromagnetism.




I would suggest to you that the Ark of the Covenant is an
electromagnet, and that they don't carry it on poles by
accident. It's because they've been told they have to
stay a certain distance away from it , if they do that
carrying around for a long time. Don't forget that on top,
it's got something that looks like a pair of wings, which
could very well be the gap in the electrical current , that
when turned on by the magnet , would give the
appearance to those people , of a snake jumping across
from one to the other.

So, we're learning all kinds of lessons , and they
don't like me talking about it . Yet, I'll continue to
talk about it even at the expense of my health, if that's
what it takes to learn how they have controlled people . You've got to remember, that in the
time before the Ice Age , when the first religion was  concocted, I guess is the word, the name
that we give to that religion is “voodoo”.

Voodoo's principal element was that it could affect people at a distance , i.e. remote control.
The best way to control people at a distance physically, take a penny, put it on a sheet of paper,
put a magnet under the sheet of paper and move it around, you'll see the remote control is not
apparent to those looking down on it, but only to those looking up from underneath the sheet
of paper. So, electromagnetism is the principal means of direct remote control.

Mind you, once you've programmed the person, you can then control them remotely through
their head by a system called media , and media includes press, but is not limited to press . It
includes religion, education, lawyers, anybody that stands in the middle of a discussion is
considered media; an accountant, for example, an architect.

So, all of these professions are means of remote control , but can only be effective, for the most
part, these radio signals, TV signals, and people doing education and talking , can only be of
usefulness to the system, if prior to birth, the genetics of the person is interfered with, and task-
oriented, and oriented, in a way where people are commanded, unknowingly even, to say yes
to things they would normally would have said no to.

Of course, in New York you have the “Yes Network” linked to New York Yankees. So, all of this is
a very interesting process that I'm going through.  Unfortunately, the ramifications, such as the
truck breaking down, Jennifer's tooth problem, her hands and feet being stiff, my problems
with a hernia and an ulcer, of course, can all be related to the physical aspect of remote control,
which is electromagnetism.




Danea: I have a quick story for you. My father lives in North Carolina now, and maybe two weeks
ago, he was picking up my younger sister, the one I went to Japan with. Driving on their way back
from the airport, maybe around 10 or 11 at night on this  kind of country road , he said, he saw
what he thought was a drone coming down.  He said it had three domes , and lights within the
domes. It came right down in front of the car while he's going, maybe 60 miles an hour, and just
takes off.

So, he thought it was a government drone, or something, or whatever it may be. Then about an
hour later he's driving, probably at about 50, 60 miles an hour, with a car next to him, cars behind
him, and he sees this shadow go in between his car, the car next to him and hit his door. He has
a SUV, GMC, and it just pushed the whole thing over to the right, all four wheels at the same time,
maybe a little bit off the road. So, he pulls over a little bit later, and he sees this huge dent in his
door.

While he's driving, he noticed the car next to him, nothing was phased, almost like they didn't
see it; like there was nothing. No one had their brakes on, no one reacted to seeing this shadow
thing coming over. But he could see it like coming over to his car, and then just hit the side of his
door. He even brought it to the auto body shop , and the guy said what happened ? He just told
the guy that he hit a deer, because how is he going to explain that kind of thing?

The guy said, well, there's no blood, there's nothing here , and he pulled off the side molding on
the door, and he said, look, the metal is folded. Which instead of just sticking straight in, the metal
was folded, and the plastic components were melted in the door. If you hit an animal, how come
nothing hits you on the side of the door ? If you hit a deer or something, you always hit it in the
front first on the grill, because you're going into it. But this was on the side of the door. How did
something hit you on the side of the door, going that fast, and move your car over?

Glen: There are a lot of things that can be explained, if one understands magnetism. Something
can get drawn into it; a cloud of iron filings, some pressure of air.

Danea: So, what do you think would do that?

Glen: There are too many options to me now to be certain of any single one of them.

Danea: Are they trying to show that they're watching my dad?  It's like some kind of message .
Before he's seen stuff for years and years, his whole life, those unexplained kind of things . But
this is one of the first times where there is proof of damage to his vehicle. You can tell these kinds
of stories to people, and they don't believe you, but now there's a physical thing that happened.

Glen: Think of a bullet of air, shot off by something, or sucked up from someplace else, heading
for metal or whatever. Magnetism, compression and all kinds of things, could be the end product,
but we don't know what we don't know.


If we don't understand the consequences of magnetism, we can live for 50, 60 years in it , not
knowing that some of the events that happened to us were manufactured ; didn't just kind of
happen like, I got cancer. I got a heart attack.

Danea: Yeah, I’m sure.

Glen: All these things that they sell pills for, could be pills that reduce the power of the electrical
charge, which is being inserted into your body, and diverts the normal electrical charge, that say,
makes your heart pump, or makes your lungs draw and exhale air. It wouldn't take much in the
way of current. We are basically water with iron floating through it.

Danea: They could be giving you, like you're saying, pills or something , that could increase or
decrease something and make you more conducive. They could be putting it in your water in the
city. We don't know what elements they're putting in there , and you're drinking that , and now
your body is a huge receptor for all of this.

Glen: It could even come secondhand through fruit, for example, through the juice of fruits.  It
could be in the water, and it's not something that shows up as a chemical, which they can dissect
but simply water.

Danea: All you have to do media-wise, is just run stories for a few months saying how great iron
is, and take this supplement, and everyone is deficient in this, and they get everybody taking it.

Glen: You've got to remember that even though the calendars are not the same as they used to
be in the past, that they talk about, generally speaking, much longer lives than exist today. Today's
life is managed like a game of golf. You're born as a child, and you live for 20 years learning how
to learn. Then you spend 20 years at work , learning how to do something.  Then you spend 20
years at work, managing the people who are learning how to learn to do something.  Then you
retire and you sell your wisdom for the next 20 years, and then you die. If you live longer than 80
years, you're on overtime.

They've got to let a few people live in order to give the mob , that doesn't live long enough ,
hope that they're going to make it to that stage , where the government pays you , instead of
you pay the government . It's a game of golf ; you start off on a high place called a  “T”. That's
because your body functions from “T cells”. T cells are the repairing network in your body. Then
you play four days of the equivalent of 20 years of living.

Everything looks good at the beginning, but then you see all the impediments to your
advancing; the trees that border the fairway, the bunkers, the holes that contain flowing water
going through it, so that you have to kind of tippy-toe around all of this stuff. Keep going down
the middle, do what you're told to do, or you're going to be in trouble. Then you come back the
second day, and you've seen how it works a bit, and you try to keep down the middle and play
par.



You repeat the process four times, which is the equivalent of 80 years living on Earth. Each one
has a different meaning, and a different task for you, during that period in time, and when you're
done, you're like a snowman. You lasted through the winter of your discontent. When you start
feeling good again, because the sun come out, you melt away and die. They needed to have the
numbers of people on the planet for a fixed period of time , so that they could operate a
laboratory, and learn everything that needed to be learned about war, pestilence, famine, and
disease, for the purpose of remote control.

Because they stayed hidden in the pre -ice age state of
having found security going down a cone volcano , and
living in the moho discontinuity, using robots called human
beings to do their duty. Those robots basically come out of
a bottle like genies, are put on the planet, then they run all
these experiments around them , and get them to show
how war affects a human being.

Those who win, those who lose, and the lives of the people
before it, the lives of people after it; all these are lessons to
be learned along with famine, pestilence, and disease .
Once they have all of the information they need from the
number of people who have been born , died and added to
that the people who are still alive today, added to that is the
lesson learned by the masses.

Not only do you find out what happens to the person who went to war, but you find out what
happens to the person who didn't go to war , but met people who went to war and see how
they think as opposed to how you think, and that's done by immigration. Moving people around
after war is a normal way of infesting people who haven't been to war, and haven't learned the
lessons directly. The total number they needed on the planet , appears to be 14 to 16 billion,
half of which lived and died, half of which are now present on the surface of the earth . When
all the lessons are learned, then like snowmen, you must melt away.

We are at the period now where all the people that live on the planet, even your worst enemies,
even the genetically engineered version that has replaced the people who were here at the
beginning, all have to be removed, so that they can now start the process of building the human
robot they need for the exploration of the outer space. That means soon; soon we must all die,
so that our controllers can say, okay, that's it; give us a couple of millennia where the earth lies
fallow, and then we'll come out and plant the new version of human beings, so that there will
be the pre-ice age type, the post-ice age type, and the new person.





So, we are in that period of, in numerology, you say males are “8”, women are “9”, and weemin
are “10”. So, get rid of all three , and start over again with a triune hermaphrodite ; a female
with a male content, and a technology content, all put together into one person so that it can
travel by itself, and establish a base on every rock up there ; the billions of rocks in the Oort
cloud to begin the process, and then further out into the universe.


Creation on the other hand , said that's not my plan for the universe, and therefore , I'm going
to gather up all of the people who are not responsible for all the injustice that occurs. It won't
be a big crowd, but it will contain the leadership that's needed for the future, and I'll attach
them to the 7 to 8 billion who lived and died , but had no responsibility in making the mess
they're in.

Together I'll take them out of this universe through the back door , and put them at a place
where they can continue progressing without the interference of the genetically engineered
task-oriented dummies that were created by the blue and gray nuns. The blue nuns by the way,
moved out of Germany, and went to Jerusalem during the Crusades, and never left. They come
from an area around the Golan Heights today, to run Jerusalem, but in the Golan Heights area
of Syria they did all the genetic engineering that was required for Europe.

Danea: So, you think you'll do any more posts or anything?



Glen: At the appropriate time, and hopefully when a sufficient number of people have joined to
lead this fray. From what I understand, there can be as many as 60 who come forward, 30 who
are honest about it, 30 who are in it for personal gain, and they kind of disappear over time .
But 13 bring with them the qualities necessary to lead a certain task in the future , and 17 will
be like the engineers are to architects.

The architects are the leaders who see the future by understanding
the past . 13 lead the way with knowledge, but 17 carry out the
projects that the philosophers, the thinkers have put forward. 7 to
8 billion people would then be available from the people who've
lived and died and had no link to causing the problems in the past.

Danea: They all have to meet on the farm, I guess.

Glen: That's where it all begins. It's got to start soon. By the way the
farm is 34.2 acres, which I am told, is exactly the same size as the
complex of the temple in Jerusalem.

Danea: By coincidence of course.

Glen: And is shaped like a gun and the first emperor of China was
called Gun, and his son succeeded in all that he failed; his son's name
was Yu. So, Yu are it, hehe.

Danea: Time is ticking though.

Glen: If you can think of someone that has a vehicle, especially a truck, and wants to spend some
time on the farm, that would be helpful.

Danea: Where I live not too many people have trucks.

Glen: As a matter of fact, Jennifer's car, Honda, which she is not allowed to use in Canada as a
refugee, would be available for a trade in. If somebody has a truck they would rather trade for a
Honda, we have one of those. But the farm needs a truck.

Danea: Have you looked on any circulars to see, what a used truck is going for now? What you're
looking for?

Glen: The range would be about the same value as the car, which has been evaluated at $10,000
to $12,000. We would be ready to trade it in on a truck that has a value of $7,000 to $12,000
range. So, if you come across anybody that might be interested, let them know.

Danea: How much does she have left on that car?


Glen: It was paid off in her last year in Ogdensburg.  The final payment, I think, was $1,200 or
something like that, and that was paid, so it's owned outright. It donated to the Institute.

Danea: Could you trade it in for, say, a truck that's $8,000, and then you guys can sell it.

Glen: I would rather that it be done here than through a dealership.

Danea: Say you have a private sale, like you put it on in a paper or something, you list it for $9 or
$10,000, and then you get the cash and you can buy something that you can use.

Glen: There's always technicalities when one came in as a refugee. I don't want to complicate the
issue of selling and then having money, and she's not supposed to work, or not supposed to be a
part of the Canadian economy. That's why I keep thinking the better way would be an exchange.

Danea: But she can gift it to you or the Institution.

Glen: She has gifted it to the Institute. So, it would be the Institute trading it for a truck.

Danea: But essentially what you're asking me is the same as if you found a private seller, some
kid who wants a Honda up by you, and he has a truck that they could just trade you.

Glen: Sometimes, say, a male has a truck and dies, the woman is left alone, and she would rather
have a small car than a truck.  That's basically, I think, where this thing will develop.  Both get a
good deal and get what they're looking for.

Danea: You need one of those weekly circulars to check. Another option would be…

Glen: In any the event, Danny, I'm going to have to go, because I've got to go close up the farm
there, before it gets dark.

Danea: Okay, alright.

Glen: And, thank you for your assistance and your help, and you're welcome to come any time.

Danea: Thank you, I appreciate that. Help whenever I can, for as long as I can.

Glen: Say hi to Jerd.

Danea: I will. Alright, say hi to Jenny.

Glen: Okay. Yeah. Bye for now.

Danea: Alright, bye.