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Can I ask you a personal question? - June 2009
[Recording started late]



Glen: There's noise on the line.

Jerd: Oh, that was my phone, because the cord that connects to the mouthpiece, when it moves,
it makes a static noise. You were saying something about an allegory and...

Glen: Yeah, I was saying that when I read that
thing- by the way, it was a pair of trains in
Washington. That if I was writing the script for the
controllers, that is how I suggest they would
announce that the experiment with the Hadron
Collider was successful - a collision has occurred.
With the occurrence of a collision comes a
question, what happened?  Most likely outcome
is that it would ignite the coal seam and begin the
process of creating the moat.

Jerd: Now, how long does that take?

Glen: I don't know. I suppose it would be approximately anywhere between, one and three years,
to see the net effect of what is happening, because when you burn coal, it turns to ash . When
it's ash, it doesn't occupy the same space.  Therefore, things that are on top can collapse . Then
you have the problem of black water, which is coal and water mixed together, being heated and
catching fire and turning into basically, burning gas underground. Then you have the real gases
themselves that come off of it, and the pockets of petroleum that explode to create brimstone
(what they call it) fire and brimstone. So, all of that, I imagine, is a result of a period of time.

June 2009 Washington Metro train collision


Now we know as well , that we're in a period where they've been discussing the landings at
Normandy. The landings at Normandy to end World War II, were preceded in time with a whole
bunch of orchestrated activities to make the Germans believe that things were going to happen
that didn't happen, in order to deflect their attention away from watching Normandy. This [is]
basically what they're doing.

They know that there is a whole community of people out there watching their messages.
They're going to be putting out messages to see if people will overreact ; that could be. All we
know for certain is the window is there, we’re within the window, so can be real. It would take
a while for us to see the outcome, or it can be just talk for the purpose of misleading.

Jerd: I really don't want to wait to see if it's real or not.

Glen: Can I ask you a personal question?

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: I'm trying to figure out why so many people that I talk to , try to put me off of you.  They
keep asking me why I talk to you, getting into more and more trouble every time I talk to you.  I
said, I don't understand, I don't have any problems with Jerd. What's the problem? I can't seem
to get an answer, except people say things like, he doesn't believe that anybody can like him, and
if anybody talks to him like a normal human being, he kind of feels they got to be false.

Jerd: What?! That doesn't even sound like me.

Glen: Yeah, I can't figure out why. After Alan Watt, you're the one they attack the most.

Jerd: Oh, alright.

Glen: Why? What is it you do that turns these people off?  Are you on the air or something on a
regular basis?

Jerd: No, I'm not on the air. The only closest thing I had to being anything like that, I had a website
you can go on. It’s just basically a three-way phone conversation, and you can record it. Me and
other people talk. I don't think I'm even known like that.

Glen: That's why I couldn't figure out. I had never heard of you before you called. So, I can't figure
out, is there a bunch of people out there in the system that hate what you're doing?

Jerd: I would think so.  Sometimes I think that . Like, how my computer was shut down . Most of
the videos that I even see out there on the internet, are from me, that I put out there, so maybe.
I don’t know. Maybe people don't like me.


Glen: They think you're a booster of mine or something.

Jerd: Yeah, I think that's what it is, probably.

Glen: In any event, I just thought I'd ask.

Jerd: Why would they say that? It's people that call you up and just...

Glen: Call or send emails or...

Jerd: Oh, wow.

Glen: I've learned there are a lot of people out there that  are not nice, so I'm not surprised by
anything anymore.

Jerd: Yeah. I was just thinking the other day. I think I mentioned this to you. I'm just scared, I don't
want somebody to get sent towards my direction, and try to distract or deter me, or something.
Because you said you had people like that sent towards you.

Glen: Yeah. They're part of the role that priests and nuns play, especially if they're in convents.
They're given a computer, they're told, get on the net and deal with the net as if you were next
door neighbors. Anybody attacks religion, gang up on them, and they do.

Jerd: I think that's why they created the internet. It's a bunch of egos, really.

Glen: Basically, it's a spying tool. Let your fingers do the talking.

Jerd: Considering what you say about people being genetically engineered, like women and
everything. You never know, man. You could get a woman sent towards your direction.

Glen: That's certainly a weapon.

Jerd: How it started out, I found your stuff and I got into it. I didn't really want to believe it. Then,
seeing things in my own life. It was a painful type of thing. Then over time I started proving things
to myself. It's a path that you can't go with other people.

Glen: It's hurting for someone who believes that people and the system is real and good , and
all of a sudden , realize the things they believed in are not true . That hurts. There are some
people who can't go there. They might have feelings that the system is not good, but they're
locked in, and they just don't want to go, and that's a majority, I would suspect.

Jerd: The most painful part for me was how human beings even came to exist. That's what really
got me. What I see with people that I was friends with (and I still am to a certain extent) is they
just don’t believe the genetic engineering aspect, and that's really fundamental...

Glen: A lot of people have been taught from birth that evolution is not possible.  Other people
have been taught that evolution is everything , and t hey can't add genetic engineering as
something that can be manipulated in the world of evolution. So, you're fighting fundamental
basic teachings, and for most people that comes from their parents , and like me and I guess ,
you and everybody else, you say, would my parents have lied to me?  Parents would never lie to
me. Well, of course they lie to you if their parents lied to them , and their grandparents lied to
them. Doesn't mean they did so knowingly. They just repeat what they've been told.

Jerd: It's funny how they don't want to hear what I have to say, but I have to hear what they have
to say- all their stuff. The other day I was talking to somebody, and he told me, Jerd, I just don't
care, I don't give a shit about any of this , I don’t care at all. T hat kind of bummed me out , but I
learned from that.

Glen: I had it even worse than that. I gave a talk in Saskatchewan about the genetic engineering
of food, and how it was being manipulated through Archer Daniels Midland, and one guy got up
and said, how do you spell that name? I spelled it out for him, he says, I'm leaving now, I'm going
to buy their shares.

Jerd: Wow.

Glen: So, I guess the guy who doesn't care was not as bad as that.



Jerd: Hahaha. Everybody accepts all of this and I just can't accept everything that's happening
around me. The day-to-day, robotic slavery. So, I try to do what you said,  just keep trying to
accumulate knowledge.

Glen: Do what you can daily, with what you have daily. Don't worry about tomorrow, and don't
worry about lacking the tools. If you keep on working at it with what you have every day, more
and more tools are supplied to you as more and more knowledge comes to you.

Jerd: All that stuff, comes with time, so I'm just trying to be patient.

Glen: The only thing we don't get ahead of time is a schedule. I was telling one of the guys that’s
off the net that's here now  seeing how he can fit in.  He's planning to make this his permanent
task, so we'll see how it works out. He seems to have a functioning brain.

Jerd: I laugh at how when you look at other people who have a little bit of power,  and I guess it
gets to their head.

Glen: A lot of people who in their daily life have no power, take their position on the net as a place
where they can create power for themselves.

Jerd: Yeah, I see that too . I'm not here to get power out of it.  I'm learning and I'm just putting
what I learn on the net. That's all. You can take it for what it is. I guess either hate it or love it, as
people say.

Glen: There are other people who say, better to be hated than ignored.

Jerd: Yeah, I guess. With this stuff there are so many fields of science that you have to look into.
Like you were mentioning epigenetics?

Glen: Epigenetics, yeah.

Jerd: I'm probably not going to get into that one for a while. I'm still
looking into this whole...

Glen: You got time. You're not 40 yet. You have to go through all of
these things in their appropriate place and time in your mind .
You're writing a book, the book of your life. In that book, you have
to put the chapters in order. So, some things go at the beginning,
some things go in the middle, and some things go at the end . Try
not to complicate your life too much.  Because having a nervous
breakdown is of no use to anybody, especially you.



Jerd: I don't see myself having a nervous breakdown. I've been reading this stuff, and I'm getting
to a part where this guy is going into astronomy, and in the past the ancients used to talk about
how the soul passed through the Milky Way.  What were they talking about when they said it
passed through the Milky Way and stars?  Are they talking about
what I'm thinking they're talking about?

Glen: No, it has nothing to do with real activity that affects us on
Earth. You have to go back to the basics . It says Freemasonry is a
system of morality, veiled in allegory, and illustrated by symbols .
What symbol could a person have 100 years ago, 500 years ago,
1000 years ago, that they could all follow around the world?
There's only one, the stars.

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: So, by studying the stars, and if you've been studying the
stars not as an individual, but as a group of people, and recording
that activity, and you've been around for 100,000 years, basically
means you've seen everything that goes on in the heavens , four
times. If you've seen it four times, you have the right to make the
judgment that it's proof that it's going to happen a fifth time, and
a sixth time . So, you start thinking of the stars not as twinkling
things up in the sky, but as benchmarks on a plan, so that you know
where you are when you divide up your time , and you can divide
that precession into smaller units of time, which they call Phoenix.
Phoenix work in pairs, ⇢ so, 484 years, 16 years clean up, 16 years
of transition to the new one , and 484 years again, and you've got
a period of a thousand years.

Jerd: I've read also that Phoenix, if you break down the word, is also Phenoch or Enoch.

Glen: Yeah well, if you start with the “ph”, you have “16”. If you take the visual appearance of
“ph” ⇢  “16”. If you look at “OE”, it always fits with from where you  begin. An oesophagus is
where you put the food in . A home is where you live. Oedipus Rex represents incest, which is
basically the only way the original people could make other people, since they were all brother,
sister, or mother, father, aunt, uncle. There were no other people around. So, “O” and “E” is the
beginning and “A” and “E” is at the end.


Jerd: Now the people that practice incest today, I've heard some of them on top of the pyramid
over there them may practice incest. Do you think they're trying to go back into...

Glen: We're living that age. If you look around you, everything that is happening over the last
year or so, and especially since the Academy Awards, it's all linked to  going back in time. You
have a movie that was called Benjamin Button about somebody who's born old gets younger .
A button is a symbol of going back in time.

It's since been replaced by zippers and other locking devices that don't need to be handled the
way buttons were. The guy who's winning the most races on the Formula One is called “Button”.
The new president of Israel is Benjamin Netanyahu, a guy who used to be president; going back
in time. Everything is kind of attaching itself to- old golfers won the US Open ahead of Mickelson
and Woods, going back to how it used to be.

So why are they doing all of this going back in time?  Simply because at the beginning , people
were two in one , t hey were hermaphroditic , going back in time basically means we're
recreating hermaphrodites, except this time it's a hermaphrodite plus . It's a hermaphrodite
made up of six components rather than just the original two . ⇢ Male-female, you add
Neanderthaler, then you add a communications system, then you add high speed 24-7, you add
two-way information flow from media, and you put it all in a pod, because they consider us to
be like peas in a pod. ⇢ It's a pod for one.

So, you're getting information from headquarters aimed only at you, it's not mass distribution.
The information you'll get is basically everything's designed just for you . So, the whole thing
put together, they call a  “BELT”. Where do you get a belt?  The rocks around the base of a
mountain are called a belt because they're the hardest rocks as the pressure of the mountain
pushes down on them.

Jerd: How about Orion's belt?

Glen: Yeah, it all has to do with solidifying, hardening something . Steel-belted tires mean that
you've done something within the tire to make it tougher . In nature, water falls from the sky;
if it gets picked up by a flow of air that brings it back up, it turns it into snow . If it brings the
snow back up again, it turns it into ice , so going back to the beginning makes it tougher . Iron
you put in the fire and then on a hammer, and you hit it, and then if you use it, it's iron.  If you
put back in the fire, you get steel. If you put steel in the fire, you get chrome.

Jerd: Cro-Magnon. I watched a video after I talked to you last week. It was this crow trying to get
into a walnut. So, they did is they would take the walnut and drop it in the middle of the street
where cars would run it over. That's an intelligent animal to do that.

Glen: It’s the most intelligent of birds. But if you want to find out why they call themselves Dean,
⇢ the one with the most knowledge , it goes back to the dinosaur ⇢ dino-ruse. The dinosaur
starts off not with the giant things we see in movies, it starts off with a small animal the size of
a cat. It divides itself in three by climbing up a tree . From a tree, it learns to come down the
tree and walk on the ground when it's safe. That's where humans evolve.

Jerd: I thought we came from the ocean. I thought we were related to the ocean.

Glen: Well, that's before the dinosaur. If you go pa ssed, you have to begin
with the eel . The eel is the symbol of your spine , and the eel eventually
grows feet and legs like a crocodile or alligator , comes out of the water to
lay its egg on the beach , so all of those things are linked . The animal that
climbs the tree creates, as I said, the human on the ground, the monkey in
the tree, and the bird that flies off because the original things they did in
trees was jump from branch to branch and learn to glide . From gliding, the
normal evolution of things is you grow the wings the same way as the animal
that walks on the ground grew the legs and arms, and you fly.

So, if you look at the nature of cats, which I do all the time,
there's no doubt that that's the social engineering program
that the original women were on . Cats don't discriminate
when it comes to kids. So, if they see something that needs
food, it just basically joins the batch and feeds off the cat.

If a new animal appears on the surface called human, Homo
Habilis, and it has no place to eat, and it lives in a place where
there's any one of the members of the cat family, and it's not
presenting a threat to the cat, it looks defenseless like any
other baby, it will find a place at the table . Since they've
used the Sphinx as the model, they're telling you that you
can make a person that's partly animal and partly person.


All of the Greek mythology shows a lot of symbols like that . You can mix and match all parts of
animals over time as long as you don't try to force it to happen tomorrow. You have to let it adapt
a little bit at a time.  As the plants that grew on the bottom of the ocean , could not leave the
bottom of the ocean and come to the surface in one fel l swoop because the pressure change
would destroy it.

But by attaching itself to rock faces , and spending a few thousand years a few feet higher over
time, it makes it to the surface and has adapted to the change in pressure . So, there's no doubt
that we come from chemistry. Chemistry comes from comets and water, and therefore, the sea
is the basic place where life begins . It's a concept that water is fresh and that life is salty . The
longer life lives and dies, the more salty the ocean gets.

Jerd: That salt it becomes concentrated, I guess, at the bottom.

Glen: Yeah. At one stage of the game, if you leave it in water, the water will die.  ⇢ Dead Sea,
Salt Lake City, that kind of stuff , so it develops a system of cleansing, which is pressure.  Once
you get to about 11% salt in the water, it forces all of the excess down into the sediment at the
bottom and eventually works its way down to the mantle of the Earth's core and creates a shell
on top, and that's what we call basalt in the Moho discontinuity.

Jerd: I think what they do in their religion, is they create dogmas. I think the dogmas that they
use are partly true, because they say all the elements, fire, water, that these are purifying . But I
think this is what DNA passes through.

Glen: They're all a symbol of power ⇢ If you get too close to fire, you burn and you die over a
short period of time. If you get too much water, you drown over a period of time, but the real
killer of all is air, and air is the minute you remove it, the person dies. It's not a time frame type
of thing, it's instantaneously, because the body can't function without air, period. So, in water,
there is oxygen, and therefore you do survive a little longer than you do. In fire there is air until
it's removed and then you die.

But it's the air that has the power, and that's why they use the
concept of “air” for “IRS”, since the “A” and the “S” in Cabalarian
Count are both number one , and therefore  interchangeable.
The power they're talking about when they're talking about IRS
is having money allows you to breathe and live . Having no
money causes you to shrink and die.

Jerd: According to the economic system.

Glen: Yeah.




Jerd: Something interesting I was thinking abou t in the movie Children of Men , they're all
sterilized, nobody can have children. I thought about what you said, how the human beings today,
they watch the surnames and they basically have to renew. But you said after four generations,
the person couldn't have children anymore. So, if they just stopped even manipulating, nobody
would have children after a while, right?

Glen: Well, nobody would have children by copulation.  That doesn't mean no one would have
children. Because the design, as I understand it, they have for the super slave is one that has no
genitals, it's the Barbie doll. The Barbie doll basically means that you have no male or female
genitals, and if the creator of that person really wants to be nasty, he can give them the urges
without the tools . Under those circumstances, the role of the belly button would change to
become one where you insert an egg, because you're a female veneer on the outside, a female
person, and it is fertilized inside by the male portion that's inside.

When it reaches a certain stage of growth, it climbs out like any marsupial, and it has the
feeding stations, the breasts of woman there to carry it through. So, like a monkey, it hangs on
to its mother and feeds until it walks on its own and eats separately . So, the kangaroo, any
marsupial, is the model. The other model of course you have in Australia is the weapon they
use, the boomerang , it always returns. So, you can be certain that although you're throwing
them out into space, the task is for it to send back stuff.

Jerd: If they're going to destroy everything, including the Moho discontinuity, how would even
the computer repopulate the Earth? How can it do that?

Glen: Even though you destroy the planet as a place where people live, doesn't mean that when
you stop destroying it, it doesn't return to its original way. It just takes time. Computers just sit
there and wait it ou t, and in the world of the universe, a few hundred thousand years ain't
nothing to worry about . So, if it takes a million years, that's fine too . So, Earth is a self -
generating planet. It has what it requires to cleanse itself, given time.

So, it will do what it did before, it will basically separate water from land, it will create continents,
it will have mountains, and what the computer is planning , is to do it in such a way that there
will be only two continents; one at the north and one at the south. They will occupy the one at
the south, so their servants will basically be receiving stuff, and giving out orders from the
south.

Jerd: So,  I wonder, because the computer doesn't need anybody, and it's going to destroy
everything, is this thing even mobile?





Glen: Absolutely. It's on a levitation magnetic field, and  it travels
through the tunnels in the upper mantle, both of them on
opposite directions . Think of it like the circles around an
atom, and that's what it's doing , it's constantly working
around the atom . The atom is basically its hadron, its bags
are inside, and depending on which quarks and neutrinos and
whatever, they cause to go into each bag, they will create life,
so they start the process all over again. That's the principle of
a particle accelerator. Everything is in bags, that's why you can't see
them. They are the component parts of each atom.

But if you want to photograph them, you cause a collision , and when two bags bang together,
they throw out what's inside, and what's inside can't stay outside, so it immediately is looking
around for another bag to get in . As it enters another bag, it changes the formula of what's in
that bag, and it creates new life . Now normally when you create competing forces, one gets
destroyed that exists in the past, while the new one takes over . ⇢ That's the concept of
changing from dinosaur to people. So, from size matters, to size is irrelevant, brain matters, and
if a brain matters, it's got to have two parts to it.

It's got to have part that it works in real time based upon reasoning, and it works out the facts
as it can see out in front of itself , and t hen it must have  the ability to dip back into past
experiments of trial and error . Which all exist in the gray matter of the spine  when we were
eels and making our way up the food chain to become walking animals on earth, and cats that
climb trees and monkeys that stay there, and people who walk on the ground and birds who
fly in the air. So, all of that old stuff resides in the spine.

Jerd: Will the new slave have that, intuition?

Glen: Well, it obviously has it if they're sending Neanderthaler in a kind of a reduced state, like
a bonsai tree in the neck . So, it's obviously there to block out something. Otherwise, it would
just let it go and it wouldn't give it any information from the spine.  It wouldn't need the Miss
Piggy or Porky Pig up in the neck area.

Jerd: Where did you get the term, the piggy?

Glen: Well, it's all part of the cartoons that Walt Disney and Walter Lance put out, and what these
characters did. Muppets - Miss Piggy was in the Muppets. So, each cartoon character is basically
a symbol for real people.  They're giving you messages through some other means ; Bambi, a
deer that basically hasn't got a mother in the woods. Tarzan, linked to “tar sands”. In any event,
Jerd, it's past my bedtime.

Jerd: You got me wondering, man, who would say that about me?

Glen: Well, there seems to be more than one. So, when things start to look organized...


Jerd: Haha, alright. So that just tells me. Alright, Glen.

Glen: Okay, bye for now.

Jerd: Alright, bye.