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Christmas Call - Dec 25, 2019


Musa: Okay, I'll tell you who I am.  So, apparently, so my name is Musa, that's my name. I talked
to Jerd a couple of times , years ago. I'm just here to just drop by and  go with this group chat.  I
follow Glen’s materials here and there.

Jennifer: Mm hmm. Your name is what? What again?

Musa: Hello? Pardon me?

Jennifer: Yes. Your name, how do you say your name?

Musa: Musa, Musa.

Jennifer: Okay, M-U-S-A.

Musa: Yeah.

Jennifer: Okay. You're a Geopolitical Junkie?

Musa: Yeah, that's the one, yeah, you saw me.

Jerd: I was never really sure  who you are, because on Facebook, the internet, it seems like you
have many, many different sock accounts.

Musa: Oh, yeah, just forget about those. Those are my old ones. It's a long story. Okay, Musa's my
real name. You saw my old Facebook account. Do you know what I was doing there?

Jerd: I don't know what you were doing. To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I can even trust
you. I don't know what your agenda is. I always see you; you're always there somewhere lingering
around. You make comments that are a little weird sometimes, and I don't know who you are.  I
remember speaking to you. I know you have a brother. I don't know if that's true. I guess you got
two of you guys, and both of you have different accounts, right?

Musa: He was my brother.

Jennifer: Hmm.

Musa: So, it's a long story. Everyone, are you still there?

Jerd: Yeah, I'm still here.

Jennifer: I am.


Musa: Yeah, it's because the way I talk sometimes, I'm not coherent. So that's why, when I leave
a comment, it seems confusing. It's a long story. I think you and me, we first came to contact back
in 2013, maybe?

Jerd: Hold on. I'm sorry. I'm doing 10 things at once.

Jennifer: Well, Musa, what is your  interest now in rejoining , about all of this?  Where are you
coming from?

Musa: I just got some interest in the truth community, or the conspiracy community, even though
you don't call that conspiracy, because long story, Alan Watt would say this and that. I came across
Glen's material because of Alan Watt's material, and that stuff.

Jennifer: Well, I personally, I don't like this link for, under conspiracy community, because I,
unfortunately, was there, and that was because of David Icke and the media's agenda . I was
used. Then, I was used for the purpose I was put in that position, should anything else ever
come up, in which I might become involved, which some people already knew about Glen and
I and our history, which goes back many, many years before I ever became involved in t he
conspiracy thing with David Icke thing.

So, now, it gets used against me to, in order for people to say, she's nuts, she's crazy, she's off
her rocker. Which is being said about me. I don't care, because I know what happened, the Cell
investigators know what happened, Creation knows what happened, and Glen knows what
happened. So, I, at the time, did not realize what was going on, and everything that I told David
Icke became his story ⇢ history. Everything that I told him, my story, got lost in what was being
done with me.

So, I ended up, because of all of that, meeting people on the conspiracy circuit that put out all
these things. As far as I'm concerned, they're either, they don't have a clue and they're being
used, or they know exactly what they're doing and they are spreading stories . They are being
funded, they are being allowed to have their material out, and all these things are being
allowed. They are no threat to the system ; none. That's why they're out there . They're not a
threat. Glen was a threat. That's why...

Musa: Ok, so- yeah, continue, continue.

Jennifer: Okay, so, Glen was a threat to the system. I'm a threat to the system. I know what it's
really all about,  I know what's going on , a nd I was purposely kept out of Canada . I was
purposely kidnapped out of our front yard in 2015 by criminals, the OPP , who handed me over
to the CBS A, who took me to the border, and they threw me out on the road three times in
about 12 hours. Then they put me in jail, and they threw me out on the road again on US, 9-11
that year, and they put me back in jail because I walked back again.


Then they illegally took me out of Canada against the order of a judge . So, I know that I'm a
threat to them just because I know the truth. I have a project. It has to be done. It's been passed
on to me, and I have to return at some point to Canada to that property, and that project has
to happen. That is what Creation wants done, and it has to be done.

Musa: Okay. So, I do agree with you.  That's why I don't like using the term conspiracy.  I do
know…like, earlier… because I mean, really listening to you or Alan Watt, because they're the
alternative media. They're still with the system, and they still promote  lie by omission and that
kind of stuff to misdirect people. [inaudible] in a sense, same conspiracy sort of goes against me,
well, partly, because even then, they sort of created a lot of that.

Jerd: Oh, hey, Musa, I wanted to ask you; I remember you telling me that you had some type of
relationship with Jordan. Do you remember Jordan Womble?

Musa: I know Jordan Womble. What about him?

Jerd: How did you guys know each other?

Musa: Let's recap here, okay? So, my name is Musa. Back in 2012 I was into truth videos. Back in
2009, I was a young kid, like, 12, maybe 15, 14 years old, and  just the usual stuff, like 9-11, and
here and there. But then, of course, there's Alex Jones. Then slowly with passing interest, I went
back and forth into this kind of stuff.  Back in 2009, there was a YouTuber named Matthew
Ringlows. Do you remember that guy?

Jerd: No, I don't know who that person is.

Musa: Matthew Ringlows; his channel's called Earth Last Hope. He was pretty popular on YouTube
in the year 2009. I was a big fan of his videos, but then what happened is  he went to jail. I don't
know what happened.  So, he le d me to Bill Cooper's material because Matthew Ringlows was
saying that Alex Jones plagiarized Bill Cooper . The same way how we say Alan Watt plagiarized
Glen Kealey. I watched Bill Cooper's material, and then I liked his material, but then his material
led me to Alan Watt.

So, I liked Alan Watt.  Alan Watt had really clear -cut stuff, and it was pretty deep.  So, then, of
course, I found Glen Kealey, and then Jordan Womble, I found his stuff somewhere in between. I
was going between Alan Watts' material and Glen Kealey's material, and then I saw a picture of a
long-haired dude, and that turned out to be Jordan Womble.  So, I did watch a few of his clips ,
here and there. Then, around that time, that's when I talked to you, first reached out to you, when
I saw Jordan Womble's material. Right?

Jerd: So, okay. I'm just learning how you even found me.




Musa: Because I found you through G len Kealey's material, or your channel, and then you had
Glen Kealey's videos. Apparently, unfortunately, Jordan Womble- you know he committed suicide,
right?

Jerd: I heard that he died, and it was apparently, supposedly, through suicide. So, I don't...

Musa: [inaudible] Jordan Womble; I'll give you a quick two cents of what he did.  He acted like a
control freak to some extent, and if you saw this guy, he trans -substantiated himself with - he
found G len Ke aley's material, and he star ted appropriating his stuff like  his own stuff . I t's
confusing, there's a lot of things, and he started stuff on his computer. But then, over time, I feel
like Jordan drifted away from Glen Kealey's material, and moved more into the new-agey type of
stuff, and he started mixing things here and there.

I don't know, I think he just trans -substantiated himself, brainwashed himself, he acted like a
control freak from here to there. Then he shot himself in the head because- he first got a criminal-
record by uploading a policeman's voice, or something like that . His second criminal record, he
lost his job, and then he talked to some British guy named Old Kendall, who convinced him that
if he wanted rainbow aura, then kill yourself and go to the next dimension. It's just this new-age
spiritual stuff he was brainwashed with, that's all I know about. I was never really into it.

You told me he was a psychopath, because he almost assaulted an elderly person, so I sort of like-
I agree with you, and I just   start [inaudible] digging deep into Jordan Womble's material. Also,
the reason why you see I had these [inaudible] accounts was because I was brainwashed myself.
You saw me posting shit about Afghan politics on my Facebook.  It wasn't against you, though. It
was more against some Pakistani, Afghan, people on the internet I just disagreed about . Also, I
was Muslim, and that's why I had [inaudible] there. That's why you see [inaudible] in there.

Jerd: Yeah, I remember you used to post  every day about  this Afghan and Pakistani politics or
something.

Musa: Yeah, it's a long story. We can talk about it later on but I'm past that. I was wasting my own
time over there.

Jerd: Is that where you're from? Where are you from, exactly?

Musa: No, I'm from Pakistan; that's my nationality. But it's super complicated. I don't know what
happened to me, but I just got super interested into genealogies and ancestry. So that's why this
whole thing came about. But then the politics stuff just got me on the hook . I transubstantiated
myself; I got drunk on my own shit. So that's probably how I was when you found me back then.
Does that make sense?

Jerd: A little bit.




Musa: I do have a brother; he was somebody else. It's only because I thought Glen's material was
interesting, so I tried [inaudible] brother [inaudible]. You talked to him too, right?

Jerd: Mm-hmm.

Musa: I think he stopped going into the material, only because he was saying, Glen's stuff was
too hard to understand. So, I think he's not buying into it anymore. Or at least the alternate reality
stuff.

Jerd: Um, okay. Well, we're supposed to have somebody else. He’s emailing me.

Musa: So, is Danea or Zach coming?

Jerd: Who? Danea? I sent him an email, but he's with his family right now. He might be…

Musa: What about Zach?

Jerd: You know Zach, you speak to him?

Musa: He commented on my channel. So, we also talked within ourselves, here and there.

Jerd: You also talked to what, you said?

Musa: I think I commented on his videos . Then he offered me to chat with him, I gave him my
number, and so far, we've talked one time over the phone. We were going over gun stuff, and of
course, other things too. I'm telling you, I was brain - it's a long story. Next time, that's not right
now, because I guess you guys gotta focus on something else.  I put my face on my YouTube
channel so that you guys know who I am. [inaudible] right?

Jerd: You still have here, Jenny?

Jennifer: Yeah.

Musa: Pardon?

Jerd: Alright. Ben, are you there? Let me see if Ben is here.

Musa: Who's coming?

Jerd: There's another guy. I don't think you know him.

Musa: Okay. What's his name? I might know this guy. Is he from Investigations?


Jerd: Maybe. No, I don't think so.

Musa: Is his name Ben Smart.

Jerd: He might be in there. What? Yeah, Ben Smart.

Musa: The guy, yeah. I remember him  because in Investigations he posted a video about  guys
washing dishes. Then you were saying to him, you're wasting his time, and then  [inaudible] or
something, right?

Jerd: I don't know.

Musa: Ben Smart was a guy in the Investigations group. He posted a video that you thought was-
I don't know what happened, or he disappeared, so I thought - cause maybe you didn't believe
him, but then I talked to this guy on my own with him later on.

Jerd: Well, Ben for me, he's a guy from the UK. He would do his research, and things like that. I
think he hosted some type of MMA. He's very involved in MMA, (mixed martial arts) sports, and,
I lost contact with him over the years. So, I don't know what's going on with him.

Musa: Okay, good thing he’s here now.

Jerd: What happened?

Musa: Good thing he's coming back.

Jerd: So, I guess he's been following this stuff from a distance, like a lot of people do.

Musa: I'm sorry I misbehaved. I know you probably saw me acting like an idiot. I will not make a
sock account. If I do, I'll just say it's me. I don't know, it's just, I did have an agenda. I'm not saying
it was you. You guys weren't the main target. It was the Afghan politics thing that I had over there.
I told you I used to be Muslim, and I had these religious arguments over YouTube. In case anyone
got hurt, that's what I'm just telling you what happened to me.

Jerd: So, I'm kind of just expecting other people to come on.  Jenny, you were saying something
important. You were talking about you have to go back to the farm.

Jennifer: Yeah, I have to go back, because I've been given over the responsibility now, because
there's a project that has to take place on the farm, and it has to be done. In order for things to
happen here that have to happen, before Creation takes those people that have to go on to the
next universe and leave . That's why I say it's not about trying to fight the system here . The
system here is basically tainted, and it's unfixable. It is directly correlated with why the universe
continues to expand at an ever-increasing rate, because of what they've done here . It's all
connected.


Jerd: Yeah, with that, there was a point. I think it was in 2016?

Jennifer: From 2008, I'm told, is when scientists officially concluded that the universe was
expanding, and at an ever-increasing rate, faster than they realized.

Jerd: Yeah, so it's expanding until it won't be a universe anymore.

Musa: Wait, you're telling me scientists did that in 2008?

Jerd:  Yeah, in 2008 they presented it that they discovered dark matter, and with that dark matter
they were curious of what it was. This dark matter, there's more of it than is normally supposed
to be there. Because of that it screwed up that cycle of the universe expanding and contracting.
Because the universe expands and expands, and then at some point, it's supposed to contract like
everything else.

Jennifer: Football.

Jerd: Yeah. But it's not contracting, it's expanding .
When it just keeps expanding, everything that's in
place won't be in place to function as a universe , and
nothing can live there.

Musa: So, you're trying to say , we were supposed to
go on a big bounce or something, but now we're going
to a big squeeze or a big rip?

Jennifer: Instead of crunching back down the way it was supposed to, it just going to keep
expanding, and at some point, it will basically self-destruct.

Musa: Oh, okay. Go on. Let me think. So, you want to go back to the farm, right? In Canada?

Jennifer: Say again?

Musa: You're trying to get back on Glen’s Farm, right?

Jennifer: My name is on the paperwork.

Musa: Okay.





Jennifer: The farm, I have to go back, but I have to wait until the Court cleans house up there,
and I've been told to wait and take care of the cats. There's a house clean that has to take place,
and I think it includes the  cabal up there that murdered Glen . Because they'd make it pretty
hard for me to be there if they are still there, in which they are right now. That includes the OPP,
people that have something to do with this from Kemptville District Hospital, City of Brockville,
bureaucrats in the federal government, bureaucrats in the provincial government, bureaucrats
in the municipal government, which include that of Kemptville, Brockville, and the CBSA, who
don't answer to Canada; they commit treason.

They answer to Syrian Maronite priests from the Levant. That's who they answer to. They were
infiltrated by Iranians who are responsible for what happened to me . I have been told this by
Glen, and the Cell told him.

Musa: Okay. So, you're saying that it would clean the house over there?

Jennifer: Creation will clean house. You see what happens, is that their god is done with them.
This has to do with the whole Northern hemisphere anyways, because there's supposed to be
a shutdown of the Northern hemisphere on this planet, and then within this 40 years that we're
in. So, what I've been told, is about the situation up there in Canada, is that their god is done with
them. Their god, whatever they call him, is done and is going to get rid of them.  We call that
death.

What they do is when they die, when those people die, usually a sample of their DNA is taken
by the coroner and a funeral home up there . Or, a funeral home or a coroner will take the
sample and it gets sent back to the people that deal with all the batches of DNA , and have
everything to do with the Neanderthalers down below who manage all of the recipes. Some of
that DNA sample put back into the recipe, and then they would return in another life. Because
we're all genetically engineered, and every fourth generation  they have to do something to
renew that DNA. So, these people are promised life, another life, for what they do in this life.

For example, Christians of any faith up there in Canada, like Presbyterian , or Methodist , or
Catholic, or whatever, they do what they're told, or they just do, like committing murder. Then
they go to church on Sundays and they commit the act of hypocrisy. Every Sunday, they do that
when they've murdered somebody and they go to church and they pretend like they're good
Christians; that's hypocrisy. At the end of their life, because their god's done with them, Creation
is going to make sure that their DNA never comes back on this planet again for the people that
are left here after Creation leaves.

It's kind of like, gee, when I was a kid and we used to go camping, and the last day of our camping
trip, we would be told, go pick up the trash everywhere. We're going to spend, like three or four
hours picking up trash everywhere , because we're going to leave it in better shape than we
found it. Well, it's that same concept . The Creation is going to leave this place better  before
leaving. So, that the people that are left here, don't have it as bad as they would if these people
and their genetic offspring were left free to run things and cause misery.


So that's the housecleaning, because when their god kills them through disease or however their
god does it; war, pestilence, famine, disease, car accidents, whatever, however it happens, their
DNA is not going to come back here , and neither is the DNA of their offspring, any family
members. Because they're going to be brought into trial and they're going to spend a long time
waiting in line first, wondering . Especially Bell Canada, who are really British Empire Loyalists,
who are being run by MI6.

Jerd: Yeah, you can find stuff on the internet about the British Empire Loyalists, and how they're
basically embedded in Canada.

Jennifer: Embedded all along the coast, up along the border, all the way across Canada, in British
Columbia. They're all embedded there , and their DNA is coming from the same people that
went up to Canada . They were either ousted, or chose to go after at the American Revolution .
Because the Americans didn't want to be under the British Empire, and MI6 has vowed revenge.
Which is why the LOO; that's their reason for the LOO at the SOO. A reason above them, which
is India, is to start getting rid of some of these people. Britain's going to have its own problems;
it's already started.

Jerd: Yeah, I see.

Jennifer: It's a basic cleanup operation because the whole North Hemisphere is supposed to be
basically ended, and all the people living there. This is much bigger than just Canada. But they
all have their reasons. But Creation doesn't want that DNA here, so whatever is left here will cause
a problem, a bigger problem actually, because god and...

Jerd: Genetic engineer.

Jennifer: Yeah, who wants people to think that's god, have their own design for this universe, but
they also have to be told . This message has to be personally delivered to them before leaving
this place, and it has to be done from the farm.

Jerd: Oh, we're going to bring Ben. Oh, hold on. Ben, you there?

Benjamin: Yo, I'm there, brother. How you doing, man? Long time no talk, man.

Jerd: Yes, yes.

Benjamin: Yeah, Geopolitics, Junkie, I don't think I've spoke to you before, mate.  I'm from
Manchester, England.

Musa: Yes, great to meet you.




Benjamin: Yeah, you too, mate, and also, Jennifer, as well, I've heard a lot about you through all
the calls, obviousl y. To be honest, when all the calls got deleted, I lost a lot of the knowledge,
because there's so many calls. I don't think I could ever sort of get through them all within a year
or so, just due to my family life and all that stuff.

So anyway, I've learned so much about you, but I've never actually formally been introduced to
you or Glen. I was just so shocked and saddened about the news that I got through a friend of
mine who's in the group of Jerds’ on Facebook. I just thought, I'm going to have to just call in, and
just give my condolences to you guys.

Jennifer: Oh, well, thank you, but Glen is just not here.  He's still there.  It seems , if you don't
understand, which I don't expect a lot of people to understand if they don' t have all the
information, he's not dead. Well, he is one of the dead, but he is the head of the Cell, and he's
with them.

Benjamin: Of course, yeah.

Jerd: Well, how Glen explained it was, say you're walking down the road, and you sit in a certain
position from the road, and you know you're in this position . But you go from another angle on
the other side of the road, and you can't see where you would have sat at originally, and just
because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not there, kind of thing.

Benjamin: Absolutely, brother. I think I was more upset around the circumstance , after I looked
into it, saw some of Jennifer's posts, and all that you shared in the group. I think that was the side
I was quite more shocked at, really, if you understand that point of view. But also, from a personal
perspective, my grandma, she had an unusual death this year, and I heard something about you
said the significance of 78.

Well, my nan was 77, and she was due to be 78 in November, and she just had like a freak fall with
her shoulder, and my mum and everyone pleaded with the doctors because she was inactive.
They said, she didn't need surgery, just to go on blood thinners , because she's had a history of
blood clots. To be honest, they all said it's a load of nonsense , you dont need them; it’ll all heal
up. Within a week, she had a blood clot from the main artery in her humerus,  in the shoulder,
straight to the heart, and we had to watch her have all the CPR. It was quite graphic and all that.
So, I thought to myself, it's very strange, isn't it? With Glen, was he 77 as well?

Jennifer: Yeah, Glen was 77, and December 8th was exactly 30 days before his 78th birthday.

Benjamin: Well, she was July the something.




Jennifer: Yeah, Glen's time of death was 3 :05, and as far as I'm concerned, either Creation or
they were saying 8 -0. He has always talked about the Big 8 -0. They are the problem ; the
bureaucrats. I don't know which one is saying it. Maybe both are saying it. But it's very hard. Also,
when an older person  takes a fall, there's usually death within six months. It’s very common.
Then you go in a hospital, you're placing yourself under the control of…

Benjamin: Yeah, she refused to go into the hospital. That's for sure.

Jerd: She probably knew, like, the people from her peer group. What I learned with the way Glen
died in the hospital, it made me appreciate more, elderly people. I'm scared for elderly people,
because I get the impression that the hospital just murders older people all the time and makes
it look like some type of natural thing. That's the impression I get.

Benjamin: Absolutely. That's what old people were all commenting about my mom's death,
because I said , [inaudible]  to the hospital , a nd they all agreed, they said, she's scared of not
coming out. It's awful. But I just wanted to also say as well, I don't know if you ever remembered,
Jerd, I think I sent some form of link about Alan, I think it's called Alan Wilson. He lived in Wales,
and he was talking about old British history.

Be had some weird theory that, to be honest, it's not important to investigate, but he had some
sort of theory that the Ark of the Covenant ended up in Wales. The only reason I would ever bring
that up is because I'm sure I've heard Glen referred to the Ark of the Covenant in some capacity.
So, I just wanted to just throw that out there, if it had any significance to you guys.

Jerd: I'm not sure I understood. You said your friend Andrew Wilson?

Benjamin: Sorry, yeah, he's not my friend. He's just like a historian. He's probably about 80-odd
years old, and he's done quite good research into lost British history about all the King Arthur's
and all this stuff, and the lost tribes of Israel and all this stuff. He's got a big theory that the Ark of
the Covenant could well be in Wales.  The only reason I mentioned it is I thought Glen said
something about having possession of it or something, but I could be completely wrong. Yeah, it
sounds like I probably am.

Jerd: Well, from what I understand, that covenant, it's been moved around from Israel, it was in
the Middle East, it was in Ethiopia.  From what I think of how it goes, wherever that covenant
went, destruction would follow.  So that's why it left Israel, then apparently it was brought to
upstate New York or something. New York is not gonna be around much longer, considering this
LOO at the SOO, and how they set up the infrastructure over here to just basically be destroyed.

We have a highway over here called Clearview, and that's what you take to go into Flushing, New
York in Queens. As you go upstate, you see the names like Waterloo and I forget the name of the
other places. A lot of places linked to water, which suggests that it's not gonna be around too
long, like it's designed to be destroyed.


That's kind of how these engineers move. You'll find if you look into who are the core of engineers
in each country, they're the ones who will be connected to all of this. Over here we have USACE,
I think they call it, United States Army Corps of Engineers. Big architecture or designs, all has to
go through them before it's built in America at least, and I know in Canada there was a...

Jennifer: The Royal Corps of Engineers out of Alberta.

Jerd: Yeah, that's what it was.  You can look them up and look at their symbol that they use up
there, which is interesting.

Jennifer: Around th e first, George Washington had designed [inaudible]he connects the G reat
Lakes over into New York. He said that all this stuff has to be accomplished by a certain time, for
the age of Aquarius.

Jerd: The age of water, right?

Jennifer: Yeah.

Jerd: And when they're talking about water, they don't just mean physical water, but they're
talking about life, right?

Jennifer: All things set flow ; there's the water bearer Aquarius.  Well, back in 2004, I went to
Japan and one of the places that I went and I was taken there, was a place called Miyajima Island.
Miyajima Island has a red gate out in water. It's very famous. The goddess associated with that is
actually a Hindu goddess, and her name is Saraswati. Saraswati is the goddess of things that flow
like water.

Musa: In Pakistan and India, there was another river that used to be there also called Saraswati.

Jennifer: Right. The goddess Saraswati. That's where the Japanese goddess came from.  That is
Indian in origin.

Jerd: Well, India would be where they kind of started this movement, right?  From being Cro -
Magnon and then it became Roma , a nd it basically just travels around the world.  Because I
noticed India is kind of important when you look at all the religions. They kind of come from there
and they go through that Middle East and they morph into Zoroastrianism, which morphs into
Judaism, Christianity.

Musa: Yeah, and Jerd, you're right. Hinduism, I just studied it a little bit, and they claim themselves
to be all paths lead to one. Hinduism, they claim to be some kind of universalist religion. But then
when you think deeper about it, what it actually means is they're like the original religion or
something like that.




Jerd: Yeah, they got a lot of groups over there, like Sikhs. Apparently, they're the ones who have
a lot of the power there or the money. I don't know too much about them, though.

Musa: The Sikhs?

Jerd: Yeah.

Musa: Well, I've met Sikhs.  I know a lot of Sikhs.  Their founder like got into school and I don't
know. Maybe next time I'll talk more about that.

Jennifer: Well, the thing that's being brought about right now and put in people's consciousness,
to say it, is Watergate. Gate in water. That is what's being put in everyone's consciousness. That's
what's being brought about by what they, Democrats, are trying to do. I see the whole thing being
encouraged on all sides like it's a plan.

Jerd: There is a plan.

Jennifer: Yeah.

Jerd: Well, from what I see, what the Democrats tend to be more vocal about, oh, it's the climate
and everything is going to be destroyed.  But yet, because they're bureaucrats, they're trying to
make money out of it.

Jennifer: They are bureaucrats, hehe.

Jerd: Yeah. They're trying to make money to say, okay, we're going to have a bill where you just
give us all this money. A lot of people are divided on it. There's a group of people when you look
at the population, they believe global warming is caused by people, which is sort of true when
you consider they can control weather and all that stuff. There's a side, the Republican side, they
tend to be more skeptical of that stuff. But what scares me is the LOO at the SOO is going to justify
a lot of the garbag e they're trying to push out there.  I imagine if a LOO happens and all that is
destroyed and made to look like a natural event , who are they going to blame?  You already see
where the blame is going to go.  People are going to already say, oh, you were right , it was the
population, because those cows farting, that's why it's so bad.

Jennifer: Well, all of this is going wherever bureaucrats  and billionaires want to take it.  So that
Glen [inaudible]

Jerd: Who’s making noise like that in the background?

Musa: Not me.

Jerd: You, Ben?


Benjamin: I'll try and mute it now. See what happens now.

Jerd: Yeah, unless you want to say something, just mute it. What were you saying, Jenny?

Jennifer: It's where they want to take it, and what's left after the LOO is over on this side of the
Rocky Mountains, and it's in Canada and the US.  Basically, that's why Western Union is called
Western Union, because it's their code. It's really about the western side of Canada linking with
the western side of the US; Western Union. But I don't know if they just believe they're not going
to have a big whopper of an earthquake off of the coast up there because they're going to.

Up off British Columbia, that one is going to  affect a lot. That's a kind of destructive thing.  It's
like the number 87. It's like you don't know what's going to happen after that. It's page 87. So, I
guess they think it's going to go one way, but I think Creation does not see it that way , that it's
all going to go their way.  But they, their god, whatever you want to call , anything that isn't
Creation is somebody's god, has got other plans. The United States has served its purpose, and
that was to get space program going. Which they did.

Jerd: So now we've been on borrowed extra time.

Jennifer: Yeah, it's being handed over to billionaires, which is the plan. Glen told me that way
back in 2005, I believe it was , that that's what would happen. Before that was ever being talked
about, that they would get involved in it.

Jerd: I've watched the movements of people  we’re told about  like Bill Gates , George Soros,
Bloomberg is another one…

Jennifer: Elon Musk.

Jerd: Elon Musk. When I look at this vehicle that he promoted to me, that tells me, in what world
would people consider that type of vehicle?  Well, I think of it as two options; in outer space on
another rock, or after the LOO and all this destruction, is that something that's going to be needed
to get from one place to another? Then you have people like Bill Gates, who just funds his money
through all these projects. But these projects are not what they appear to be.

You got a guy like George Soros, who seems to be funding revolutions. So it seems like they're all
doing different things, but the common denominator is they kind of promote this mess that we
all live in. I think all these families, all these billionaires, they all have different tasks, different jobs
in different areas.

Jennifer: Well, they are wanting to promot e space exploration and travel. That goes towards
their end product from this planet of the hermaphrodite. That will be their mode of being able
to get out there and find other places.  That's what they want. The US has done its part . They
want to shut down the whole northern hemisphere anyways.


Jerd: They want to keep that Brazilian, I mean southern region for the research from everything
they learn ed. They want to go over all the research material that they've learned over  the
millennia, right?

Jennifer: Yeah, there are certain parts of it, because Glen's told me that basically Australia is not
going to survive.

Jerd: Oh, really? I thought parts of it were.

Jennifer: M aybe some part, but I don't know what part that would be.  Certainly not around
Sydney. I was told that southern Africa; the very southern part is also not slated to go on.

Musa: Apparently, Glen, this is what he said, is that a northern hemisphere is going to go sinking
between- if you guys remember, did he mention to you guys, the Cap Continent ? and also the
southern hemisphere will be around for a thousand years, then it will be disposed of, and then
we're going to have two continents on the poles....

Jennifer: Yeah, but not all of it. They have their thousand years around that time, but not all parts
will survive.

Musa: Okay.

Jennifer: It's going to be a greatly reduced population that's much more controllable, and it's as
well, not really a population that's Caucasian, because they're done with the Caucasians too.

Jerd: And they're done with blacks too . They want the tan , as in Pakistan, Afghanistan,
Uzbekistan. They want all tans. Everything's going to be mixed. Everybody's going to be mixed.

Musa: Yeah, that's why you see everyone go tanning outside, hehe.

Jennifer: But that's the people that are more controllable. So black people and white people are
troublemakers, hehe.

Jerd: Hehe.

Musa: Glen mentioned the coal seams , the particle accelerator, and also Ald eramin. Have you
guys heard of that? Or the nova?

Jerd: Yeah, I remember that.

Musa: Yeah, okay, you can talk about that, but that's like in the later future or something.

Jerd: There’s different ways of causing destruction; LOO at the SOO is water is one…


Jennifer: He said, I don't know as much about the other areas; how they're exactly going to do
it. He said, I know…

Jerd: About Canada

Jennifer: [inaudible] About Canada and the US  [inaudible] exactly what’s done.  Because that's
where the Cell is, that the Cell is located for that area. So, they have an American branch as well.

Musa: Wait, the Cell? American branch?

Jennifer: Yeah.

Jerd: So, from what I understand, it's rocks falling from the sky, earthquakes, supernova, and
water. There's three different ways, and it can happen in any order how they want to do it.

Jennifer: I don't know which; there's some things brewing here, but I think that it's groups passing
information to their people.  You're being told right now, Rocket Man is getting ready to launch
something else up into the sky , s o they're saying, look up.  The next thing you hear is that
Betelgeuse, the left shoulder of Betelgeuse, currently, oh, well, that might supernova, but if that's
so, it already has a long time ago.

Musa: You mean Beetlejuice?

Jennifer: Betelgeuse.

Musa: It's a star, right?

Jennifer: That's in Orion, the constellation of Orion, the left shoulder.

Musa: No, I think they pronounce it Beetlejuice, the star. Are you confusing it?

Jennifer: No, you don't call it Beetlejuice. Where do you get that? That's a movie. It's Betelgeuse.

Musa: Okay, yeah. Betelgeuse, okay, I see. I thought it was Beetlejuice.

Jerd: The coding; I don't see all the coding from what I've seen in my day-to-day life. Just like the
basic stuff with the movies and stuff. For example, Star Wars, right? This is...

Jennifer: Jerd, I don't know about that stuff. There's hints of something in it, but the whole thing
is, they're telling you to look up ; look up in the sky. I know, because of what I was told by Glen,
who was told by the Cell, you should be looking at the Big Dipper.

Jerd: Oh, yeah, I remember that.


Jennifer: Yeah, it's all about look up. In this time period, also what's being put into consciousness
is “bear”. Oh, we have a new thing on TV called Man vs. Bear, and it's these people...

Jerd: Yeah, it's been out for a while, I think, though, right?

Jennifer: Yeah, and its people going up against grizzly bears. I just saw this for the first time in the
last few weeks. Like, what is the purpose of that, except to bring “bear”, bring up grizzly bears (ZZ
Top bear)? Wall Street is the Big Dipper.  The Big Dipper is a bear . That's what it symbolizes, is
the big bear. So, something's up with all of that.

Jerd: It's funny that you mentioned that with the Wall Street. I'm always hearing about this wall;
put the wall up. I keep hearing something with the president- because he gets money from these
banks, right? Or he puts his money in these banks. Something with him and the banks . I'm not
too sure about how these banks function, but don't they have something to do with how
countries are built and destroyed? Banks are a big part of that, right?

Jennifer: Banks are a way to steal money and launder money. That's the purpose of a bank.

Jerd: Okay

Jennifer: That's their purpose.

Jerd: What I was trying to say about the se films is the main theme is that everything has to be
destroyed. That's the main thing, like, the past, everything that you knew to be normal has to be
done with.  That is the theme I saw following  Star Wars. Disney  who bought it from George ,
completely changed everything, and even in the storyline, is that the old has to go, it's all going
away, it all has to be destroyed, it all has to be done with.

Everything that you thought was normal is basically going in  another direction or something,
which coincides with the whole LOO at the SOO and destroying everything.  After everything's
destroyed, it's going to be a new lifestyle  for everybody that survives.  All that stuff from the
United Nations, the Georgia Guidestones, and so on, they talk about  only a certain population
will be around, and the United Nations will be  handing out food . That's what they want.  They
want to be  the government of the world, rig ht? They want to be  the new bureaucrats for the
world, and that's why...

Musa: Jerd, is there a way to go on talkshoe on a PC, because my phone's battery is going dry?

Jerd: Yeah, it's...

Musa: The email you sent me, I can just go online and look into this and talk? Hello?

Jerd: Yeah.


Musa: So, it's possible to listen to this on your computer, right? And then discuss?

Jerd: Yeah, you can call and you can go through your…

Musa: I'll try calling right now, just give me a second.

Jerd: Alright, I put it on Facebook. You just follow that thing.

Musa: Hello?

Jerd: Hello.

Musa: Okay, okay, I can hear you now.

Jennifer: Better.

Musa: Okay guys, continue.

Benjamin: Yeah, just on that subject  of the LOO at the SOO, I  just wanted to  maybe consider,
could the reason be for the destruction of the northern hemisphere [inaudible]

Jerd: Is that you with the noise? There's a lot of noise. I can't really hear everything you're saying.
It's like your microphone keeps rubbing against something.  Are you using a phone, or are you
using a, um...

Benjamin: I'm using an internet browser [inaudible]I don't think that's my thing.

Jerd: Whoever's phone that is, it's like your microphone just keeps rubbing up against [inaudible]

Benjamin: That's weird.

Jerd: You hear that, right, Jenny?

Jennifer: I hear it…I don't know…my phone…I've been holding still this whole time, I just have it
up to my mouth, and I'm not moving.

Jerd: I don't hear it now.

Benjamin: Yeah, that's strange, that...

Jerd: Is that you? That's you, right, Ben?

Benjamin: Yeah, I'm still here mate. Is it still making that noise? Hello?


Musa: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jerd: You're on your cell phone?

Benjamin: I'm on a computer.

Jerd: Yeah, your microphone may be a little sensitive.

Benjamin: [inaudible] Is that a bit better?

Jerd: We'll have to wait and see.

Benjamin: Yeah, absolutely. Well, hopefully it's all right. Just on that topic, I just wanted to say, is
the reason for it in any chance, if there's a sort of, like they’re trying to bring something new out,
by getting rid of the old in preparation [inaudible] but is that the reason for the destruction? So,
they can prepare for what life would be like under that circumstance?

Jennifer: Seems like every time [inaudible]

Musa: Hello?

Benjamin: Hello?

Jerd: Yeah.

Musa: Try using your phone.

Jerd: I'm on a landline phone, so I don't have any interference.

Benjamin: Let me have a little look now.

Jerd: Maybe you could try hanging up and calling back in?

Benjamin: Yeah, good idea. I'll try that.

Jennifer: Wow. Even when he was trying to talk, it just got worse.  It's like – this is kind of Bell
Canada kind of stuff?

Jerd: Stuff like that would happen to you?

Jennifer: Me and Glen? Oh yeah.


Jerd: I remember I would speak to Glen , and you have to laugh at it after a while, because they
did it so much with Glen. It would be always when he's saying something really, really important,
and they just try to…

Jennifer: We would be talking on the phone, and we'd be hung up on about, I don't know, I think
one time I counted ten times in an hour ; it hangs up.  And other things, all kinds of noise, and
people coming in on the line, and all kinds of weirdness. That's Bell Canada stuff.

Jerd: Bell Canada, for anyone interested, if you look into the history of Bell, they kind of try to
hide who they are [inaudible]

Jennifer: There we go again. Jerd?

Jerd: Yeah.

Jennifer: You hear that?

Jerd: Yeah. I hear it.

Jennifer: It's kind of confirmation.

Benjamin: That's really weird, guys. Can you hear me at all?

Jerd: I hear you now.

Benjamin: Has it gone, all that weird noise?

Jerd: MI6, man, hehe.

Jennifer: Hehe.

Benjamin: Aside from that, or a pair of dodgy earphones, I'm not too sure what it is.  But these
are really good earphones, to be honest, so I don't see really any excuse for it.

Jerd: You've never had any issues with them before?

Benjamin: In all honesty, never.

Jerd: Maybe it's the talkshoe itself. Maybe it's the site we're using.

Benjamin: Absolutely, mate. Just while you can maybe hear me, I'll just quickly say, the point I
was trying to say is, do you think it has anything to do with that star?  I think it was called Alger
Romaine [Alderamin]. All the things that you just discussed; the LOO in the SOO, the destruction
of the northern hemisphere, just all to be done by a specific…


Jennifer: We were told, okay, I think I put a picture up on the site.  I think it was August 2017 or
16; Homer's Home Run on Rideau. It was about the Big Dipper is supposed to look like it has a
leak, and a star is supposed to either dim so much that it looks like it's not there anymore, or it's
something along those lines, and I don't know which star it is.  That's supposed to be around the
time of the LOO.



Jerd: You said it was called Homer? That post was called what?

Jennifer: Homer's Home Run on Rideau. It's about two cats that are…

Jerd: I remember that.

Jennifer: Yeah, that's what that post is about. It's supposed to be about that, and Glen said it had
to do with precession of the equinoxes. Because they know thousands of years in advance when
it was going to happen again. But he said it was linked to that, and of course, Homer's Home Run
on Rideau, it's 2016 or 17. I think it was August, I believe.

Jerd: Big Dipper Leaks on Bureaucrats.

Jennifer: Yeah, Big Dipper leaks on bureaucrats.


Jerd: Oh, it's a picture. I remember that picture. That was my wallpaper on my phone. I looked at
that every day. I don't know, Ben. In the older talks, that's discussed, the Big Dipper leaking; Glen
kind of goes into it.

Jennifer: We were talking about it before anyone ever put anything out about bureaucrats…

Jerd: Yeah, I think all that interference, I just have a feeling that all this technology that we have,
it's not under your control. It can be hacked and messed with from another location. They can do
that.

Benjamin: Of course, but it could be potentially because I'm obviously from Britain as well. Maybe
not [inaudible]. I was just wondering maybe if that was one of the reasons, because I think when
you were talking about that star [inaudible] replacing itself as the North Polestar within, I think it
was 26,000 years, if I recall right. I just thought to myself, was that maybe an excuse for trying to
begin anew, starting from fresh, if you get what I mean, the reason for the destruction? [inaudible]
Glen was saying how it would destroy all the plates of the Earth.

Jerd: Oh, that's something kind of different.

Benjamin: That's something different to that exactly, mate.  But I think we got cut off with the
weird interference. So, I think you missed some of the stuff I was saying in between it, but yeah.

Jerd: You're talking about Alderamin. Every 26,000 years we have a new North Star. The current
North Star is Polaris , and it basically signified a benchmark of polarizing humanity to where we
are at today. But the new North Star is Alderamin, which is 100 times the luminosity of the sun.
When it comes into place, nothing will be able to survive on the surface of the planet. Which is
why you have people like the Neanderthalers who have [inaudible] to avoid things like that.

Benjamin: Absolutely, mate.  So that's what I was basically thinking.  [inaudible] i t's about
colonizing the rest of the universe.

Jerd: Ben, can you mute your phone?

Benjamin: Absolutely, mate. I'll just shut it down.

Jennifer: It's a lot of interference.

Jerd: Yeah, it's kind of frustrating, because I'm trying to hear.

Benjamin: Yeah, I'm sorry guys. I can imagine how that’s a pain because I actually can't hear as
well. That's the irony. It sounds perfectly clear.

Jennifer: Yeah, well, just shows how much [inaudible] don't like people [inaudible]


Benjamin: Absolutely, guys. Well, on that note, because it's just approaching like 11pm, I may
have to leave you anyway, guys. But I really wanted to call in just to speak to you, and hopefully I
can join in further calls , and we can continue discussing it all.  It was a pleasure speaking to you
all.

Jerd: Okay, yeah, well, I'll talk to you again.

Jennifer: [inaudible].

Benjamin: [inaudible] Anyway, take care, guys. Best wishes.

Jerd: Alright.

Jennifer: Yeah, you too.

Musa: Take care.

Jennifer: Make it really hard for people to know what's going on.

Jerd: Yep. They sure do. But, keep on moving. Keep on as long as you stay determined.

Musa: Hello?

Jerd: That didn't stop me over the last ten years.

Jennifer: Yeah, well.

Musa: Hello?

Jerd: Yep.

Jennifer: Yes.

Musa: Okay, yes. So, you were mentioning that they'll be cleaned from the farm, like how Creation
is going to remove those guys, right?

Jennifer: Remove what?

Musa: They remove the cops or the bureaucrats, how you were mentioning to me earlier, right?




Jennifer: No, Creation will clean house.  This whole thing is what is g oing there in that area
because it all has to be cleaned up. Up in the region of Kemptville; that part of Ontario. There's a
lot going on up there with what they're doing with people up there.  It's what they're doing to
seniors up there. That whole area has a lot of apparent criminal activity going on . This has to
do – it goes way back [inaudible] OPP [inaudible] in Canada. My goodness, there goes all of that
interference again.

Musa: Yeah, yeah, it's a bit hard to hear you.

Jerd: That's your phone.

Jennifer: My phone?

Musa: My phone?

Jerd: No, not your phone. Musa's phone.

Musa: It's my internet. I lost connection, so I got a wire on this computer.

Jerd: Well, I'm just saying that's where the interference is coming from.

Musa: Oh, yeah, I got to charge my phone next time.

Jennifer: The OPP relocated their headquarters to Orillia. It's in the path of all the water. They
have been given every chance to make right what they've done. They've continued to drive the
getaway car for criminals, as Glen said.  They did this to me, and then they're the first ones to
show up at the farm. They were there. According to an email from one of their own, that Glen
wanted to go to the hospital, no, he wasn't given a choice . He was told, if you don't go, we'll
arrest you.

So, he was taken to the hospital where he was poisoned at an even faster rate, and he was
being drugged. Then he had nurses at the hospital locking the bathroom so that he couldn't use
the bathroom in the room, and it would make him go down the hall. Everything that was being
done was to kill him fast.  He wanted a liver biopsy.  He died the day before the liver biopsy
would have been done.

I was on the phone when the doctor was telling him, well, no, we don't know that it's liver
cancer, we'd have to do a liver biopsy to really know that. So, that was not officially diagnosed
at the time . However, according to an OPP cop, one of their own, that  she's already emailing
somebody, because I got a copy of that email saying that he'd already been diagnosed. So, who
is she to pass that information around, and who is she to give that information to someone
who's not even a family member or anything else, who wouldn't talk to me either. She wouldn't
talk to me. So, the whole thing is suspect.


Jerd: I find that very suspicious that she wouldn't even talk to you.

Jennifer: Well, her father; like father like daughter.

Jerd: It's like they just know who you are, and they’re just scared you're going to figure them out.

Jennifer: Well, Glen told me you're a non-person. I'm a non-person. We're a non-person.

Jerd: Don't they call that in law, persona  non grata, right?  It's like a person who’s not
acknowledged.

Jennifer: Non-person is a legal term. So, I guess I'm a non-person who would also be considered
incorrigible. This again, though, is the OPP. They have indicted themselves into a criminal
conspiracy that is ended in murder . It isn't even conspiracy to commit murder ; it's already
murder, and they have indicted themselves in on it. They have sealed their fate. They were given
the chance, and they have passed it up.

Musa: Okay. I'm thinking here.  So, the farm right now ; I know your name's signed over there,
right?

Jennifer: I have been given a task, okay, and I have to complete the task.  It has to happen , and
there are people that don't want it to happen. They want the property, and they don't want the
task to happen.  Now those that want the property , may want it for other reasons known to
them, but there are those that know what's supposed to happen there , that don't want it to
happen, because it changes the game for them in the amount of control that they have in the
universe. They won't want it to happen.

Jerd: What groups of these people? So, from what I'm understanding what you just said, you have
certain groups who have their own reasons for that place, and there are other people who know
what's going to happen on that place, but they're trying to keep it from happening. What groups
are these? Who are these groups? Is it just the bureaucrats, or is it –

Jennifer: There's so many groups I don't even know all the groups. But you have genetic engineers
who don't want it to happen.

Jerd: Who? Like nuns and all that?

Jennifer: I don't even know anymore where – the nuns, how much have they really got control
anymore. Because the only thing that I understand right now is that Creation is in control.
Creation is the real one in control here . Anything that's been allowed to happen is because
Creation knows where things are going.

Musa: So, what you want to happen is the 13 people thing that you talked about before? Is that
what's going – that should go on?


Jennifer: What? Say again?

Musa: The 13 people, critical mass.

Jennifer: I know that there's a project that has to be done before we can leave, and, yeah, there
are 13 people. I don't know who they are. I have my ideas of who some might be, but I don't know
who are the 13.

Musa: Glen, he talked about this.  He did mention this quite a bit of times.  Jerd, you know this,
right? The 13 people?

Jerd: Mm-hmm.

Musa: He was saying 30 of us go to farm.  Out of 30, hopefully we have 13 functioning brains or
something like that, to change, I don't know, create some kind of force. Something like that. That's
what he told us.

Jennifer: Well, if god creator works by, and brings about, by what comes out of your mouth, which
is what I'm understanding at this point in time, and that is speaking about what god wants instead
of what Creation wants, then that ’s how things have been happening . Because a whole lot of
people are – there's suggestions about what is going to take place, and they bring it about by
having people talk about it, because it's about quantum mechanics and quantum physics.

That's what it all boils down to, because I'm trying to understand some of this now. I'm looking
into quantum mechanics and quantum physics, which Glen seem to know about, and which I'm
trying to comprehend at this time, and I'm researching it.  Then we create a lot of stuff by what
comes out of our mouth. Like I have created a lot of negativity because I've been negative. So,
I'm trying to understand, and I don't want to be negative, and I'm done with all of that. I don't
feel like bringing about what god wants.

Jerd: Well, one part of it is the language that we have to deal with. The English language, for one,
is just completely garbage. It's a manufactured language for this period in time. Every word that
we spit out has different meanings to different people. I remember the whole thing about willing
your will. You can't go about it using language. It has to be a different way.
I guess it starts at the thought level, so a real thought is imagery. Me personally, say I want to will
my own will, it's not something I say that comes out of my mouth.

Musa: That's what he said, though.  He said, willing – I don't know what he said, though.  It was
like 13 people willing our will, not creator's will, something like that.




Jerd: Yeah, well, 13 people change the universe, and three people for a world, which kind of
suggests why the system has always used, moved, had these projects in three, like religion, for
example. They always seem to come in threes. It's because they wanted to change the world, and
they did, and they used us, the slaves, to do it.

In this life was the life I learned about Creation and how I don't want to be their slave anymore,
and I made that decision when I was on that farm. I had my agreement with Creation. I was kind
of scared, though, Jenny. After, talking about it with Glen, I said, this is my honor and all that stuff.
He said, yeah, it's your honor on the line. You make that agreement.

Jennifer: Mm-hmm.

Jerd: I never really talked about this with much people, because it's something I can't really expect
people to believe. But when I did the circuit and made that contract with Creation, something I
experienced – I've never experienced this in my life.  Something changed around  – it had
something to do with feeling, seeing, touching.  Something around just changed. I don't know. It
was something happened. I cannot even share with people.

But I knew inside that it was something to do with Creation, but I can't explain that to people.  I
usually keep it to myself, or maybe I'll talk about it with somebody else who would even consider
that, because it's not something I could share.  It's kind of difficult, stuff like that.  When I was in
Canada, actually, it was more than one time.

There were certain things that happened to me that I saw, and experienced. But it was things that
happened in such a way you can't prove it to anybody. I could not prove that to anybody. It's just
my experience. But that's all you really kind of need in life.  You need your own – it's all about
learning from your experiences, I guess.

Musa: Okay, yeah. I'm thinking here…uh

Jerd: Do you speak multiple languages, Musa?

Musa: Yeah, I can speak – pardon me?

Jerd: Yeah, because I noticed, like, when you talk, I guess English is not your first language, right?

Musa: No, no, I can speak – yeah, I speak Urdu. It's this other language in Pakistan. It's just like,
it's confusing because there's Hindi, another language, but there's a lot of politics there, and I
don't want to talk about that. Does that answer your question?

Jerd: I noticed when you talk, it's like you have – it's difficult for you formulating  what you're
trying to express an idea to other people. Like, you have the idea in your head, but when you're
speaking it to people –


Musa: No, it's not – I don't think it's because of English. I think it's just the way I'm thinking. You
see my comments, right? I just have this non-linear type of thought process. I think it's more to
do with that. I don't know how to explain it.  You're saying I'm incoherent or something.  Is that
what you're saying?

Jerd: Yeah, at times you can be. Your sentences aren't, like, all put together. So, I'm trying to piece
together what you're saying, but you'll start off and then you'll just stop.

Musa: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Jerd: I don't know.

Musa: No, it's just something I got to focus on. I have that thing, the scatter thing, or whatever
you call it. What's that noise?

Jerd: I don't know.  It wasn’t me. I t sounded like a beep.  It sounded like a notification from
somebody's phone, like a beep.

Musa: It's not my phone because I'm not – my phone's put away now. I'm on my computer. There
are some things I want to ask you, J erd. So, right now, you and Danea, you guys are talking with
this, right?

Jerd: What do you mean?

Musa: So, I'm wondering about the other guys, like, Warren. Do you know who that guy is?

Jerd: Mm-hmm.

Musa: You still talking to him or is he still around, you see here, on the Internet?

Jerd: No, I don't speak to him. I haven't spoken to him in a while.

Musa: What about – you remember the first time when you guys, like, say you were with Alan
Watt, right?

Jerd: If I remember Alan Watt?

Musa: No, I'm saying that you used to research Alan Watt material before you found Glen Kealey’s
stuff, right?

Jerd: Yeah, yeah, I used to research a lot of Alan Watt.


Musa: So, I do remember the forum.  It was called Outlaw Forum. It was a guy named Andre or
something like that. They were doing investigations, and then what they did is  they discovered
that Alan Watt plagiarized Glen Kealy or something.

Jennifer: Outlaw Forums, okay, they are simply people that were involved to make things more
complicated and to mess things up.

Jerd: Oh, you remember them, Jenny.

Jennifer: I remember them because they used to piss me off what they said about Glen.

Jerd: Yeah, I remember that.

Jennifer: I do not have time for any of them.

Jerd: Yeah, Outlaw Forums was many different people who in different schools of thought, and
they all seemed to gravitate to that forum, and there were people…

Jennifer: They were disinformers.

Jerd: Exactly, but that's in all forums. But those days are over. That was when me and Danea would
go in and  be researching and communicate with other people who were researching similar
topics. It used to be, at least for me, it was forums . But now, social media has changed all that.
It's not the same.

There were some people that I talked to who were okay, but then there were always a lot of
people who attacked me on many different forums. But then I learned the Internet is not a place
– I mean, the best way, if you want to get a point across, like, say, a YouTube video, just put the
video out and don't even allow comments.  The way they design that system is – you see what
comments are, mostly.

Jennifer: Well, because they have spammers. Their job is to go out and just take everything away
from what the person is trying to say.

Jerd: Exactly. So how you do that is just don't even allow comments. You want to ask a question,
email me. Here's my phone number if you're curious about this stuff.

Musa: Okay, yeah. Fine. More appropriate, I guess.  Okay, that's good. What else is there on my
mind? Do you have any questions for me, any of you guys?

Jerd: Not really. I have to wait a bit longer.

Musa: Jennifer, you got a question for me?


Jennifer: No, where I'm coming from, Musa, is that I don't really get a whole lot into discussing,
well, let's compare Glen against this person , or that person , or what they said , or something,
because I don't believe anything else that anyone else said.  I don't care what they said.  I know
what Glen said.  I know where it's coming from.  I don't even talk about myself as believing in
Creation. I already know Creation is the ultimate, highest truth, and that anything else is not
even real. I'm not trying to insult anybody. But I'm 64 years old, and I'm not a kid.

Jerd: I remember there was a time when Glen used to say that exact same thing, I'm 64 years old,
and now you're saying it.

Jennifer: Now I'm saying it. Well, I have a responsibility. I have a job to do. Like Glen said about
our wedding rings was my ring represents the end , and yours represents the beginning.  So, we
have with Glen going on to be with the Cell,  and doing things from that place now . We have
another phase we're into now of this whole thing, which would be, I guess, phase two, and
number two is number one.  It's the most important thing right now . That's getting this thing
going at the farm. It has to go. It has to happen. It's not about me. It's just that I've been put the
responsibility on me now on this end. So, it's about making sure that that gets started and gets
going, and that things that are supposed to take place, take place, as far as from this end of
things.

Musa: Yeah. The thing is, so I am Canadian. I live in Canada right now.

Jennifer: Yeah, well, things have to happen on that property, and I have to be there for them to
happen.

Musa: How can you be there if they kicked you out three times? They deported you, right?

Jennifer: Like I said, it's called house cleaning, and that's going to happen very soon.

Musa: So, you're saying, by chance, whoever is stopping you will  disappear, and then you'll be
able to cross and get in there?

Jennifer: Whoever is causing the problem, which is basically they have the names of every single
person, they're going to be taken out of the way.

Musa: Who has the names?

Jennifer: The Cell has the names.

Musa: Yeah, the Cell.

Jennifer: Yeah, there’s already arrest warrants issued, okay?

Musa: Okay, I heard, okay.


Jennifer: When arrest warrants are issued, then what that means is that whenever they die ,
and I don't know when that will be or how that will happen, then they're going to be met and
put in their place so that they're going to be in line to go to Court. Then they're going to go to
the Pineal Court, they're going to get their trial, and they're not going to be able to say what
they want to say. It's all going to show from their pineal gland up on a screen.

They'll be asked a question, but that will show on the screen in answer , and they will be tried
on their actions or lack thereof.  They're either going out the door that goes to paradise, or
they're going out the other door , and guess what? Glen walks them out that other door.  First
place they go is to somebody sitting in a red chair.

Musa: You.

Jennifer: And that's me. They're going to tell me I was convicted of this, and oh, please, please.
I'm gonna make the decision, and I'm not feeling too forgiving these days. I'm feeling if Creation
has decided on their fate, Creation must be right. That's how I'm feeling lately.

Musa: Now, for the Pineal Court, is this just between the people who are involved with how they
abused you and Glen, or is this all of humanity or something?

Jennifer: This has to do with what was going on in Canada and the U.S. It has to do with the
LOO at the SOO, and it's the same people that are involved in that, and the people that work
for them and did all of this stuff as well, to Glen and myself. They are apparently the worst ones.
They're the ones, and their genetic offspring will cause the most problem on this planet.

Musa: That's the thing, though.  You were saying to the house cleaning and whoever's stopping
you from coming to Canada, they'll pass away, but you also mentioned their offspring might still
take their place or something like that.

Jennifer: I mentioned what?

Musa: No, you said house cleaning, right?

Jennifer: Mm-hmm.

Musa: Okay, wait. But if they pass away, the children might replace them and they'll still do the
same thing, right?

Jennifer: Well, no, actually no, because they have condemned their children, their offspring and
their generations afterwards. They're not going to be around to do it, because that's what they've
done by their actions.

Musa: Okay, okay, I see.


Jerd: Yeah, the Pineal Court, Glen explained that. He said, you know, in the formation of human
beings, of life on the planet, when we used to be fish or the life that was living at the bottom of
the ocean, there was no light that was needed. They didn't have eyes to see, and they had glands.
That gland, in evolution, became the spine ; the reptile, which became the spine, which became
your spine. The reason why they use that word, spine, is because it's a pineal, because when you
know about coniferous and deciduous trees, deciduous trees can't grow without the cover of
coniferous trees.

When, in the formation of a human being, the first things that grow are the most important parts,
just like with coniferous and deciduous trees. Coniferous trees come first, because they provide
cover for the deciduous trees.  So, the pine, the spine, has all that knowledge.  It didn't stop
recording what was going around it.  It's everything that you experience, that you see, is in that
pineal gland. So, when everyone, everybody on this planet, when they die, they'll ask those
important questions. What did yo u know? When did you know it?  What did you do about it?
Based off those questions, it decides where you go on, where your trajectory will go after this life.

Musa: Okay. Okay.

Jerd: Creation knows all things, right?  Because it made an agreement with human beings, with
life, that we will be given; we can experience and learn and bring it back to them, bring it back to
Creation. Because Creation is not a person.

Musa: It's a process.

Jerd: It's not alive, but it knows everything.  So, it knows all about this, what these criminals are
doing in power, and they're going to be asked those same questions.  Those questions are going
to just basically condemn them to their, whatever their sentence will be, Antarctica or what's that
word? De-combined?

Musa: Disentanglement? Quantum disentanglement . Or de -combined. No, I think Glen
mentioned quantum disentanglement. Their strands of DNA don't combine.  I don’t know what
he said.

Jerd: Yeah, you're missing a bunch of different ideas, and you're like kind of all over the place.
[which was also true for me as well, at the time of this conversation]

Musa: Yeah, sorry, I should be more slow next time , m aybe, okay. What I'm saying is, Glen
mentioned quantum disentanglement. Is that what he said?





Jerd: Quantum entanglement is the concept, everything is,  they say we're all one, we're all
connected. Because when the universe was formed,  before sounds and everything, everything
was close together and it expanded.  But that quantum entanglement, even though they all are
expanded and supposedly separated from each other, they're still connected, which is what
quantum entanglement is. Everything is connected. Everything is part of that process, which is
that process we call Creation.

Musa: Yeah, so one thing I do want to mention. Hello?

Jerd: Yeah.

Musa: Wait, did someone call in? I heard someone's voice. Did you hear anyone's voice?

Jerd: No, it's just me, you, and Jenny. That’s all I’m seeing here.

Musa: Okay, so there's one thing I want to say is because, I was in my, what do you call it, the
politics, the Pakistani politics that you saw me on Facebook. Now Jennifer is talking about like the
Pineal Court putting the bureaucrats or whoever, hurt them, on trial, right?

Jennifer: Yeah, but that's not just bureaucrats, it’s CBSA, it's any lawyers, it's police, but they all
sit under bureaucrat, and everybody…

Musa: Okay…yes, explain, continue.

Jennifer: Huh?

Musa: Continue, continue.

Jennifer: Okay, that goes all the way back to whoever's giving them the orders  to MI6, to India,
Iran, to Levant, Syrian Maronite police, they're all involved.  They're all going to have to account
to Creation. They don't have to account to me. They have to account to Creation.

Musa: Yes, so Jerd, you saw me posting that material on Facebook, like nonstop?

Jerd: Yeah, years ago…

Musa: Yeah, so maybe ultimately whoever I was ranting at will have to answer to Creation then?

Jerd: I don't know. I didn't follow the politics of Pakistan closely. I wasn't into that.

Jennifer: I don't know about any of that. I know that India at the top, has everything to do with
Glen and my situation . I know that there were Iranians that infiltrated into the CBSA. In fact, I
had to sit next to one all the way to the US from Canada in the plane. That was part of it, okay, so
I know they're involved. I know CBSA is involved.


I know bureaucrats embedded within the Canadian government at municipal level, provincial
level, and federal level are involved in it. I know that there are some politicians involved in all of
this. I know that the police are big time involved in it.  They're all going to have to answer to
Creation for what they've done.

Musa: Yeah, okay.

Jennifer: They have all of their reasons. The OPP want to hide the fact that they're responsible
for the murder of Tom Byberg and they're responsible for the murder of Glen now.  They're
responsible for my being taken out of Canada illegally.  They assisted all of this. So that's their
reason. Okay. Then there are bureaucrats embedded in the federal government.

They have their direction and some of them got it from the United Nations , as a matter of fact.
Then there at the municipal level, they have their reasons , and the provincial level, they have
their reasons. But it doesn't matter to Creation what were their reasons. They knew what they
were doing, and they knew that it was wrong.

These are the people that if they're church going Christians, they go to church on Sunday and they
try to look, oh, see, I'm a good Christian, I'm a good person. They can go around and do stuff like
that, but they can go into church every week and play like they're some kind of decent person.
They're not decent. They're hypocrites.

Jerd: But that's the main theme and it's a common denominator you see on every level . It’s
hypocrisy and illusion.

Jennifer: And control freaks are the other thing. There are Courts just for them.

Jerd: If you look at American politics, you're seeing that ; it's all reflected in politics, reflected in
the movies and film and media. It's reflected in...

Jennifer: The reason that this in particular is of the highest interest to Creation is because this
was involving Glen and myself , has to do with Creation ending all of this and leaving this
universe, a nd they're trying to stop it.  That's why it is serious . There are all kinds of crimes
committed about all kinds of other stuff.  But the one that has the Court of Last Resort ’s
involvement, which is the Pineal Court , the Court of Last Resort , and has the highest
consideration of Creation and the Court, is because Glen and I were supposed to do this thing
so that the seven billion people waiting, can go, and so that there will be a next universe to go
to. They're trying to stop it. That's what this is all about.

Musa: Wait, you're telling me that the system is trying to stop us from going to the next universe?

Jennifer: The system does not want this thing to happen to this conclusion that it has to take
on the farm.


Musa: Okay.

Jennifer: Now, I don't know what the OPP know about that part of it, but they have [inaudible]
to them. That is hiding the fact that they were participating in two murders and kidnapping .
That's their interest, that’s their concern, because they certainly don't know about the other. But
that's how they're involved in all of this.  So, all of these groups at their own level , have their
reasons why. The ones at the top know what this is all about [inaudible]

Jerd: What's going on with your phone Musa? You should probably mute your phone because it’s
just interference.

Musa: Is it the same thing as Ben’s?

Jerd: Yeah.

Musa: You hear static?

Jennifer: No, it sounds like things being moved around.

Jerd: Yeah, your microphone keeps rubbing up against something.

Musa: Okay, I’ll put it on the table. Is that better now?

Jerd: You gotta just put it on mute, unless you have something to say.

Musa: Okay. I’ll put myself on mute then, okay?

Jerd: Yeah. Alright, Jenny. You were saying.

Jennifer: It seems, and I've been told , what Creation considers the worst crimes that you can
commit, are anything that had to do with- what was that?

Jerd: That was my phone; a text message.

Jennifer: Oh, okay. Anything to do with screwing up this universe, that's the worst crime anyone
could have committed, if you're involved with that.

Jerd: That's like worse than crimes against humanity. That's like crimes against Creation.

Jennifer: Well, it's involved crimes against humanity if it's screwing up the universe. Because that
is your control freak status right there, because you want it to run the way you want it, and what
you want. That's what that's about. That's why control freaks and hypocrites; there is a court just
for that.


Musa: Can you guys hear me now, or it’s staticky, or is there still interference?

Jennifer: It sounds clear right now.

Musa: Okay, so, it's not like Ben smarts audio, right? Hello?

Jerd: Yeah, I hear you.

Musa: Okay. Have you guys had a guy named Mark Passio?

Jerd: No.

Musa: Okay, alright. Jen, I don't think you heard of him too, right?

Jennifer: Who is he?

Musa: Mark Passio.

Jennifer: No, I don't know who that is.

Musa: P robably not worth our time.  Another alternative media ; those guys [inaudible]. Well,
either he's intentionally doing it on purpose or he's misguided. It could be two options. You don't
know.

Jennifer: What's he doing? I don't know.

Musa: If you have time, you can look at his material, but most likely it's just part of the alternative
media. If you want to look into, M-A-R-K space P-A-S-S-I-O.

Jerd: We're living in a kind of unique period in time, because this is 2020 . We're coming up to
2020 where they say everyone will see clearly. Well, for years now, information has been getting
released, that wasn't known before to the public. There's a group of people out there who they
call it the Great Awakening. From their perspective, they think that, oh, we're all learning the
truth about the world, about reality, it's the great awakening, humanity will awaken. But all that
is part of that 2020.

Musa: No, apparently, Mark calls it the Great Work. Does that make sense? Ring a bell?

Jennifer: Who said what? Who is, huh?

Jerd: The Great Work is making the new slaves, and going into outer space and sending…


Jennifer: That’s a masonic thing, the Great Work. Why would we want to talk about that? That's
what the Great Work is.

Jerd: Yeah.

Musa: Yeah, apparently that's what that guy was talking about, sort of.  Oh, yeah, natural law.
Does that ring a bell?

Jennifer: Huh?

Jerd: What is all those things that you're saying really have to do with what we're talking about?

Musa: No, I talked about Mark Passio, and so I was just saying some key concepts he talked about,
so I wonder if you guys.

Jennifer: You know what? You listen to too many people… You sound like you don't know…

Jerd: He's still searching, I think.

Jennifer: Too much stuff in your head, okay? One thing is that I'm not somebody who- I don't get
into conversations about other people and what they're talking about. Because as I said earlier, I
don't believe any of it. I don't care about any of it.

Musa: Okay.

Jennifer: I am already somebody who's been confronted by some things that you would have a
problem with, and that you wouldn't understand.  You're young, so no one expects you at this
point, too. You're still searching, and you want to get in to talk about all of this stuff like it's a big,
broad subject, and you want to compare Glen against a whole lot of other people. I'm not there.
I don't care about the other people, because I know that what they're saying is not the truth.

Musa: Okay, okay.

Jennifer: Glen told me point blank- I don't know, he may have told some other people, too, that
the Cell told him the only person that the dead have ever spoken to on this planet is Glen ,
through them. Nobody else has been approached.

Musa: Hello?

Jennifer: Yeah.

Musa: Yeah, I just cut off my - I had to reload my internet.  So, yeah, okay, I understand, I
understand.


Jennifer: I don't go with any religion. I don't care if it's Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Shinto, Buddhism,
Jainism, Baha'i, any of them, because they're false. I don't care if I offend anyone, and I'm not
trying to, but they are all created to lead people astray, to enslave them, and to keep them from
knowing the truth.

Musa: Okay.

Jennifer: I don't say one is better than the other. To me, they're all religions. So that's where I'm
coming from. I don't talk about other people talking about something that's something like what
Glen said, because they're not talking about the same thing that Glen has talked about . They
don't mean the same thing, and they don't know what they're talking about. None of them.

Some of them are paid to do what they're doing.  Some of them lead astray purposely. Some of
them distract; meaning to distract or not meaning to distract.  But they don't have the truth,
because the Cell hasn't talked to any of them.

Musa: So, you're saying the Cell talked only to Glen so far?

Jennifer: The Cell have only spoken to Glen.

Musa: Okay.

Jennifer: They told Glen that he had earned it.

Musa: Yes, that part I understood, yeah.

Jennifer: Yeah. So, I'm on a journey the same way that Glen was on a journey. At some point, they
spoke to him. They started talking to him, and they told him who they were and so on. They told
him things about himself that either he knew, or he suspected, or he didn't know. So, that was a
journey, a process. I’m in the same kind of process.  A process doesn't ever start with someone
walking up to you and saying, hi, I'm a Cell member. It never starts that way.

Or somebody doesn't walk up to you and say, hi, I'm the d ead, and I've come here to tell you
some things. It never starts that way, ever. The process is kind of an osmosis thing from everything
I can understand. It takes time and it takes something going on in your brain for you to figure
some stuff out first. It's a growth thing. So, it's nothing that you can make happen. It's nothing
that you have any control over. You don't just say, hey, Cell, I want to talk to you. That isn't how
it works. If they want to talk to you, they're going to talk to you. They want to meet with you still.

Musa: Yeah. That's the thing, because when he passed away, when Glen joined the Cell, now he's
with the Cell, he's the chief. That's the thing I got; I want to someday meet the Cell myself. But
what you're saying is it’s a process is like osmosis. [inaudible]


Jennifer: That's up to them. You can't just decide that you want to meet them and therefore that
will happen. That's not even the most important thing. That's not the goal in life here.

Jerd: Hehe, that's true.

Jennifer: That sounds like what a young guy would say, like kind of an adventure thing. Like you
just want to know the answers. Well, that's not how it works.

Musa: Well, no, I'm not saying I want to meet the Cell immediately. Sure, I'll go through a journey,
a long process.  It's not like, hey, I want me et the Cell. No. Do you know if the Cell knows that
we're having this discussion?

Jennifer: Oh, I guess. I'm sure they do.

Musa: Okay.

Jerd: I thought they, from what I understand, they can listen to all phone calls. The Cell listens to
all the phone calls.

Jennifer: Well, you know what? At this point in time, they were listening on Glen and my phone
calls along with everyone else on the planet. I don't know anything anymore. It's all a new game.
I mean, it's the same game, but it's a new game.  So, I would assume that they are keeping track
of things. But I know, right now, some of the Canadian branch are very busy with some other stuff
involving all of these people.

I don’t think all the time anymore about what they know and what they don’t know . Because I
think there’s something to do with quantum entanglement here , a concept of which I’m really
trying hard to understand.  When you bring death or the dead into it , and nobody here in this
realm has all the answers. They don’t have all the information. Some people that have written
about that, will know more than others.  But you're not going to find any philosopher or any
religious person that has a clue.

Jerd: To be in that fifth dimension, which is where you have to be dead to go there. No one I know
in my life has went there and come back.

Jennifer: I don't think, in a fifth dimension, right now. It's all still in this same universe.  Further
forward in the universe.  That paradise is up ahead of us in this universe.  It's a waiting place
right now. There are people waiting to get in because they had to do a cleanup there. But the-

Jerd: That used to blow my mind. That used to blow my mind how those people even get in there.
I used to wonder that. Like, how did these nuns fill up this place and they're not even supposed
to be there.


Jennifer: They had the old knowledge. It was passed down and they kept it to themselves. Okay,
they found out thousands of years back.  Thousands and thousands of years back, they found
out. They got hold of it and they didn't share that information, of course.

Jerd: That is some evil shit. That's evil. That's some evil ass shit.

Musa: I have a question. Hello?

Jennifer: Uh-huh.

Musa: OK, so I do know this.  So, didn't Glen talk about the M oho Discontinuity being where, or
the basalt mines , where your DNA is remembered by Creation or something like that?  Jerd,
remember that?

Jerd: Yeah, what about it?

Musa: Is that paradise?

Jerd: No.

Jennifer: No. That's their heaven. Heaven, down below, where you go , your DNA goes to be
remade. Then you are brought back up to be re -engineered and put in an egg.  Or in shit,
because it's coprolite or an egg; everybody's from that. Then you are put back through birth on
this planet again, and you think you had past lives because you have some kind of feeling about
it, because you have some DNA that was there then. But you can't remember anything and you
think you had another life, but you haven't, you've never been here before. When you go, you
never back. They lie.

Jerd: Hmm.

Musa: No, but from what I heard, these were old things he talked about back in 2010 or 2009. He
was saying, so when you die, then DNA goes into the ocean and then it goes into the basalt mines.
Then if Creation wants to- hello?

Jennifer: Creation stops that process. If Creation chooses, Creation stops that process, so that
they cannot do that.

Musa: Okay.






Jennifer: OK, but I'm talking about the collection of DNA at death, what coroners do; that's what
they do. That's what funeral homes do; is they take a sample off your body of your DNA. That's
what they do. Then it gets sent to the genetic engineers. It goes back to your original recipe that
you came from, and they clean out what they don't want, and they add to what they do want.
Then a part of you comes back some years from now, even with more problems, or if you're a
bureaucrat, even nastier. That's what they've been doing with people.

Jerd: Yeah, from what I understand, like, how I see things, is all these problems in the world can
be narrowed down to genetic engineering. The reason why people are so ignorant about it, and
how it continues to perpetuate itself, is because people don't know that they've been engineered.
Because the debate is always evolution versus Creation 6,000 years ago , and they always keep
the debate at that.  For most people; atheists vs  Christians, Muslims vs atheists; the debate is
always at that level. But they never tell you the third option, where it's actually a little bit of both.

Musa: Polarization. They make two teams fight each other, and the third option is not given to
us.

Jennifer: Well, there's not any teams fighting each other. There's each group, with their genetic
engineers doing their genetic engineering of people . It's been that way for tens of thousands of
years. So, this is not any new technology.  But paradise is not down below.  Paradise is a place
further forward in the universe right now . That's where paradise is.  That's where people are
waiting. They're waiting to go in there, or they're waiting in there , and they're waiting to go to
the next universe.

Jerd: But they can't go unless we do that for them.

Jennifer: They're further forward in time, because the universe is that big. They're just further
forward in time, but they're in the same universe still.

Musa: Okay. I'm thinking what happened here.  So, Glen did mention the Jachin Boaz computer
and 144,000 idiots savants brains being networked into one big brain. That's still alive down there,
right?

Jennifer: That's down below.

Musa: In the Moho Discontinuity, are there people still there?

Jennifer: The M oho Dis continuity is people d by Neanderthals, and Neanderthals are basically
female. Most of them are female.

Musa: Female?

Jennifer: Yeah.


Musa: Okay.

Jennifer: Because that's the group that came to Creation, the 13 that came to Creation, said we
want to run it, we can do it, and Creation said, okay. Then they hijacked the universe by what
they did.

Jerd: That's why you see symbols like Medusa. It's a symbol of a female with all these snakes on
her head, all attached to one head. Which suggests knowledge, wisdom, all in one area, which is
a computer. Females because they’re the ones in power.

Musa: Do you mean Amazonians, right?

Jennifer: Amazons also are down there. They have to cooperate with Neanderthals for them to
have –

Musa: I thought Neanderthals were male. Didn’t he say they were male?

Jennifer: Nope. Again, I'm trying to tell you that it's a process, okay.

Musa: Okay.

Jennifer: Glen has learned by process because in the earlier days I see some issues of the Kealey
Papers, where he talked about creator and anti-creator, and it was because he didn't know then,
he wasn't sure. That's why things are a process because you –

Jerd: It was a work in progress he was describing.

Jennifer: …Exactly, with time what it is that is really going on.

Jerd: But the main story of what he said never changed. It was just that he learned facts, different
facts, and it wouldn't change the main story, but it was – he learned a fact here and…

Jennifer: In 2010 or 11, somewhere in there, he told me, yeah, Creation is basically more or less
female, and created all of the universes, 26 of them. Then later, I don't know, I think it was after
2016, he told me that we're in the fourth universe, and it is the first one in which humans have
made an appearance. That there is a 27th area in the middle of these universes, which are all
arranged side by side in a circle, and there is something in the middle, it's called 27. He also told
me– I mean, he told me that after, but he told me that the Cell called me number 27. So, there's
some kind of something there, but I still don't know everything yet, so I'm in process.

Musa: Yeah, okay.

Jerd: Well, maybe that's part of why you're still here, too.  You got to learn, right? You still have
to–


Musa: Yeah.

Jennifer: Yeah. He told me that Creation – he kept stressing to me, no, they're not in control. But
Glen, look where they put me, look what they did. No, they're not in control. Creation is in control.
But Glen, why am I down here, I should be with you. Because Creation wants you there. Creation
has some very important things for you to learn there, and it's too dangerous here for you. They
weren't allowed to kill you. They were only allowed to make sure you were down there. Which I
didn't like to hear, but that's the truth of it.

Musa: Okay, okay.

Jerd: Danea’s calling me.

Musa: Oh, finally. Is he coming here?

Jerd: I don't know yet. I'm texting him.

Musa: Okay.

Jerd: I think going forward, now with these calls, I'm going to plan ahead and just touch base with
more people, and I guess start using different avenues on the Internet and stuff, just putting it out
there. Because there are people out there, Jennifer, that are interested and have emailed me. But
some people, they just are kind of  in their comfort zone. Some people feel like they don't want
to be known or heard by, I guess, maybe out of fear. But generally, I see that there are people out
there that are few and far between, but there are people out there who are  looking at all this
stuff and listening to all this stuff and researching. But they're kind of background.

Musa: I see Danea right now. He's on here.

Danea: What up?

Jerd: What's up, Danea?

Danea: How you doing?

Musa: Hey, Danea, do you remember me?

Danea: Who's me?

Musa: Musa Khan.

Danea: Okay.


Musa: Yeah. It’s been a long time.

Danea: Yeah, man. How's everything going?

Musa: Great. I decided to drop by  just say I apologize for my stuff on the Internet.  My sock
accounts and all that crap.

Danea: Okay.

Musa: I'll be right back.

Jennifer: Okay.

Jerd: How many Christmas songs did you have to sing?

Danea:  Heh. Who’s on the call?

Jerd: Jenny, me, a guy named Ben was on. That guy Ben Smart called, but for some reason, on his
end I think it was, there was just so much interference, man. You couldn’t even hear. To me it was
just kind of frustrating. It was just every time we'd talk  it sounded like his microphone was just
rubbing hard on a fabric or something. Then this guy Musa, his microphone was doing it, too.

Musa: It's better now, right?

Jerd: Yeah, it's clearer.

Musa: No, it's because my laptop's  on a table. I think I was moving it back and forth, but now I
guess you can't hear the interference, right? It's not the microphone. I think it's because the air
rubbed against the microphone. That's why you can hear that stuff. That's why mics need a sock,
a cover, to block that static noise.

Jerd: I was just saying before Danea, I want to try to have a better networking and getting people
together on board to get on the call, and discussing all this stuff. Because there are people, I guess,
who do want to talk about this stuff, but I haven't put a platform for people in a long time. Years
ago, we used to do that. We used to just talk with all these people who were interested in these
subjects.

Danea: Yeah.

Jerd: But then, as I was calling with Glen, it was just kind of a one, two, three person thing, and it
just worked out better like that. Glen had an important message to get out there.  Anyway, how
did it go? Did your son liked that present you got him?

Danea: Yeah. Everything was good. Is that Jenny?


Jennifer: Yeah, I'm here.

Danea: Oh, okay. Hey, Jenny. I didn't catch your name before, when he was saying. How are you?

Jennifer: I'm here.

Jerd: You eat anything good? Save me a plate?

Danea: You're always welcome. I got leftovers.

Jerd: I made some ribs earlier. I'm basically home by myself. I'm all alone by myself.

Musa: Wait, where's the family? Where are they?

Jerd: In Canada.

Musa: In Canada? Why are you not in that with them?

Jerd: Ehh, I have to work.

Musa: Oh, okay.

Jerd: I'm off today and tomorrow.  So, Jenny was saying some interesting stuff.  She actually
mentioned something about Neanderthalers being female.

Jennifer: Yeah, that's something Glen and I had been talking about for the last month before he
died. He was talking about that.

Musa: Is it because what he actually meant was they were hermaphroditic or something? Is that
what he meant?

Jennifer: Huh? What?

Musa: He meant that Neanderthalers were hermaphroditic? That's why he said female?

Jennifer: No, they're female.

Musa: Okay.

Jerd: From what I understood when I looked at the coding and stuff, it seemed like Neanderthalers
and Amazons had a relationship which could best be described as a dysfunctional relationship ,
like a really bad marriage.


Jennifer: Say again, which [inaudible]? Neanderthalers and what?

Jerd: Amazons.

Jennifer: Oh, yeah, mm-hmm. They have to cooperate to produce more. So, I think there's a whole
world they have that's not talked about here. I think they have a lot going on from what I can
gather.

Jerd: Yeah, they have their own world, though. It's just a different world down there.

Jennifer: Yeah.

Jerd: Supposedly, I guess, apparently, they're very advanced in the type of technology they use.

Jennifer: Well, if you know thousands and thousands of years in advance about the precession of
the equinoxes, yep, you already know. They know the cycles that this planet does, and they know
about the cycles of global warming. They know all of that. So, I would say that they are well aware
of what's going on right now, that it's not anything new.

Jerd: But it’s presented like, oh, we're just discovering this now. We just discovered computers in
the 80s or the 90s.  The Internet is brand new ; arpanet or whatever. All these lies and stuff. In a
sense, we're living in the past. It's like we're in their past that they created.

Jennifer: Yeah, they're not going to tell anybody. Media leaks out a bit more stuff now, but they
don't come right out and say it.

Jerd: Yeah, there's a whole reality out there that's just not told to people.

Jennifer: Mm-hmm.

Jerd: Kind of sad. Stealing, your birthright is one thing. Stealing, say, something physical from you
is one thing, but to steal your reality, to rob you of your reality, that's a high crime, I consider.

Jennifer: Yeah.

Jerd: You still there, Danea?

Danea: How long have you guys been on the call?

Jerd: We've been on this call awhile. I’m actually thinking of getting off soon, because it's been a
while. I definitely want to get on again, but try to plan it out better and do it well ahead of time
so everyone can get prepared.

Musa: Jerd, do you want to do a Google Hangout? Is that worth it?


Jerd: Now?

Musa: No, no, like for your future talks.

Jennifer: Uh, I don't think Google Hangout.

Jerd: Stay away from Google. The go-go.

Musa: Okay, okay.

Jerd: The go-go, like a go-go girl. A go-go girl is a warped version of the original dancer. So, a go-
go girl is kind of like, oh, that looks nice, but it's not really saying anything.  Which is kind of like
with Google. It's like, oh, it's an incredible system to find all this knowledge they say, but when
you look at it, you find out they actually hide a lot of knowledge.  They did like comparisons, like
when you search through Google, and you could see , say, Hillary Clinton . Then  if you Google
Donald Trump, you'll see that all the searches are all skewed in a certain way. Very, very controlled.
Because it's the media. Google, when you go on the internet, it's like the media.

Musa: No, no, what I actually meant was, on your YouTube channel, Gwap360, you can upload a
new video, like, you can stream a new video, and now you're saying Google Hangouts, is a bad
idea. You know what I'm saying?

Jerd: I don't know. Why do more? You’re already using Talkshoe.

Musa: No, but people are subscribed to your channel on YouTube, and so, I mean, like, whoever...

Jerd: I haven't uploaded to YouTube in years, because  as I'm seeing now, they're purging
everybody on YouTube. It's not what it was, like, say, 10 years ago. It's very different now. But that
was always the plan from the beginning, when they even designed YouTube, because they said it
in their name, YouTube. When a video was deleted, they used to say it was aborted on YouTube.
They said, your video was aborted.  Now it’s just telling that they're saying that YouTube is a
reference to ovarian tubes.

Musa: Oh, abortion.

Jerd: Yeah, you're going to be aborted. We're getting rid of you. It's like a little inside joke.

Musa: Well, I guess Talkshoe probably is better, because it's safe.

Jerd: I don't know about safety. There's no safety anywhere.

Musa: Well, I mean, in case they don't delete your stuff. You have the old Talkshoe before 2015?


Jerd: They deleted my stuff on Talksh oe as well.  The years from [2015]  2013 to the beginning,
when I started talking to Glen, they deleted.

Musa: Wait, it was already deleted?

Jerd: Yeah. They deleted a bunch of talks. If you go back into the archives, you'll see that it stops
at 2016 or 15 or something, and the talks went all the way back to 2009.

Musa: But do you have those talks, though? You don't have them?

Jerd: What?

Musa: The ones from 2009.

Jerd: I have audio files on hard drives and stuff, but they're not titled, so I don't know which date…

Danea: It’s a  whole project to kind of go through and sort them all out, because unless we
downloaded them...Because when you uploaded the talk, you titled it. So just the raw file of it is
just a coded number, a file number. So, we'd have to go through every single one that we have
and figure out where they were and kind of do some chronological thing and re-upload them.

Musa: Okay, I understand, yeah.

Jerd: T here's another platform called  Bitchute or something . Apparently, people have more
freedom to upload and share their material there. It's an alternative, apparently, to YouTube. Zach
and a friend, another guy, Andy, we've all kind of been discussing having a website with all of this
stuff. All the stuff Glen talked about , and kind of have everything in one area.  Having video; I
wanted to get more into  video recording and creating stuff related to this.  Zach wanted to be
involved in that. I wanted to have money to, you know, get a camera. I got to save up for that.

I just got a new computer recently, so it's kind of like a step -by-step thing for me.  It's not
something that's happening overnight. But I'm determined to start creating all this type of stuff
again. I need help from other people, of course, b ecause I can't do this stuff by myself. It has to
be a team effort, and we have to know what direction we're going in , and what we're trying to
get out there. Anybody there?

Jennifer: Yeah, I'm here.

Musa: I’m here still.

Jerd: I sent Zach the email. I guess he probably was with family or something.


Musa: No, actually, me and Zach, we planned on talking. I was going to talk with him, but then I
saw your post on Investigations, so I hopped over here and I told Zach  that you're having a new
conversation. I messaged him.

Jerd: Okay.

Musa: He was busy or something.  He told me he was available, like, around 3 or 4 o'clock or
something. After.

Jerd: Yeah, well, he never got back to me, so I assume he was  doing something with his family.
We’re at 2 hours and 53 minutes.

Musa: Yeah, it's funny, because  with Glen, those were usually  an hour, or an hour and a half ,
maximum, right?

Jerd: Yeah. Two hours maximum.

Musa: Why, though? Is it because he was busy?

Jerd: He had responsibilities. He had a farm to run.

Musa: Okay, okay. Yeah.

Jerd: I've noticed when we’re talking about things, after about an hour, it starts to turn into this.
It kind of works better when you kind of have it all in an hour, an hour and a half . Then you just
continue at another time.

Musa: Yeah, I think I agree with you. It's funny, because with Glen it was around 1 or 2 hours, but
whenever you had a group chat, that would be a while.  I think the longest one was 8 hours one
time. Wasn't it?

Jerd: No, that wasn't with Glen. Glen was not on the phone with us.

Musa: No, I'm saying when you had a group chat with other people, those would go on for a long
time sometimes.

Danea: Back in the day.

Jerd: No one's trying to listen to people for 8 hours. No one has that time.

Musa:  Maybe it wasn't 8 hours. Maybe it was mute, but it was a while.  I found your other talk
show where you had a group chat, and they were lengthy.


Danea: Yeah, those were kind of like that; 6 hours. But there was a lot more people, and that was
probably 11 years ago, hehe.

Jerd: Yeah, we were in different places back then, just discovering, learning certain things. I find
when I'm learning, you get to  bounce ideas off of other people.  Or, I learn by talking to other
people when they ask me questions. Then it makes me think in a certain way, like, oh, I think of it
from this angle. It's kind of like a skill you develop. It's kind of like when Glen developed that skill
going around Canada and giving seminars. He's actually learning. He says he's teaching, but he's
actually learning as well, doing all that.

I learned something similar when I would just talk to so many people on the Internet who were
interested in this type of stuff.  By all the different questions they threw at me, I got better at
describing and putting it into words. But at that point in time, back then, I wasn't really working
like that. I had a lot of free time.  But ever since I started  working in corporate America, it's like
they want all your time.

So much so, when you're done working, you just want to sleep.  I would get on talks with Andy;
he would call me up or something. It would be after work or something. I couldn’t even contribute
to a conversation because my brain was just so foggy.

Jennifer: Tired, yeah.

Musa: So, I think it's now a good time to conclude.  I think we should probably stop because, as
you said, one hour of discussion. Are you done right now?

Jerd: Are we done with you?

Musa: No, no, no. You were saying that you prefer to have the se talks last an hour and a half,
right?

Jerd: Yeah, I m ean, no one has anything to contribute or add to the conversation.  If no one's
saying anything, then what's the point?

Musa: Yeah, anyone have any topics?

Danea: Alright. Until next time. Let's leave it at a cliffhanger.

Jerd: I've noticed, too, when someone is say, looking at that talk, when they see three hours,
that's not something that they'd readily want to listen to.  It's like a video ; you see a video on
YouTube, three hours, you're not watching that. But if it's 15 minutes, people are more inclined
to watch that. But I think one to two hours, is cool. That works.

Danea: Or, unless you take the extra step and edit it down into segments and then upload that.


Jerd: Yeah, I could do that. That's why I'm talking about  this new computer and just having the
tools to do all that stuff. With that comes time, but really, it's just the will. If you have the will to
do it, if you want to do it…

Danea: Alright. I guess that's it then.

Musa: Okay, well it was a pleasure speaking with you, J erd. I'll have to talk to you next time, so
you guys can still talk.  Have a good night and Merry Christmas, even though I don't believe in
holidays anyways; holy days. So hopefully things are better with you. Hopefully I touch base with
you. Alright, good night.

Danea: Alright.

Musa: And let me know. Okay, see you.

Jerd: Oh anyway, alright guys. I guess, we’ll set something else up next time.