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Back 2 the Future - August 9, 2009


Glen: Hi.

Danea: How are you?

Glen: I'm fine. Just had supper.

Danea: Ahh, so you are nice and full.

Glen: Yeah. How are you?

Danea: Living. Surviving the mental war.

Glen: Is it raining in your area?

Danea: Probably any minute, it's been cloudy all day.

Glen: Same here, although I think it missed us on its way to you.

Danea: Thanks, man.

Glen: I looked at the map and it seems to have gone under the St. Lawrence.

Danea: Ahh, yup yup. I went back in time yesterday.

Glen: You went back in time. To when?

Danea: I saw me probably two or three years ago. Even some parts of me were still there up until
when I came across you. I was hanging out with Jerd last night, and he took me to a get together
at this person's house where people were quote on quote “conscious”. They were from the fresh
off the alternative media crowd, to everything has to be organic crowd, to it's all spirit guides, and
it's all I'm psychic this, and aliens put books in bookstores for us, so we can read them, that's why
the information is out today.

The new age part is what I was kind of into, maybe, since I was even 15 or 14, just because I would
have those intuitive moments and I didn't know any way to explain it. But somehow these are the
only books that ever talked about it or mentioned it . So, I would kind of study through those
books and it's all fantasy in there. I didn't know it was a religion at the time. So, I was face to face
with how I used to think; that type of person. It was kind of interesting to hear myself talk. I was
like, wow.

Glen: How many people were there?


Danea: Let's see, at one point there was probably about 12, and then until the end of the night ,
nine, including Jerd and I. All on different levels, some kid was a vegan and he's into this magnetic
therapy where they do emotional surgery on people. They use these magnets where you put this
magnet in your hand and I can't knock you off balance , but if you don't have the magnet , then
you're off balance . Really way gone, they're way gone  - very lost. But no matter what you say ,
they’ll say, how do you know so much - they never can grasp.

With Jerd and I, we were kind of going back and forth, so if he would say it one way, and I thought
they didn't quite understand, I would just reinterpret it so they can get it. We were just back and
forth like that. Not overdoing ourselves, or losing our energy with it , but just kind of keeping a
conversation going, and pointing out things. Where he would, at times, want to go into some of
the engineering, and you could just see their faces and tell they’re not ready. But you have to kind
of…

Glen: Slowly.

Danea: Right. It was definitely interesting. I felt like Benjamin Button yesterday. But I realized how
they have these boxes made up for everybody. If you start going away from the mainstream, they
just trap you up again, and you’re in another cage. It's pretty sad, but very accurate.

Glen: They have to provide a place for everybody, common denominator is they control it.

Danea: Yeah, it was one of those nights. The guy who, I guess, arranged the get-together, is what
they call intersex. He said he’s intersex or hermaphrodite basically. He was born with both , and
he was born with no pituitary glands , so, no hormones, male or female, so he has to get them
through injections. He's 41 , but I thought he was in his late 20s . It’s just a  combination of
everything, even to the hermaphrodite. It's not even their fault, huh?

Glen: No, robots. Robots haven't broken out of the mold , yet. The similarities exist in crickets.
They grow in cataclysmic spurts , rather than slow development. You're speaking to them last
night, but they may be totally different next week.

Danea: I remembered you saying once that most people think they're open-minded, only if you're
the one changing.

Glen: They believe everything you say as long as you're saying what they believe.

Danea: They were trying to gang up on us, but it's not that I didn't care what they thought, but it
was more like I should just shake them off like it was nothing. I felt so much harder, or denser, like
my mind was denser . You could see the traps that they were trying to get you back into . They
were like the drunkards in Etidorpha; here sip, drink this, drink from here.


Glen: Well, you'll go through many of those. I'm sure some of them, you'll see in Japan. A different
approach, but same type of situation.

Danea: Yeah, t ransubstantiated. Yesterday, you were saying , that you don't think any of the
animals weren't tampered with, right?

Glen: Yep.

Danea: Now, is that why animals like a horse would have that type of hair on its neck like that?

Glen: Yeah. Mane, like a lion. Certain hairs are sensors of different things. Horse has to be sensitive
to certain conditions - flight or fright, and those hairs are present. Lion doesn't have much fright,
only when it's cornered. Same thing with human beings , different hair on top of the head , on
the side of the head, and on the beard. Each one tuned in to a different station.

Danea: Ahh okay.

Glen: I'm going to walk outside there. You shouldn't lose the sound, but I got to go towards filling
my pails for the goats of their water before they go to bed at night. If the sound changes, let me
know.

Danea: Okay. So, I guess what the difference with humans when their young would be that they're
born basically so innocent. They can't do anything for years . Whereas, other animals it's pretty
much out within hours.

Glen: Yeah, born with it.

Danea: I guess it’s because of our brains.

Glen: Yeah. What did you feel when these conversations of the past were going on? Did you feel
disappointment or judgmental?

Danea: With them or with…?

Glen: About yourself.

Danea: Well, I felt relieved that I can look back and see that I didn't have to stay there. I guess it
was part of my understanding. I had to go through that. What I was thinking was, I just hoped one
day they could see past this . So, whatever I'm saying to them , whenever I open my mouth , I'm
going to say something that's kind of gearing them in that direction. But basically, I'm not trying
to give them a religion . I'm just trying to let them see that maybe there might be something
behind what you're given. Just don't take everything for granted. I felt kind of sorry for them in a
way, because I know, I've been there.



It's kind of like seeing an alcoholic, or someone that's recovering, and you say, oh, I've been there,
I know what that’s like, I wish you would come out of it . The ones that were really, really gone,
like the one kid who's into the Federal Reserve stuff, but also on this organic trip. I don't know
what you call it. I think he might be totally gone. I don't know if he'll ever come out it. Maybe in
the future, I don't know, but it would be a long, long time. But with a guy like that I was actually
more upset that they make people into that.

Glen: You'll get over it. Everybody gets older. Everybody has more experiences . More things to
make judgements on. Unfortunately, for me, it took me longer than I should have. The important
thing is to get it before it's too late.

Danea: I was thinking, what's really the difference between them, and the masses. Maybe they
know a little bit more about what's going on but at the same time, they're still in that box.

Glen: It’s a different church.

Danea: They're basically no different.

Glen: Transubstantiation on a different product.

Danea: The kind of crowd that has rich parents and they're all environmentalists. They're kind of
trying to relive the hippie era of the 60's, with that type of mentality, but not there, they don't
really know. They were all driving Volkswagens. I could have guessed their car, and they both had
the same car. I said, I bet you drive a Volkswagen, and they were like, yeah, how did you know? I
said, it was just a guess.

Glen: What was the motivation for their meeting?  Was it just a discussion group?  Or had they
been attending something? They’re there to discuss a particular movie or a book?

Danea: Well, I think Jerd met them somehow, I forget exactly, but they were some people in the
9-11 Truth movement. So, I think they all kind of know each other , and they were having some
party. It wasn't necessarily to discuss anything particular, but just getting together. Jerd warned
me, he said, I'm just going to warn you that some people that are there are like this, just so you
know.

I'll talk to anybody to see if I can learn . What I try to do  with anyone, no matter where they're
from, I listen to them . Try to see what wisdom I can extract , if I can get anything  out of them.
There's one girl who actually seemed to have a functioning brain there. She would ask questions,
but not in a way to put anyone down. She was trying to understand what we were saying and kind
of seeing it , like, oh okay, maybe I'll read that book , maybe I'll try this . There was a glimmer of
hope in her.

[phone loses connection]


Glen: You're back. Sorry about that.

Danea: That's alright. You warned me.

Glen: Did you hear the tractor start?

Danea: No.

Glen: I disappeared?

Danea: Yeah. I was talking to myself.

Glen: I kept saying hello hello, but I couldn't hear anything.

Danea: So yeah, that was the interesting event . Kind of off topic but I was curious about the
reasons behind circumcisions.

Glen:  Probably something to do with control. When someone inflicts pain on another person,
especially, when they're young, and don't understand the premise for what is occurring, they
will be easier to control over a lifetime.

Danea: That's quite the traumatic thing for babies to go through as well.

Glen: Yeah. When we had our three boys the doctor said that it was the thing to do, and attended
at the first two, but by the time the third one came along , we decided that we wouldn't. I don't
know in the long run, what difference it made. But I don't know if there is a visible difference to
outsiders but to me anyways, there seemed to be a different type of disposition. The first two
were a little less cooperative in what needed to be done.

The last one seemed to be more willing to help. I don't know if that's an exception or not , but I
could only do it with my children. It may have been me that changed in the interim, because the
difference between the second and the third boy , was about 10 -12 years . Hard to make a
judgment. The other two were basically within a year. The last one came much later.

Danea: Oh, you caught them back-to-back huh? So, you had your hands full for a while.

Glen: Well, the girl came first, then two boys, and all within 33 months.

Danea: 33 huh?

Glen: Yeah, 11 months apart, and then a space of 10-12 years or so, before the final one came.

Danea: Did they ever come visit you on your farm?


Glen: No.

Danea: Not even your daughter?

Glen: No.

Danea: They all think you're some crazy man now?

Glen: Well, there was a disappointment, I guess, about my change of lifestyle, and it had a direct
effect on, I guess, their lifestyle. Although, most of them were close to, or in their 20's. Only the
youngest one was teetering on becoming a teenager, or something. We had been married for 24
years. So, the first three were born in the first four years, so the youngest one would have been
20 out of those three.

Danea: When you first left to go do all that did you still have to see them?  Was it a visitation
thing? Or was it your exile? If you don’t want to talk about, that’s okay too.

Glen: I wasn't living at home anyways, so I used to pick up my youngest one and bring him out to
my place for the weekend. But the other three were already busy either with their own girlfriends,
or their own jobs, or whatever. So, they weren't kids.

Danea: Then you got married two more times, right?

Glen: No. Once, I lived with a woman for four years, and then got married to a second wife for
four years, and have concluded in my world, that the evidence suggests that four years is the
time people can live together comfortably because they're looking into each other. But after a
period of three and a half  to four and a half  years, they seem to know everything about the
other, a nd lose the interest in communications . Without communications you can have no
relationship really.

Danea: Yeah, we've heard every story up and down, and all the new stories, you guys are usually
together.

Glen: I basically accept the philosophy espoused by Khalil Gibran, in his book , “The Prophet”,
on children. He says, your children are not your children. They are life longing for itself, and you
are a bow, and they are the arrow. They live in the future. You live in the past. Don't try to be
like them, and don't expect them to try to be like you.

I think when somebody's 20, they have enough information to go off on their own, and think for
themselves. They don't have enough experience to make the right decisions on life yet, that takes
another 20 years. But it's a birds leave the nest type of thing . Sometimes when the birds are
leaving the nest, the parents decide they should go in different directions too.


Danea: Empty Nest syndrome they call that, I think.

Glen: When you lose the things you have in common, the reasons for staying together become
legal or religious, and that's not good enough, at least for me.

Danea: Yeah, I hear ya . I definitely hear ya . It's weird how situations come about where pretty
much, I'd say, all of my friends that are in some form of relationship right now, are basically, either
ending it, or it's being ended somehow, or they want it to end, but legally they signed a lease for
another year, or something like that. I'd say nine out of my ten friends, are going through that
right now. If everyone's going through that at the same time , is that some programming that's
slipping out there?

Glen: We're getting to a point where there's enough information out there for people who are
at the banquet table of life to pick out those things they believe in, and agree with, at this stage,
and it allows them to make decisions. In the past there was a very limited meal, it was like you
come for supper, what's been cooked is what you eat, type of thing.  Now life is more of the
buffet style, you have all kinds of information, and you have to go pick and choose the things
that make you feel comfortable.

So, the more things that are on the table, the more likely people are to drift apart , after a
period, as I said, of three and a half to four years.  That's what I feel. I'm not going around trying
to convince people that they should think like me. I just respond to the fact that that's the way
I believe it has happened. I'm not an expert on if people should or shouldn't stay together in a
marriage. I've done both.

Danea: In the whole marriage thing, what it ends up being is you financially providing for the child
for the most part - caregiving.

Glen: The government wants you to pay, but it wants to control. So, the longer the child stays
with the parent, the more you pay the expenses. The faster you break up, the more you release
children to then go to the government and say, I need unemployment insurance , or I need
welfare, or I need this or I need that. Then the government has to pay back the money it stole
from other people, and they don't like to do that, because they want to keep as much as they
get.

That's why in the old days you used to pay taxes, and with the taxes you got services. Now you
pay taxes, and with the taxes you get a bureaucracy, and you got to pay separately for the
services. They don't cut back on their lifestyle. Their lifestyle gets better and better all the time
at your expense.

Danea: Right. Like the public-private thing, when we pay for say, a bridge to go up , and y ou're
supposed to pay to maintain it, but even when there's no repairs and the bridge is paid for, we're
still paying tolls, and the tolls keep going up and up every year.




Glen: Hey, Hydro in Canada, you build the infrastructure and it's free. Just water making a turbine
turn, type of thing. The amount of money spent on the delivery, and that is minuscule. But the
amount of money that you pay for hydro at the house is 10 times what it was 10 years ago. So,
where did all the money go? It all went to bureaucracies.  The goal is to hire more people who
will find more taxable things, and bring in more and more money.

Danea: Yep. While the world crumbles around us. With people like for instance, the people I met
yesterday, Basically, what I found, the underlining point of your message, is that this is basically
the last 50 years. Everything else is great to know. You have to understand why it's there. But time
is running out. It’s very short. So, how long do you choose…

Glen: You're halfway in the last century, for all intents and purposes. Years ago, the last century
began, and 50 years from now, it will end. So, what are you going to do for the next 50 years?
That's the important part.  If the system so decides, they may stop it in less than 50. If you think
50, all of a sudden , may become a problem for them , ya never know, they might shut it down
tomorrow. Or at least shut down a major portion of it  - a third of the system, and that means
everybody will be forced to live a totally different life after having lost six billion people on the
planet. In any event, my friend, I have to go give the water to the animals before it gets dark.

Danea: Alright, stay dry up there.

Glen: Try again.

Danea: Okay.

Glen: Okay Danny. Bye for now.

Danea: Okay, goodnight. Bye.