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Dead Man Walking - August 2009

Glen: Hello.

Jerd: Glen.

Glen: Hi

Jerd: What's going on?

Glen: Nothing much. What's going on with you?

Jerd: I'm observing, analyzing, and concluding, hehe.

Glen: Hehe. I'm back to reading a book that I thought I should go back and review again.

Jerd: Oh, you do that too, you review old books?

Glen: Yeah. By the author of Jonathan Livingston Seagull.

Jerd: I just bought that book the other day.

Glen: His ninth book was called “One”.

Jerd: What's that book about?

Glen: About going back in time , and going forward in time, and meeting yourself along the way
based on the different options you had when you made decisions.  You made one decision, then
your life expands from that point , and that's the end product of that decision.  Should you have
made another decision, there's also another path that expands from that , and you can look at
what would have occurred from making that decision instead of the one you made and so on.

So, you could have had three or four choices and eventually know exactly where your life would
have gone in that story. Of course, it's all fiction. Demonstrates that sometimes you think you've
made the wrong decision, but in the end, it proves out to be right.

Jerd: That's weird. I was watching a video about these Native Americans and one lady said, people
go through their lives searching for the meaning of what they have to do, and then they find out
they were doing it the whole time.

But I was watching this video on this Native American community and I criticized it.  Somebody I
know got kind of upset with me because I criticized them.  I said that they basically oppressed
people from the bottom, and the other parts of the system oppress people from the top, and he
said, you’re blaming the victim.


Because in the video the Natives have some true wisdom but I saw
underneath when you dig in to it, they talk about a prophecy,  and
how every particular point in time is a cleansing.  You can see how
this has been put in their religion, how  they mix wisdom with
spirituality. So, you lived with those people before?

Glen: Well, I went and participated in the defense team for one
Native leader in British Columbia during a trial , lasted ten months.
Then along the way I discovered that they were all in on it . The
Natives as well as the lawyers as well as the Crown were all part
of a conspiracy . While working together pretending there was a
criminal activity that had occurred and yet it was all rigged.

Jerd: In the encyclopedia they call it the American Mysteries, and
for example, the Iroquois had a select few that would know. So, it is
mentioned that they do have secret societies in masonic writings. I
guess it's a perfect cover , because they've been oppressed and
depopulated.

Glen: What you have is always a battle coming from both ends; comes at you from both
ends. So, if you have say, the church at the top end running the show against you, at the
other end you've got the Native people whom you believe are on your side, also running
against you on the side of the church, but pretending not to be. Pretending to be a different
approach to life, but in fact they're all working together , and in the middle, you can have the
weeman who's basically inside your own place of abode, your house , acting as your wife, but
in fact working for the other side.

Jerd: Speaking of weemen, I did a Google search on Iron Lady.  Margaret Thatcher and Golda Meir,
they're not the only ones, there's so many of them in government.


Glen: Oh, yeah.

Jerd: Another term that’s used is Iron Steel Butterfly or something like that.  There's so many of
them. Maybe I'll send you the names,  and you could probably look into them if you haven't
already.

Glen: But it all comes down to “fe”, the code for “iron” ⇢ female ⇢ femme in French.

Jerd: So, they only have Iron Ladies, they don't have Stainless Steel Ladies.

Glen: But that's because every time you get hardened, you move up. You start off as “iron” but
you then go to “steel” and then go up to “chrome”. Each level, one is basically the raw material
⇢ “iron”. The next one is the raw material born twice, being put back in a fire, hammered again,
and you've got a much harder, longer lasting material . Then additives are added to it and you
get “chrome”, which makes it harder and prettier, shinier than “steel”.

Jerd: Now, to make the more efficent one, that's going to take a long period of time because I
remember you saying when they do this genetic engineering, the mixing of DNA from an animal
with a human being, to see its effects it has to take a while for nature to basically take its course.

Glen: Well, if you look at the time, they've allotted for themselves, the Northern Hemisphere is
to be done with by “2062”, so you're dealing with 50 , 53, 54 years there basically . But then
there's the thousand years of the Southern Hemisphere . So, the final, final product doesn't
come until the Southern Hemisphere has been done. So, they've got plenty of time to do their
additional changes that they want, and especially the last part, which is the “gills”.

Jerd: That right there, I think would take a while.

Glen: Well, you have to change the ear basically.

Jerd: That was in the movie Waterworld.

Glen: You have to change either the ear, or add a second hole , below the ear for that process,
which is basically designed to take oxygen out of water . Now, we have people in the world
today who have mastered holding their breath and they're up to 10 minutes . I can't hold my
breath for 30 seconds.  They can hold it for 10 minutes.  That means the process of extracting
oxygen from water has to be still in us as a recessive gene , and it's a matter of reactivating
things that were operational when we were eels at one time in the past, for example.

Jerd: How do you reactivate a gene?






Glen: It's usually through use, so if a person is practicing holding their breath and increasing and
increasing, that would probably lead to a reactivation of a gene, and then in genetics you can go
find that gene and then you can have a genetic procedure to make it repeat that , and come out
as a prime operating mechanism. Much in the same way as they went around in Australia, when
they were using Australia as a prison camp.

Since a lot of the people who were sent there were mass murderers, for example, or serial
rapists or something , knowing what the person had done , and then going in and looking
through the DNA, through the genome of 5 or 6 or 20 of these mass murderers, you could locate
the one gene that would be operational in them, compare it to normal people, see how in
normal people that is recessed and not operational, so you know what you're dealing with.

Jerd: I think Charles Manson was one of those people.

Glen: Wouldn't surprise me.

Jerd: Do you know what the message  was behind  people like him and the guy who did the
Summer of Sam killings?

Glen: Well, the message is that the system is able to manufacture a task specific slave. Not only
manufacture it, but it can manufacture it as a sleeper cell , so that it doesn't show up until it
receives its password. That sleeper cell is unlocked at a time in the future , and that's why you
see all of these guys that appear on the news that went into school , and shot people , and
everybody says, I never would have believed it, he was such a nice fella.

Jerd: Yeah, like that Asian guy in Virginia [Virginia Tech shooting]. It was strange, I heard that not
too far from where he lived was a government facility.

Glen: Yeah. But often it's done before birth, then something in their lives is picked out to be the
key that turns it on, and overnight, in a matter of seconds. A lot like you saw in the Manchurian
Candidate there [1962].

Jerd: But that was through some type of social engineering that they did with that person.

Glen: Well, it was a word. Something to do with the Queen of Hearts, I seem to remember.

Jerd: Yeah, I remember, that triggered it. But you said you can do it genetically and you can do...?

Glen: You can do it through social engineering, where the person doesn't appear to have it. It's
recessed for all intents and purposes, but it's lying there just under the surface waiting for the
message.



Jerd: Regarding this  task specific slave, I watched a movie a while ago, it's called Æon Flux. It
illustrates what you're saying, how the media communicates directly to a person's brain. It's like
a futuristic setting, where everybody is reincarnated over and over again by a system. They always
show these messages in the movies of everything that you’re saying. Is that how you found that
out? For example, do you find out personally from movies? Through movies?

Glen: Well, some of it has to be reasoning from what you get into your everyday life, your brain.
But the old stuff that comes as intuition coming out of the spine , is what allows you to take
what you would normally take as, okay, this is fiction.  But if you then pass it through a test
through your intuition, and your intuition says that's not fiction, that happened at some time
in my existence (talking about the information that's recorded in the spine).

Then you have to start looking at things more seriously, and say, okay, if this is not fiction, how
do they go about doing this, and go through a search of looking for it, the links to doing it that
way. You should never be making decisions ⇢ observe, analyze and conclude, basically means
that you go through  the process of analyzing everything that comes to your brain through a
program of intuition so that you get both sides . You get the modern version and you get the
ancient version before you decide which way is the right way.

Jerd: Yeah, when I do that, observe and analyze, I don't conclude right away.

Glen: You cannot. If you're really serious about this stuff, you cannot make instant decisions ,
because there's a process that has to take place, and it basically deals with, time allows you to
download what you are now seeing and dealing with in real time , into a program that has to
review it for hundreds of thousands of years, and that takes time.

For some people, less time than others, but it's not a flashback instantaneous . We don't have
that powerful a computer inside a human body. Now, there may be at some time in the future be
an enhanced version, but I suggest that's still a while away if they allow it.

Jerd: Do you think the intuition of people today is better than it was say a thousand years ago?

Glen: No, their intuition is in recess.

Jerd: Oh, so it’s a matter of sharpening.

Glen: Yeah, you got to refine tune your tuner, heh. You got to tune in to the proper wavelength
and wave band, and know that it's not the same communications band as are in normal use ,
like in radio waves. But it is linked to that concept, but totally different.

Jerd: That's probably how they came up with the concept.




Glen: It's somewhat the same as saying,  you can listen to the universe in real time or you can
listen to it under the influence of infrared or ultraviolet.  Both would give you a picture, maybe
not a recognizable picture for the layman to identify, but certainly for the scientist it would tell
them that there's some activity going on there under infrared or ultraviolet.

Well, what I'm referring to when I talk about the local area network created by cats and their
communications, that is again, a totally different method of communications through sensors.
That sensory aspect of things is not very well understood, if understood at all, in normal
communications today.

But if you  think about the whale , and their ability to sense things through the water , for
example, and the movement of water at a speed which is unexplained in the normal science,
but has recently been proven to be true . There's all of these other means of communications
than the ones we're dealing with.

Jerd: They also have hair on their bodies, so I'm sure that's a type of sensor.  And they do have a
natural sonar type of thing.

Glen: Yeah, like bats, butterflies. How do you explain a butterfly leaving Canada and going to
Mexico? You look at it, there's nothing there, and yet it has that memory that can only be linked
to some kind of intuition from the past that allows it to travel . Now, birds are a little more
complicated version. They got more parts to them.

Jerd: Yeah, I noticed that. How do they know that?

Glen: Most of the birds follow a set pattern.  I guess in the old days, the flow of rivers would be
one of the ways they directed.  But recently, they've tested many birds and found they follow
highways.

Jerd: Oh, wow.

Glen: I guess they go in one direction following a highway, and they know what happens at the
other end, and that becomes recorded, and then they just play it back when they're going in the
opposite direction. So, in the past it may have been rivers, or it may have been lava flows, or what
have you, I don’t know.

Jerd: Another thing, when I was watching that Native American video, they said, when they look
at animals, people today look at them as just resources, but they're not just resources , they're
actually family. Like how they learned where to get their medicines was from watching animals,
because they were the ones using it first.






Glen: Well, where does a bird pass on to its offspring the medicine it needs to pass on? We know
that in human beings that's done through mother's milk, so breastfeeding, and the same thing
goes with a lot of the animals . But when it comes to birds, it's done through their shit ; they
have droppings as they go along and eat, and the little chicks come behind, and they're pecking
for their food, too , and part of  what they pick up is what the mother's droppings were .
Medicines, immunities get passed on that way.

Jerd: Another thing the guy said, was when people take down trees for profit, they think they can
just replant trees. But when you taking down the tree it’s destroying the whole community.

Glen: It certainly changes the environment in the space around that tree, because trees don't
just grow, there's a process. You have to have certain kinds of trees that can put up with wilder
conditions. A lot of windy places, a lot of cold places, a lot of rainy places, would never allow
much of the vegetation to grow. But the minute a pine tree grows, and then the different kinds
of pine trees behind create an environment that provides protection.

Then you can get the beginning of deciduous trees that grow behind this protection, and they
begin with alders . That's why a new beginning is suggested by the coming of Alderamin,
because it's linked to the second stage, deciduous instead of coniferous, and the first of the
second stage are the alders . So, there's a process before you get to oak trees, for example, or
maples, or things like that. The maple is a word just linked to breasts.

Jerd: Why do they use that as a Canadian flag?

Glen: Well, we’re the breasts.

Jerd: Oh, all the resources and all of that.

Glen: Yeah, comes to feed.

Jerd: Wow, okay, I get it. I heard it was named after some guy in India, I think.

Glen: Well, there is a language of the original Hindu in southern India which is
called Kannadian. So, it probably is linked to that. Along the way you've had places
like “Acadia”, the French brought in to the Maritime provinces, things evolved.
They'll never tell you the true story in history, because it's all been done for a
purpose, and that’s to educate insiders, not the average Joe.

Jerd: Speaking of Hindus, they have their trinity. There are so many different types of Hinduism,
but the one with the trinity of Brahma, Vishnu, and “Siva” is the destroyer. So, you can see the
message behind them giving out “visa” cards everywhere. Credit is the destroyer, I guess.



Glen: And Krishna is of course IRS. Hare Krishna, they're looking for a gimme
gimme gimme.

Jerd: Oh wow, it's all linked.

Glen: And of course, when you give them, they don't keep it, they have to
pass it on to their superior.

Jerd: Speaking of Alderamin, what's the relation to the star Aldebaran?

Glen: Alder Baron?

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: Never heard of that.

Jerd: I was reading about it in Morals in Dogma.

Glen: “Alder” breaks down to  “the red” ⇢ “la red” backwards, and i t means the second
generation, just as the Persians were the red in the colors of the world . You have the Asians
having yellow as a color, Persians being red Asians, and the combination of the two is orange.

Jerd: The word Asian, could you turn that “i” to an “L”?

Glen: Yeah, you can turn the “i” to an “L”, but in the word “Asian”, basically is the “S” can be a
“C”, so you're dealing with “Cain”,  and the word “Cain” is basically dealing with the “builder”.

Jerd: The reason I ask that, because the lion’s name is “Aslan” in the “Chronicles of Narnia”, and
Aslan in Turkish means “lion”. They call themselves lion [inaudible].

Glen: Well, Turkey was the home of the Trojan , and the story of the Trojans is the most
important story in history because it deals with exactly what we're dealing with at these End
Times. Something on the inside is different than what you see on the outside. That's the making
of the super slave. In the word “Asia”, with an “A” at the beginning , and an “A “at the end, it
basically says male-female.

Jerd: I want to find out like these mythologies and...

Glen: “My theology”.

Jerd: Yeah, and all these different gods like Hercules. Because on one level they say it's basically
the sun going through all the signs of the zodiac.  It could be, I guess, the travels of the soul on
another level.


Glen: The confusing part is they have different names for the same concept.

Jerd: Yeah, I see that.

Glen: In Norse mythology it's different than in Roman mythology and it's different from Greek
mythology. So, it's confusing on purpose.

Jerd: Yeah, I see they try to confuse. But I see that Albert Pike’s writings he’ll show you that this
god will change names like “Thoth” is “thought” and “Mercury” is “Hermes”, and sometimes
they mix the gods together and make them one, two and one.  Anubis, was I guess a lower god
and he was mixed in with Hermes. That stuff gets confusing.

Glen: Well, Hermes is pretty simple.

Jerd: Her is me?

Glen: I'm Her ⇠⇢ Her me.

Jerd: But why is it Hermes Trismegistus, three times great, because it has three different names?

Glen: Yeah, trimister. It's basically giving the message that it's a trinity. ⇢ it's a three in one. It's
not just two in one. It has the medulla in there, as well with male and female.

Jerd: So, they planned that trinity since India.

Glen: Oh, before India was even created.

Jerd: Oh, damn man. I guess that goes back to that quote from Ecclesiastes, in the Bible; nothing
new under the sun.

Glen: Yeah, there's nothing new.

Jerd: So, whenever you hear something is new, you always think the opposite, no.

Glen: Somebody is being handed information from the past that allows them to take credit as
a new invention in modern times, and the theory of relativity with Einstein is no different. For
the work that he did for them, 20 years in the patent office, leaking information about who's
looking for what, and what's been discovered, and how to delay it and all of that stuff. He gets
credit for a thing, and in his case was the theory of relativity.

Jerd: I saw a documentary about an Egyptian guy who supposedly discovered batteries. They had
batteries in Egypt thousands of years ago. This is supposedly before the invention of electricity.



Glen: Well, batteries were supposed to have been invented in Ottawa by the E.B. Eddy Company,
but you listen to this stuff and yeah, yeah okay.

Jerd: Hehe. My friend asked a question. He wanted to know what group of people had the most
power above the surface in this power structure, and I wasn't really sure. Somebody suggested
that it could be the Kurds or the Basques from what you said.

Glen: Well, the “media” is linked to the word “Adam”. “Mede” ⇠⇢ “Adam” is the same word.
So, what you're looking at is the most power is in the priests of where the money is . It always
has to be priests because it's linked to religion , and religion is basically a drug without
chemistry. It basically fogs up your life and makes you pigeonhole yourself , so that all of the
pigeons can go out fighting later.

So, you're dealing with the priest as the gatherer of the funds , but you're not dealing with
priests as the power to use the funds . That drops down to the second level which is the nun .
The nun hiding in background gets more work done than a priest in the foreground. It works in
hospitals and has access to DNA. It wears a habit which is like a burka. It means all nuns can be
used to carry babies to term, and that's part of their swearing in ceremonies taking their final
vows.







Jerd: I wonder if they ever think , w hat's this really all
about, I'm getting inseminated with an egg  I don't even
know.

Glen: Well, it comes down to the story that's been
made about Mary. Mary of course, is the mother of god.
So, if you're sold to religion, you think that's the most
important thing; hey, I could be the mother of god, and
that way they put it over on those young girls who
aren't really up to snuff.

They're usually very shy types and are not familiar with
the details  because a t first , all they do is clean
bathrooms and that kind of stuff. Then all of a sudden,
they have to carry a baby to term, and they don't have
an individual mind. They have agreed that obedience is
the most important thing in their lives , and their
superior says, do this, and they do it.

Jerd: With the groups and the power, personally I was
thinking it's not really one particular group.  I guess
maybe a group is powerful at one time and then it switches over…

Glen: Depending where they’re collecting the money. If they were collecting the money in China,
then the groups they had in China, Taoists and the Japanese versions of Buddhism
(Zen),Buddhism that kind of stuff, were powerful at that time. But after they moved the collection
of the money to Europe, then it went from the Orthodox group down to the Vatican, and from
the Vatican to the Anglican.

Behind the scene you have all of the Protestant divisions that each have a specific task. Can be
called Presbyterian or Lutheran. They have so many names I forget. It’s always somebody pissed
off at something, so they start another group. That's why I always refuse to turn the Institute
[CIPI] into a group of people who would be asked to believe the same thing. I just would rather
have an assembly of leaders; people who have their own brain, are prepared to have an open
mind and listen to everybody else's view of things.

But then through their own book of life, go back and decide what they're going
to believe, and in the end, if we're successful, 13 people will provide that critical
mass, and each one will be different . You can't have them all the same.  Each
one has to be different to protect the mass from attack from different places.

Jerd: I notice with myself that I’m different from the people I talk to.



Glen: Sure. You wouldn't want carbon copies of yourself. That wouldn't basically do the job. You
want people who are clear-minded, and open-minded, and are basically leaders of themselves.

Jerd: In these times it’s hard to find people.

Glen: Absolutely difficult to find. I can vouch for that, having spent so much time trying to identify
them. Numbers are relatively low. One believes that you can go through 69 years of living , and
you can't identify 13 people with functioning brains that live in your environment. Even with the
existence of the telephone and the net and all of the communications we have.  It doesn't mean
some people don't believe they are open-minded and are not.

Because when you provide them with information that shows that maybe they're gone in the
wrong direction, the open -mindedness disappears. I've seen that with Masons, I've seen that
with religious people, I've seen it with Union people, I've seen it with Native people . They're
open-minded as long as you're the one changing. But if any change is required of them, all of a
sudden, no.

Jerd: The problem I see with a lot people around me, they’ll say, well, how you explained this, is
not logical, how can that happen? If it comes down to something like intuition, it's just, no, I need
proof. I guess, they want proof the way they want it to be.

Glen: Proof, because anything that proves something that they don't like, they need to know
where it is so they can get rid of it. That's why they keep insisting on people putting footnotes
about where things were obtained, so they can get rid of it . It has nothing to do with proving
to them. They're not open -minded, so there's nothing that's going to prove it to them . They
just want to get rid of anything that causes other people to come to different conclusions than
their own.

In a country like Canada which is supposed to be the bastion of democracy, open to all ideas,
you have a customs and excise department that bans books from coming into Canada . When
you look at the list, you see that many of them, if not the majority, are political books . Not
something that proposes terrorism or deviant sex or what have you.

Jerd: They let all the deviant stuff come in.

Glen: Here, they don't allow opinions. So, if anybody thinks that this country is somehow freer,
it's not allowed because every country in the world has a different function , but is run by the
same people, tollgators and pirates . So, they allow certain things in one place and not in
another. They allow something in one place, you can be sure they disallow some other thing in
that place that they don't disallow in the first place.




Anyways, the news, I guess  for coming days, I don't know exactly if it will be tomorrow, is that
when you dial in to what you usually dial in to get to the Kealey site, it probably will not work. But
a new address will appear on my email.  That's the address you should use to re -bookmark the
site. If things go as planned over the next month or so, it may be reactivated completely, so that
my emails to you will also be posted on my site, as it used to be, the original site, the one I was
dealing with before they cut off my Kealey.net name.

Jerd: All those old posts that are not there anymore, you can't get them back as well?

Glen: Well, they should be there soon.

Jerd: I kind of need the older one.

Glen: Within the next few days you should be getting a new address on my emails and bookmark
that, and there you'll see that you can access a lot more of the archived material.  We're in the
process of searching all of the old material to see if those things that are missing can be
reconstructed.

Jerd: What do you mean?

Glen: Well, a lot of pages on the site you would go to and try to call up, but nothing would come
up because it would say, page not found. There's still going to be some of that for a while, but as
we find the material, we can put it back in again.

Jerd: When you did that site, you did it all by yourself?

Glen: No, I never did the site.  I directed the making of the site.  The technical stuff was always
done by strangers. But I would say, no, I want this here, or that there, and go get this, and I'd send
the person a picture, or something and say, this is what you put in here.  So, I did all of that.  So,
there's a technical aspect of working on the net that I'm not familiar with, but layout and design
and that stuff, I'm quite familiar with having had a background in printing. The site was my design,
but the technical work of others.

Jerd: How was that experience learning typography?

Glen: Well, it was something you learned in school like woodwork , and auto mechanics and
whatever. Come to a conclusion as to which of the different trades are more interesting to you
than others, and graphics was always more interesting to me. Because I believe that pictures are
worth a thousand words, and you need both the words and the pictures, because it's the same
thing as the brain and the spine . The pictures provide background information that you can't
really speak in concrete terms to define exactly what you're talking about, but the minute you
put a picture of it, then it becomes evident , and it's the same thing as intuition added on to
reason.


Jerd: They have something in the media they call hot and cold…

Glen: Hot and cold type?

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: Hot type was you use metal and you melt it.

Jerd: No, they would say hot would be more of you don't have to really participate in really
thinking as much. As far as say you're just looking at a picture, I think that would be called cool,
because you're actually using your brain, when you're looking at it, and analyzing it.

Glen: I never heard that shit before.

Jerd: Hahaha

Glen: See? You're teaching me.

Jerd: It's by a guy named Marshall McLuhan. He's actually a Canadian.

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: He has a foundation or something under him.

Glen: He basically said that the media is the message.

Jerd: Yeah, that's what he said , and he ke pt talking about the medium , and the content.  That
reminds me, back in prehistory, the language they used , wasn't a formulated language like this,
was it? It was more clicking?

Glen: Yeah. A, E, I, O, U.  That's basically the language. A, I, O.

Jerd: Haha. How about Y?

Glen: Yeah, sometimes Y.

Jerd: So, when they were communicating with each other, when it was that way, it's harder to get
manipulated by other people.

Glen: Yeah.




Jerd: That's one the thing I learned in propaganda , that uneducated people, are harder to be
manipulated. That’s why  Stalin, and Mao, made it a point to educate people, so they could be
propagandized. It's interesting. I've been reading another book that a friend of mine gave me. It’s
from a guy named Edgar Allan Poe. Have you ever read anything of his?

Glen: Yeah.

Jerd: What was his whole story?

Glen: Well, he has Œ in his name, which basically means the beginning, and he has Æ in his
name, Edgar Allan, and that means the end. “P”, which is the sign for wisdom in the middle, so
what he's telling you right off the bat, he's the beginning and the end of all things. If you read
his material, you will be given the allegories that you need to arrive at some understanding of
secret societies, per se.

Jerd: Wow, so maybe it's a good thing I got his book.  Do you know the allegory behind the Tell -
Tale Heart?

Glen: I can’t say I remember. I've read all of his material, or listened to tapes of somebody reading
his stories. There's so much of it, I don't remember all the details. The most important is the part
about the Red Death.

Jerd: Yeah, I was just reading that, and it went to seven rooms (that number seven). What did you
get from that story?

Glen: Well, when you think it's over, it's not over . When you think you've gone beyond the
problem, you haven't gone beyond the problem . That's the time they get you . A lot of times
they'll give you a date, when you pass the date, you think, well, we're safe. But you forgot the
window.

Jerd: That's interesting. Even in the Bible, they're so subtle with things. I think it was in Matthew
10:16. Jesus says, Behold, for I send you out as sheep amongst the wolves, so be wise as serpents
and harmless as doves. I'm thinking, why?  Some people think the serpent was an evil type of
thing. But in other civilizations, they thought that the serpent was wisdom.


Glen: It was a symbol for the spine.

Jerd: Yes, it's a symbol for the spine , but it's also the tree. So, why would
they use two different symbols for the same thing?

Glen: They always use two. Why would they not use two?

Jerd: Because number two is number one?

Glen: Yeah.


Jerd: Oh, oh, okay.

Glen: There's two breasts and one testis at the end.

Jerd: I remember you posting something about doves.

Glen: It had an Πin it, the beginning,

Jerd: It could be [ove] ⇢ “Ave” ⇢ the way.

Glen: And DC, because the “V” can be a “C”. District of Columbia is a beginning.

Jerd: I'm going to have to go back over things that I already went over, again and again. Because
when I read these masonic books, especially Albert Pike’s book, I feel like I'm passing over things
that are over my head, that I'm not understanding. I hate that feeling.

Glen: Well, you can't expect to be learning something that's, 62,000 years, at least, ancient
history, and know it because you read it.

Jerd: Yeah. You've got to experience it, right?

Glen: You gotta put it in your file, and you gotta absorb it through osmosis in your daily life.

Jerd: That's what you were doing when you were making the newspaper?

Glen: Everything that I did was in preparation for what I'm doing now. Was my way of writing a
diary. I think writing a diary is stupid.  You're only writing your own stuff, and so what good does
it do you? You never go back and read it anyways.  You wrote it, so what the hell?   But if you're
printing your stuff as you write it, then you get comments, and you know you're right when
people run you down. So, you need to do things always as you're writing that will cause certain
people to run you down.

Jerd: You said that Alan Watt was giving you a little bit of advice after you knew him for a couple
of years?

Glen: I don't believe that for a second.

Jerd: Oh, he wasn't?

Glen: No. I think I learned from Alan Watt, but not necessarily because he was attempting to
teach me anything . You learn from everybody in how they approach you . You learn as much
from what people say, as what they don't say, and you learn much more about Alan Watt from
what he refuses to say, then from what he says.

Jerd: But I'm seeing how much of an actor he was.  He must have been trained in  how to con
people.

Glen: Between him and David Icke and Jordan Maxwell, you've got a package there. They're each
task specific, but they're all basically playing the same role, doing part of the job themselves. I
call them high school teachers. They're not the beginning types who are telling you that there's
a secret society.

They expect you to know that much, but they try to define the secret society influence by their
methods, and Jordan Maxwell does it with symbolism, and David Icke did it with words , and
Watt does it from what I know of him, from how you use the words to attract religious people.

Jerd: He would use a lot of your stuff. He would illustrate how the words were encoded. He would
use that, but there's so many other things.  In this book, when he showed you how the words
were encoded, it would be really simple things.  One thing he really did was underline the two
letters RA, over and over again. But after you learn your stuff, that doesn't really have any real
significance.

Glen: Ra is…

Jerd: Lord of Arts and Crafts? Hehe

Glen: But it can also be more important phonetically.

Jerd: Like, ARPA?

Glen: Hour with “R”.

Jerd: But he would never explain things. I think he wanted it to seem like he was the holder of all
knowledge. I guess he liked that attention of people coming to him.


Glen: Well, it worked for him.  From what I can gather, he must have done well by people
supporting him over the years.  Although he didn't look it when I saw him when he came to my
meeting in Sundridge, I think it was.

Jerd: I wish I could have heard those conversations that you had with him, because he probably
was a different person when he was talking to you than from when I talked to him.

Glen: He wasn't really part of the conversation.  It was more what's new, what are you working
on, that type of thing. Then I would ramble off for an hour, and I guess when he had enough for
his program to satisfy his needs. But I remember that he would call a couple of times a week, and
you could tell that he was looking for material , and I have never hidden anything that I know
from anybody who asks. So, he was no different. Except he called more often than most people.

Jerd: Wow. There's probably a lot of guys who are on the radio right now that probably called you
in the past. You probably don't remember who they are.

Glen: I've got people calling me from all over the world now. People from Scotland, people from
Sweden, people from Germany, people from France, people from Italy , and basically, they just
want to hear me repeat what I've already said.

Jerd: I think in that way, that's kind of a good thing, in a sense.  But they're using that on their
shows and then the people who are listening are saying, oh my god, that's so profound, and it's
like just tightening the bond between them and their listeners.

Glen: That to me is irrelevant . Whatever people want to do with the information, I have no
control. My job is to observe, analyze, and conclude.

Jerd: Yeah, and whatever you find along the way, share it.

Glen: Share it, tell everybody, keep no secrets, and be prepared for the attacks, be prepared for
the compliments. To me, all of that stuff is secondary to finding out , and many of the people
who call have information and in discussion with them, I can figure out some of the things that
would fit in the things I'd be working on in the future.

Jerd: Have I helped or?

Glen: Of course. No one can call on a regular basis and not be helpful in some way or other.

Jerd: There's a guy, he's going to call you . To me it seems like he's not really trying to learn
anything. I think might be attacking. His name is Neo. He might try to ridicule you. I don't know if
you've probably dealt with that already.

Glen: I've dealt with that for 35 years . When you're on sales that stuff just kind of rubs off your
back and you move on. Does that make him feel happier?


Jerd: I think he just wants a following. Maybe some type of ego he has or something. With me, I
get ganged up on the internet. I do have a temper Glen, but I can control…

Glen: If you don't, you wouldn't be normal. Are we supposed to be saviors of the world who are
here for the benefit of all the people who don't have the brains to do it themselves? I don't think
so. I think we're here to gather information, gain knowledge, and bring it back.

Jerd: That makes a lot of sense because that's what I see in nature.

Glen: You don't prove it until you see that you're used over and over again.  You're sent back
into the world more than one time, and each time you're stronger and able to deal with idiots
a lot easier, and it doesn't bother you.

Jerd: When you were younger, like, probably, say, a teen, did you know that somehow you were
different from most people?

Glen: Yeah, of course, and everybody told me so.

Jerd: Because with me, I'm a little different. I knew it, and people told me, but I kind of went along
with it.

Glen: Yeah, I didn't want to hang around with the kids.  They didn't know anything.  So, I hung
around people that were in their 50s, 60s, 70s.

Jerd: I used to hang out with older people, too. I think it was 22 or 21, something just awakened
in me. I don't know what it was.  I guess it was maturing  stage, and then after that, I was on a
searching stage. I didn't know what I was searching for, and I'm still searching.  That reminds me
of a quote, “Seek always for the looking for one thing, and you will surely find another.  This is
the path to wisdom”.

Glen: Well, searching is what you should be doing, and it doesn't matter what you're searching,
it's a learning process. You're learning how to learn. You don't go to school to learn. You go to
school to learn how to learn, and usually, in the first three years, they teach you how to learn.
They show you an alphabet , they teach you how to read, they show you numbers, they teach
you how to count, and they basically talk about the world per se, either through geography or
history or what have you.

Once you have got a hold of those three things in your mind , “you're parked”, and you're
basically parked in school until it's time to give you a piece of paper that says, this is the kind
of job we want you to have. I found school to be the most boring place in the world, because it
was only a repetition of the same thing you had learned in the first three years under a different
guise.


Jerd: I’ve asked people, did you learn anything from school other than how to read?  They'll tell
me, no, I didn't. So, what's the point of going?

Glen: The point is to park you, so, you're not out in the streets causing trouble, and you're not
going to be looking for answers where they don't want you to be looking for answers, and they
have to prepare you . Either they're going to share information secretly with you so that you
could use it against the rest of the people, or they're going to try to make you into an alcoholic
or a drug addict, or whatever, so that they can sideline you. If they can't convince you, they can
at least sideline you.

Jerd: How do you think they make people into an alcoholic?

Glen: It's all recessive genes; it's there, it's waiting for a message, and when it gets its message,
the key unlocks the door and you go down a path . For me, what it was , was that I was used to
getting information from older people. Then when I ended up going to work , and was in a sales
environment, and our selling was not done mostly at the office, but mostly on the road, you didn't
have anybody with experience in what you were selling on the road with you on a daily basis.

So, the only place you could find it is if you went back to the office at night, y ou would go to the
tavern and the older salesman would be at the tavern , and then you could listen to their
discussions and try to direct them away from sports and that kind of stuff. What's the process by
which you have success in selling?

Jerd: Wow, you were on the job. You were really serious.

Glen: 24 hours a day. If I wasn't looking for breasts, I was looking for information on how I would
rise in the ladder of business.

Jerd: How were you raised?

Glen: I was an only boy in a family of three children who were reportedly born within 33 months
of each other. So, three kids all the time but two girls and me the last, the baby in the family.
Parents who didn't speak to each other.  Both were alcoholics.  The father basically openly
alcoholic, the mother closet alcoholic.  It just didn't make any sense why those two people ever
got together to be married.

Jerd: Hehe. That's the same thing I think about my family. It doesn't make sense.

Glen: The only thing I can surmise is that there was a higher pressure on them than themselves.
They didn't do it for themselves.  They did it for some other reason.  Since one was related to an
English-Irish hierarchy and the other one to a French hierarchy, and they were living in the
opposite areas where they should be living. The French one was living in an English area and the
English one was living in a French area.


They somehow got chosen to be the representatives who would be quote unquote “entitled to
carry their message forward ”. The message would come in the way of children.  One daughter
which became French, and the other daughter became English, and me, I became middle ground,
bilingual. So, I was never able to settle on anything as being it. It was always my position was the
referee, if you will, of different opinions and different views in life. I was always the observer, was
constantly analyzing and made people nervous.

Jerd: I think I do that now with people.  When I come around, people I see will say, hi, how are
you doing? I'll just say something different. I guess it makes people uncomfortable sometimes.

Glen: Yeah. Because they know that you get more out of the conversation than they intend to
share.

Jerd: They don't want to share.  Some people ask me, hey, how are you doing?  I say, you don't
care, why are you asking me? They’ll say, yeah, well, ya know. It's just a programmed response, I
guess.

Glen: The one thing I learned, I forget who told me so, was never talk about your health to anyone
but your doctor. Because out there, most people don't care , and t hose who want to hear are
hoping you're having a bad time.

Jerd: I remember you said something about DNA. It was something along the lines of, if somebody
has your DNA, somewhere they can manipulate you, or affect you somehow.

Glen: If they have your recipe- and in their world, there's supposedly a gentleman's agreement,
that if they have your recipe and they made you, they control your destiny , and part of that
recipe is the ability to communicate directly to your medulla. By communicating directly to your
medulla they can affect how you feel from moment to moment . They can distract you or they
can make you feel happy or sad or what have you.

Jerd: There's a superstition in Haiti, for example, if you're cutting your hair or something , don't
leave stuff that came from your body laying around. It has something to do  with voodoo. My
father told me, he went to a bar and was drinking a beer. He left for a little while and came back
to drink that same beer, and somebody told him, don't drink that.

He grew up with stuff like that in his culture and t hat's like a
voodoo type of thing. From what I've learned, it's people who
can take something from your body and manipulate you. I'm
thinking that's probably what it's based off of.

Glen: Policemen take informants to a bar, buy them a beer,
and when he's gone to the washroom, they'll switch his glass
and take the glass back to the police station, take off the
fingerprints, and then they could plant those fingerprints in
different places to put pressure on the person to do things
for them that they would not otherwise do. The same thing
exists with DNA ; e very time somebody goes to jail now,
there's a blood test, and of course, DNA is involved.

Jerd: In the jail here, they actually do a retina scan.

Glen: So, one stage in the future, DNA might be presented in court and say it was found inside
a dead woman. But you have no way of disproving that you weren't there, but they certainly
have many ways of implanting it there , because they collect DNA off of you all your life . DNA
changes over time with the things that you learn.

Jerd: If they have a piece of your DNA, how can it be the same DNA?

Glen: Well, it's not the same. What they look for is a number of markers. There are certain things
that don't change, and there are certain things that change. So, all they're looking for is a number
of markers that don't change.  Then they can say, okay, I found 13 markers or 12 markers or 17
markers, and that means that it cuts down the odds of it being someone else. Because once you
pass three or four, you would have to have the chances of it not being you are one in two billion
or something like that.

Jerd: So, what's that symbol ism mean in Christianity, when they drink the body and blood of
Jesus? Why do they do that ritual of drinking his body and his blood?

Glen: Eating the body and eating the blood , is basically linked to you are what you eat . You
absorb a portion of what you eat as DNA . So, in the coprolites that they found (fossilized turds)
they're able to dissect the material and find, okay, this is the type of animal that deposited this
load here, and that animal was at the time eating this type of menu in a daily life.

Either all vegetarian , or all meat , or a combination of both, but they can tell that from the
coprolites. The problem becomes dividing the two, because you don't want to mix what the
person ate with what the person is, so that you don't confuse who put this shit there . Not the
one that got eaten, but the one that ate put it there.


Jerd: Well, that can get  confusing. When I was in high school, middle school, elementary, they
used to call me a Jerd the Turd. Now that I think about it, maybe it wasn't too far from the truth.

Glen: They used to call me in French, they called me graine, which was basically a play on the
word for penis in French. So, everybody goes through that kind of stuff in one way or another.

Jerd: Yeah. Well, I guess uh…

Glen: Bedtime.

Jerd: Yeah, hehe.

Glen: Okay, Jerd, have a good night.

Jerd: Alright, you too.

Glen: We'll talk to you again.

Jerd: Okay, bye.

Glen: Bye.