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13 People Could Change This - Feb 27, 2009

Glen: Hello.

Marx: Hi, may I speak to Glen please?

Glen: Speaking.

Marx: This is Marx

Glen: Hi.

Marx: Hi, you can call me Max though. Marx is my real name. I’m friends with Jerd and Danea.
You might be familiar with them.

Glen: Yeah.

Marx: Yes, they’re good research friends of mine, and they recommended me to call you.

Glen: Are you on Long Island?

Marx: No. I live in Philadelphia.

Glen: Philadelphia. Okay.

Marx: So, over the past couple of months, I've been researching a lot of your work.  I've been a
long-time researcher of Alan Watt.

Glen: Did you write to me?

Marx: No, I never wrote.

Glen: No? Okay. Someone sent me an email, but I'm having trouble getting Bell Canada to allow
me to respond to the emails I get. I wasn't sure it might be you.

Marx: No, that wasn't me.

Glen: Okay. Sorry.

Marx: It's okay. Well, like I was saying before;  Alan Watt, he gives you a lot of information. I think
he's one of the best of the known researchers out there, but at the same time he leaves a shroud
of mystery. He doesn't really explain everything that he's hinting at, and it's really discouraging
for those of us who really want to know the whole truth.


Glen: Sure.

Marx: Like I said before, he would say some really odd and mysterious stuff and always hint that
he had more knowledge, but he would never go and give you the full story.

Glen: That's his job.

Marx: So that's why, like the people I mentioned, we're happy to find out about you because you
answer those questions.

Glen: Anything I know I will share with everybody as soon as I know it, if they care to know.

Marx: Well, I'm pretty interested in knowing.

Glen: Good. So, shoot, anything you need to know?

Marx: Well, as far as what I've been able to gather, I guess the origin story of this whole situation
starts with the human species somehow splitting in two.

Glen: Yes.

Marx: But a question that I have regarding that, I guess the story starts off with the human beings
being androgynous or hermaphroditic.

Glen: Yes.

Marx: How is that possible for mammals?

Glen: It's the natural way of being for any animal who is not certain to run across a partner . It
started with worms . If you read the background on flatworms, for example, a worm in the
ground, not knowing where it's going, can't see ahead, can't hear, no knowledge of a partner
would just die out, as humans did at the very beginning , if they had no way of reproducing
themselves. So, the female carries the genetic material for both male and female, but until such
time as the genders are divided, the female acts as a reproducer of herself.

In other words, all the female can reproduce is a clone of herself. That activity, apparently, was
the method by which Clan Mothers divided themselves and reproduced themselves while in
Africa, up until a period that appears to be somewhere between  115,000 BC and 200,000 BC.
That development occurred at one stage of that period.  Yet male did not appear until about
80,000 BC.

Marx: Okay, so you're saying that the human species came from a line of self-replicating females?



Glen: Yeah. If you do some research into the work of,
I think the guy's name is Wilson, name's on my site
there someplace, that basically studied, I think he
called the book, Search for Eve.

Marx: Okay.

Glen: It was done at a university in California, where
with the use of a supercomputer, they basically went
through the races of mankind trying to eliminate any
genetic material that was not the same and worked
their way back through what they call matrial, what's
the word?

Marx: Matrilineal?

Glen: Yeah, but there's a word in genetics I'm trying to think of.

Marx: Mitochondrial?

Glen: Mitochondrial, yeah. Until they arrived at a point where they were pretty sure they were as
far back as the oldest living human, and that was female.  There were some disputes, of course,
in the world of geneticists . Much of it based upon the fact that there is a written history and
people are not supposed to diverge from that written history. But in any event, it's pretty well
established that the original woman began at some time around 115,000 BC. There were, as I
said before, there were some many attempts at making the human species, but none was able
to carry a line through, and at one stage of the game (about 115,000 BCE) a woman was able to
carry the cloning process through from generation to generation.

Marx: Oh, okay, so you're saying that the species wasn't originally androgynous until something
happened at that point?

Glen: No, what I'm saying is that it was androgynous, but had not basically succeeded in
surviving, cloning perfectly to the extent that the next one could also clone and the next one
would also clone. So, they would start and die out, and start and die out. But by about 115,000,
it caught on, and another clone came and then gave birth to another clone and another clone
and another clone. That period in time lasted until about 80,000BCE, where something occurred
at 80,000BCE.






That something is basically what I've been looking for and trying to find the answer to.  My
conclusion is that the beginning of mankind, human beings, probably allowed what we would
call twins to be born  ⇢ one became the woman that we find in Africa, and the other twin
became the Neanderthaler . But for thousands and thousands of years, they lived in totally
different environments. Africa, jungle, animals, that type of thing for one.  The other one, more
aquatic background to the point where the appearance of the final version looks very different.

Whether that Neanderthaler was in fact what we would call male or female is not as relative as
the point that the Neanderthaler describes his period of time with woman once they meet , as
something similar to a shrub (describing themselves) meeting a flower ⇢ saying how marvelous
it is that this person is so agile compared to us who are so limited in our ability to get around ?
The reasoning behind it is that the environment of this Neanderthaler at the beginning, being
more aquatic, would cause it to basically be more along the lines of sea cows, walruses,
manatee, that kind of animal in appearance.

Marx: And it was cloning itself as well.

Glen: Apparently, it was able to clone itself because it survived.  But there was a major
difference in the mentality of the Neanderthaler and the African clan species, mother clan,
mother female. The description given in coded form , is that the Neanderthaler was an idiot
savant. Not just one person, but a number of persons. What I can figure out is the total number
they're talking about would probably be the number 144,000.

Whether that's a real number or that is a n allegorical number to basically reflect the number
nine in our numerical system is also in question, but basically in the end really irrelevant to the
development. The number of idiot savants would have been sufficient at one end, if you could
accumulate the savant parts of each one, and bring them together ⇢ much as a distributor cap
is working, bringing signals to the pistons on a motor ⇢ this one in reverse would be picking up
the brain waves and bringing it to a central computer, which is suggested is a chemical
computer.

We, bodies, animals, living things, are chemical computers.  We manufacture electrical signals
through our nervous system , and we manufacture chemistry through our endocrine glands,
pituitary glands, and such within the body , and it's the combination of the two that allows it to
happen. In the discussions about the meeting of the Neanderthaler and the Clan Mother, the
suggestions are that the Neanderthaler in looking at Matrial societies of all women working
together, but doing everything, suggested to the matriarchal clan at one stage of the game, that
it might be able to assist in providing the female with an assistant, if you will . A person who
could be more task specific for those tasks such as hunting and fishing and building houses and
whatever.





That would then allow the female more time to devote to those areas of concern that required
mental energies and reasoning, that kind of stuff . An agreement was made that by providing
eggs from young females, this species of Neanderthaler in their environment, in their computer,
could basically work out how to divide the androgynous female into two genders. What we use
as symbols to describe the story in our language is the female in genome speak is gender
chromosome “X”. What they were able to do was cut off one leg of the “X”, therefore creating
chromosome gender “Y”.

Marx: That sounds like the reverse story of Adam and Eve. It's almost like the male version of that
story where they say that they separated the rib from Adam and created Eve.

Glen: Yeah, that basically, the story of Adam and Eve comes much later, and it's a reverse.

Marx: Right, it's patriarchal.

Glen: Yeah, and that's basically the problem that we're living with today ; is the Neanderthaler
living that period from 80,000 BC until the story of Adam and Eve, (if I could try to put it as simply
as possible) felt ignored and unrewarded for having assisted the female in obtaining a servant
called male. That's why he describes himself as a shrub as opposed to a flower.

He's getting no attention in the garden of life, and the female is not giving him credit at least to
the extent that he believes he deserves. I'm using the “he”, but it's really “it”, because I have no
specific knowledge that the “he” is more important than the “it” in this case.

Marx: So, the Neanderthal separated the sexes. Did it do the same to itself as well?

Glen: It appears as if it did not take the same journey. That what it did, was it turned itself into
a computer, and has always from that point on , operated as basically a central command as
opposed to a competing animal. That's why I don't think we could expect to see a Neanderthaler
per se, ever come out and have a discussion on its role in life.

Marx: So, has it turned itself into a singular unit?

Glen: Yes. If you take for granted that there are 144,000 persons (Neanderthalers) who began this
process. They linked their brain to a central computer and from it, the computer retrieved the
knowledge that was sav ant or genius within each individual , and created a central point of
command from that point on.

Marx: So, they’re like the Borg from Star Trek.





Glen: Yeah well, I'm not too familiar with those details of what young people would call it today
because I'm 68 years old. So, in my time frame we didn't have much of that. I'm working basically
on a couple of levels here.  The first level that you can accept for granted is that I have read
Masonic encyclopedias from cover to cover . Seven book volumes, one book volume, two book
volumes, all kinds of encyclopedias and they deal with allegory and symbols.

They call it a system of morality which in fact, is more a system of Romality ⇢ Roma|It|Y, veiled
in allegory and illustrated by symbols. I then also have read ordinary encyclopedias from cover
to cover. Now the reason I emphasize the cover to cover is not for the purpose of making people
think that I enjoy reading boring stuff. It's more to tell you that the answers that you would be
looking for would not be found under the headings that you would normally expect to find
those answers.

It's only by reading encyclopedias of secret societies , or of the world we have today , and
dictionaries as such, that you end up running across unrelated information in places that you
would least expect. It's only the totality of all of that unrelated information that ends up making
a picture. Then I found their communications code.

Marx: That's the Desdemona code, right?

Glen: That's the Desdemona typeface, and it was brought to the North American continent with
the major migrations that followed the Indian wars. After the Civil War and the Indian wars in the
U.S., there was a period of about 20 years where 12 million Eastern Europeans arrived basically
into New York and spread out. In fact, it was from this group that universities came out of, and
politics came out of, and monetary systems came out of.

They basically had a code to speak within themselves, among themselves. It was mentioned in
Shakespeare in a number of places in the works of Shakespeare which is another thing that I
read along with the books of Odysseus and Iliad, that kind of stuff. Shakespeare put it as plainly
as he could when he said the whole world's a stage. You are basically a passerby on the sidewalk
outside a theater.

If you join a secret society, you may be sitting in the audience of a play, but the play is basically
allegory illustrated by symbols. You have to be at a certain level within the secret society before
you understand the full meaning of the play that is going on , on the stag e. Among the plays
there was this one in particular called Othello . The story is about the deceit by a third party
towards a male leader against a woman that he loved, which led to him killing her.

That's basically the story that we're dealing with today, is that the Neanderthaler at one stage
of the game, began to deceive the male about the female's role in life  ⇢ induced a long term
revolt against the female on the pretext that he in fact could become the leader of the Clans,
and in the end, be all powerful. When in fact, it was only a trick being played upon the male in
order to, in the end, get power into the hands of the Neanderthaler.


Or at least the Neanderthaler's computer who would then rule the world, once he didn't have
to fight female straight on . So, it became a war against women , induced by Neanderthalers
through men , to the point where women became subservient to me n, and at that point ,
Neanderthalers looking for a way to permanently disable women , used his knowledge of
genetics to infiltrate female, genetically speaking.

Marx: Is that by creating the hermaphrodite, that's female on the outside and male on the inside?

Glen: That's step number one.  Well, if you skip over a number of attempts to do that which
involves gays , lesbians, cross gender, and all of these outside elements , that attempted to
basically take over roles of women and change the roles of women. At one stage it was decided
that this task had to become epigenetic  - it had to be done internally rather than externally .
Now how this evolved was from the period of 80,000BCE to 58,800BCE.

The two communities; Neanderthaler and women with their now assistant called male , lived
in close proximity and shared much of the information that was available at that time . A
breakup came in 58,800 based upon , number one, the preferences of the Neanderthalers for
young males, and number two, the Neanderthalers lack of a feeling of self-worth. Finding no
applause for its own activity, but basically being used by the society for its knowledge. Abused
in the sense that it wasn't included, and wasn't allowed to lead the society in any way.

There was a clash of cultures that ended up in a split. The clans basically remaining in the Afar
Triangle general Eritrea area, of what we call Ethiopia today. Abyssinia is another word that was
used at the time. The Neanderthaler migrated further south into what we call the Horn of Africa,
Somalia. From that location began a project of attempting to get the clans to work for them as
opposed to the other way around . That was done through kidnappings, it was done through
bribery to get a hold of some of the younger boys.

The English language we use today is based on those concepts known to priests at the time .
Because secret societies basically come from priests, and the way priests act is the closest thing
to the way the Neanderthalers basically acted . They try to dress like women but carry with
them scientific knowledge not available to the clans . They apparently seemed to be sexed in
such a way that they preferred little boys , and they would bring them into their caves for the
purpose of abuse - what we would call abuse today.

Goats don't call it abuse , and cats don't call it abuse , and dogs don't call it abuse , but human
beings are supposed to be above that level. Neanderthalers basically wanted access to little boys
and the only place they could get them was from the clans and that's where the concept of the
word “mason” originates ⇢ Ma's sons is basically what they wanted.

Marx: So, the English language is a very ancient language that is recreating. It's actually not really
new, right?


Glen: 6,000 versions of the language is available on the planet  - approximately 6 to 7,000
versions today. The English language itself would be approximately 65% French. French comes
from Latin, which was the language brought in by the Romans from the Middle East. The Middle
Eastern language is Aramaic. If you begin with Aramaic, and you go to English what you see is
a lack of specificity along the way.

When you speak Aramaic and then Latin you find out that everything is  very specific and it
means exactly what it says. French is the closest to Latin, and English is the furthest from Latin,
in that sense. Because English being the universal language, had to be designed in such a way
that would allow a judge to interpret the meaning of a contract, for example, in a court of law.

Marx: And the judges wore dresses too.

Glen: Yeah, and a judge could interpret it differently depending on who the complainant was ,
based upon the same facts in a period of two weeks’ time, for example. I've seen it myself in
courts how they basically signal to each other who they are . From that point on the judges
interpret the meaning of words differently for the purpose of making certain that one side wins.

Marx: Right, that's very true. Whenever I hear people who are learning English, they always talk
about how difficult it is, because the same word can mean a bunch of different things.

Glen: Absolutely, and it's done for that purpose, but that's the world we live in today. You can
stomp your feet and yell out loud, but it's not going to change things. I kept trying to find how
do we find a way to change these things.  With the code being  pictorial, it basically removes
much of the nuances to the story. It requires work to grasp the concept of pictures because you
have to create the picture yourself by mirroring two of the characters , or four characters, or
eight characters on each other.

Again, the interpretation may be different if you don't position the characters properly. It may
change what you're seeing. It's like a Rorschach test where you're looking at ink blots, but if the
ink blot is not the same ink blot from one to the other , you might get a different impression.  I
don't know if you're familiar with the word “sfumato”, but it is the use of color within a painting
to put in images that are not part of the original picture you're looking at , but are coded things
hidden, and Da Vinci was an expert in doing that. Many of the great artists are experts in doing
that.

Today it's much simpler to do because it can be done with computers. Therefore, filmmakers can
make a film where you stop on a frame, and you could, if you have the proper software, eliminate
all colors but one, out of the three million different shades that you get in four color process work.
It would give you an image that the person who's watching the video would never see. But you
would see it, because you could then convert that color into black and white, and it gives you an
image. That's how a lot of the spies do their work these days. In any event…


Marx: So, Glen, how did you find out about the Neanderthals? Did you get that from the code or
did you get it from before you found out?

Glen: It was a combination of things. Basically, my own life story from birth to when this occurred
was approximately ten years ago. After a full time ten years of search, I stopped everything I was
doing twenty years ago, and began a physical search. Traveled across the country seven times ,
speaking to hundreds of thousands of people , telling them a story that I had coming from the
nation's capital listening to their stories. At the same time doing this research of re-reading much
of works that I had read (Bibles and that kind of stuff) just for their purpose which is sold to us in
school.

This is a book of religion, this is a book of words, this is a book of ancient mythology. But as I was
progressing through this process, I began to feel it and kind of relive it , much as if I was going
through a brain operation and the doctor's scalpel was touching different nerve endings in my
brain and I would be recalling things. I began basically to sense that there was something in me
that was helping me along.

Over time I came to understand to a point where I stood up from down below and  began
looking down on it , rather than trying to look from under  ⇢ I began to overstand what I was
previously understanding ⇢ looking at it from a total different perspective . Where this came
about, I discovered in continuing the process. One of the things that came about is I was studying
these worms, (flatworms and how they evolve going through the ground and everything ) and
there was a connection at that level to the word  “hair” ⇢ how they had sensory hair  ⇢ how
they could although never see anything in their neighborhood , (when you're in the earth you
don't see) they could sense vibrations from a distance , and could head in a direction which
might lead them to another flatworm.

Because apparently in the life of hermaphrodites it's normal for a line to die out, unless you get
a booster shot of meeting up with another species, another worm of the same kind, and having
some activity between the two of them  ⇢ which kind of is a booster that allows the
hermaphrodite to continue, and if it doesn't happen it dies out. There is somewhere of a link to
the Neanderthaler and the reason for it. Having originated from a similar ancestor it could provide
some of the answers that were required, genetically speaking.

Of course, I have to explain it not in a genome sense , because nobody would understand and I
wouldn't understand half of it myself. But it's converting that story into my mind that I discovered
that I had basically two minds  ⇢ one amount of gray matter resides in my brain and it's used
basically for reasoning, based upon the observations that I make, and a preponderance of the
circumstantial evidence that I run across, I can process through indirect reasoning what I believe
to be reality. But having evolved over time, from what was at one stage of the game a worm, that
became an eel ⇢ that became a reptile ⇢ an alligator type thing with legs that came out of the
water, all of those things ⇢ the common denominator in all of that , is that all of my ancestors
had an integral tree if you will - a place where it stored its information and that was the spine.


In doing research on the spine, discovered that sure enough, there is an amount of gray matter
within the spine in the same manner as we have within the brain. The difference is it has within
it the memories of life prior to us becoming the human animals that we are today and back
down to the period where we were worms . It's from that background material that women
(Clan Mothers, hermaphrodites) would in fact get intuition.

That by feeding information from the spine into the brain, the addition of intuition based upon
past knowledge would assist the person in reasoning out things today, and not going down old
paths that had been tried before , therefore, cutting down on trial and error . In trying to grasp
that concept, I kept asking myself, but how is that information transmitted from the spine into
the brain? The answer became sensory hair.

We had as time progressed much more hair than we have now. The hair acted in the same way
as it did for worms in picking up signals from the spine and bringing it forward to the head . In
trying to make a long story short, the allegory for that is written in the bible  in Samson and
Delilah. There was no way that Samson would lose his power (physical muscular strength) by
having a haircut.  But i t would basically prevent him from accessing much of the intuitive
knowledge that he needed to operate as a leader to add to the reasoning he was doing on a day-
to-day basis, and therefore, that became the allegory written for how he got to be so smart.

From that point on, I stopped cutting my hair.  As my hair grew, I discovered that the word
“intuition” is not accidental. You have knowledge given to you because you've paid for it in the
past, and it's in your tuition. When you go to college, you give them a fee at the beginning.  For
that fee, there are certain things you don't have to go around learning that they tell you
immediately. So that you know where the campus is, you know where the cafeteria is, you know
what's expected of you.

All of those background things that you need in order to then proceed to work and supposedly
learn under their direction the truth of the world.  Which is just the opposite  ⇢ their job is
basically to put you in a rut , and give you one version of activity , and arrive at a point where
they say, okay, we know there's going to be an argument.  So, we're going to give you two
versions of the activity and you can polarize around either one you want, but we won't give
you the information in the middle that is really the truth.

It just so happened that that's what they based their training of us on, because we are not really
taught anything - we're trained in order to be tamed . A train suggests you're on tracks (two
tracks) and you're going where? Uni-vers-it-Y ⇢ Single ⇢ “vers” in French, is “direction”. Single
⇢ direction ⇢ it ⇢ Y. It ⇢ two in one. So, what the Neanderthaler is doing at this stage of the
game is remodeling the work that he had done before.





In the period between 80,000 BCE and 58,800BCE, he assisted in the division of genders and
created what we call male and female now , where conception comes about by an interaction
between the two. He then in 40,000BCE, having felt slighted, began a process of creating, first
of all, a servant for himself which he called Cro -Magnon ⇢ and moved away from the African
continent to an island community offshore called Madagascar , and the other islands to the
north of it, smaller islands where you could do smaller individual testing.

Over time, from 40,000 to 25,000BCE, he decided that he needed a bigger island. ⇢ The island
of choice became Antarctica, a continent at the center of this world surrounded by the one
ocean that covers this planet . We are taught in a manner to think that there are a number of
oceans on the planet by the pictorial views that they give us in two dime nsion. However, were
you to sit in a hot air balloon over Antarctica looking down, you would see a continent from
which water goes off in all directions and makes what we call the oceans of the world , but in
fact, they are only one.

In the period of 40,000 to 25,000 BCE, Antarctica was not covered in ice . ⇢ It was a continent
with some ice and some pasture land and some agricultural land and some mountains . It was
kind of a perfect world away from the Clan Mothers left behind in Africa, and a number of Cro-
Magnon that had been created as servants for him in Africa , based basically on “his view” of
the African people, making servants that were very much like them.

“He”, or “it”, from the period of Madagascar, began to modify the version that he had made
primarily by extracting from the black , which was normal for all human beings being that close
to the equator and evolving over millennia. By extracting color, he was able to get a shade down
from black, so he would know his own crew by sight as opposed to having to question the
person, and called that person “Roma”. In our language, that's what it converts to  ⇢ it comes
from Cro-Magnon ⇢ eliminate the first letter, take the next two “R” “O”, and then go to the other
word Mag ⇢ “M” “A” ⇢ add those together and you have “Roma”.

Gnon at the end basically is hinting at Gnostics ⇢ secret society  ⇢ intelligence beyond the
norm, that kind of stuff. He took his gang with him and he went to Antarctica, and then something
happened. The name that we would have given to Antarctica at that time would have been
“Atlantis”. It began to snow and it began to get cold and it began to freeze. The snow piled and
piled and piled, that to the point where everyone had to kind of take shelter in the mountain
caves. Much in the way they had lived back when they lived in Somalia , and take refuge from
the changing climate.

Now we know that the ice age got colder and more snow. That basically would mean the oceans
got less water in them, because the water didn't run back down if it stayed someplace as snow.
Therefore, land masses were much easier to get across than they are today . There he is with
his gang underground deciding what they're going to do now, and it gets colder for 8,000 years.
From the period of 24,000 BCE to 16,000 BCE, it's getting colder , a nd then at 16,000 BCE to
8,000BCE, it starts to melt again.


By 13,000BCE, they're able to send out expeditionary teams to check out where the ice is,
what's happening, they find their place is the worst of all  – Antarctica, but the ice is receding
from the center and going off towards both ends.  So, they kind of start to make GPS
measurements of the planet based on their knowledge of the stars .  Which they had basically
been studying forever and ever , since it is something that a person who's not mobile , can
basically do easily enough.

So, they divide the world between northern and southern hemispheres , and they study the
geology of all of that . But during the period where they're living underground, they had
opportunities (16,000 years is a long time) to study the caves and expand the caves. They find
tunnels that lead to what we know today are the plates of the Earth, and therefore , discover
these as underground highways basically.

If you look at a map produced by the National Geographic Society, and you look at the smaller
map, that I have in front of me , at the bottom of the Earth's crust , you basically have an
intercontinental highway system underground below the oceans , that if you're traveling by
foot, you can get from one place to the other . Occasionally you come across dead ends, and
you find out that a rat are the best scouts. They basically, if you're cornered someplace and you
take a rat and you put him in powder and you scare the hell out of them, the rat will find the
escape - the smallest crack.

You follow the track and then you put your Roma to work, digging out that crack, and eventually
it leads to another space and another space. Perfect ability to walk, although in a strenuous way,
from one place to the other , you start dreaming of wouldn't it be great if there was an easier
way to do that? But you keep digging and going down towards the core of the Earth, and you
find that the geology of the planet is perfect for their needs.

Marx: Now, t hat's pretty interesting, because I was reading on your website that you had
mentioned that rats backwards as stars.

Glen: Yes.

Marx: So can you talk about the comparison between like...

Glen: Well, a “rat”, it becomes “tar”. ⇢ “Tar” is what we use for a road network.

Marx: But like an anagram?

Glen: In the passing of information around, you add an “S” and you have “stars”. The stars of
Hollywood, the stars of professional sports, the stars of what have you, are the people to which
young people look up to as guides in what they believe , so therefore, they concentrate on
providing people with professional guides . No longer scouts , because they don't have to
basically find the way. They now are guides because they are told through the manual that this
is the way.


But in going, if you understand the geology of the planet, we basically have a molten core. From
there, there is a mantle that holds the molten core together, what we call the lower mantle.
Above it together, the upper mantle, where one upper is not as hot as the lower mantle and can
be used for certain activities . But between the mantle and the sediment at the bottom of the
sea, there lies a coating of stuff called basalt. ⇢ Approximately 32 miles in thickness, and is the
only reason that the oceans are alive.

Because an ocean, all the oceans of the planet , started off as fresh water . They became salt
water as the living things on the earth died and ma ke their way into the water  ⇢ that's why
they say we are the salt of the earth. Add salt to the water to a point where, were it allowed to
continue, the ocean would die , a s the Dead Sea shows in the Middle East and Lake Van, for
example, in Turkey, and in the state of Utah, you have Salt Lake City by the salt sea.

So there has to be a process to desalinate the oceans and that comes through gravity and
pressures. What it does, and I'm trying to remember the figures that I read along the way, but
somewhere between 7% and 11% is the margin of salt that water can hold before it dies . The
pressures push the salt down and the salt goes down and becomes part of the sediment . But
eventually gets pushed down even further to a point where it hardens, and it becomes known
as basalt.

In the same way as “aboriginals” means out of the original, “basalt” basically means out of the
salt of the sea , ⇢ you have something better . In the English language, we start with an
aboriginal, which is basically the raw material, and we take him to college and give him a “BA”
instead of an “AB”, and he becomes an elitist out of the crowd. Well, it's the same concept here.
⇢ There's salt in the water and you get basalt once it's elitist group.

In any event, this basalt proved to be a perfect location around the upper mantle and below
the sediment to withstand any activity that might be detrimental to people living on the planet.
⇢ There are no hurricanes. There are no earthquakes. The only problem that you have to deal
with is the occasional volcano shoots through it at different places. You can identify those places
fairly easily and you can work your way around it.

So, if you have 32-mile thick shell around the mantle of the earth, and you come up with
a design for a highway system, your design would be  Buckminster Fuller's geodesic
design. You build over time, a network of tunnels that are basically triangular in shape,
attached together, giving five directions at any single point  (I think is what he talks
about). Therefore, linking the entire planet together, you can in fact, send a vehicle from
one place to the other, always taking the shortest route in this geodesic structure to get
there.

The points where things join together can be places of meeting ; agoras if you will, where cities
might exist or train stations  if you will, subway stations along the way.  Giving you, therefore,
access should you choose to drill your way out of there at any place on the planet . Or, if you
prefer, make use of extinct volcanoes as a way up, preferably for Neanderthalers themselves,
limiting your journey up to caves that would be underwater, whether in lakes or in the ocean,
and using submarines to travel from one place to the other.

I say that because that's what they say  they did in the allegory of
the whale, that a Jonah is basically an allegory of a submarine that
picked up Jonah along the way and carried him someplace else .
Repeated, of course, by George Bush 1st, who in fact, orchestrated
a similar activity over Japan during World War II by feigning the
destruction of his plane and sacrificing his compatriots, jumping
out of the plane and allowing it to crash and kill the other two
guys. While he had a rendezvous with a submarine that
immediately popped up out of the water and picked him up.

Marx: Wasn't the Jonah story the inspiration for the Noah's Ark story?

Glen: Jonah was about the destruction of evil people, and god  wanted Jonah to destroy
Nineveh, (Mosul in Iraq, in our language today) Jonah didn't want to do it. He left the Middle East
by boat, (that's the way the story goes) to go towards Spain, and many storms occurred, and the
captain suggested that it was because Jonah didn't listen to god, so whether he jumped
overboard or got pushed is irrelevant. He got picked up and was told to relive the past and go
back and do things right. Of course, all of this is all allegory.

Marx: Do you have an allegorical interpretation for Noah's Ark?

Glen: Yeah, a genetic engineer's lab. You take it and you bring it to
Antarctica, and you of course, cannot put two of every species in an
ark. But when you think in genome and the concepts of genetic
engineering, of course, you could put everything in a smaller box .
If you can put an oak tree in a little nut, you can do anything when
you're speaking of genome . That's the interpretation basically
which is given to Noah's Ark by religion.

Marx: But what about the flood? Would that be Antarctica being covered by the sea?

Glen: Yeah. The flood is not simply water . It's water unexplained, because unexplained water
can be sleet and can be ice. There's only one thing that makes this planet colder. It's the orbit of
the planet around the sun.  It's not Al Gore's bullshit about global warming . That's religion's
take on how they can use the knowledge. If there happens to be a body in the universe whose
orbit takes it outside the solar system, but close enough to have an impact on what's happening
in the solar system, the orbit of the bodies in the solar system become elliptical.

Egg-shaped as opposed to circular. If it was circular, it always would be the same temperature,
but by having to make this extra mile or two or 50 million miles, you basically remove the planet
for a period of time to a distance further away from the sun at a certain period of the year. How
far it goes basically determines how much ice gets to stay at the end of the journey before it
starts up again.

Marx: You're familiar with the Great Zodiac calendar, not the normal month calendar, but the
Great Year?

Glen: The precession; 25,800 years.

Marx: How does this play into the whole scheme of things?

Glen: Well, i t's a calendar.  They need benchmarks . ⇢ They have plans and they need
benchmarks, and precession is one great year, but you also have divisions within that year
which are based upon the solar star. In 12,000 BCE, Vega was the polar star. ⇢ Right now, it's
Polaris, and ⇢ tomorrow, 7500 AD, it will be Alderamin. Alderamin is basically when they say,
find the light, seek the light, because it in fact has 23 times the luminosity of our sun.

So, when its time comes, the earth will not be the same , so the people who are living
underground know this, and they want to prepare for that period . So, the plan they set out
would fall under the period , which they call Polaris. ⇢ That's why we have policemen and
politicians. That's why we have Hola, (Hi in Spanish) allô, (Hi in French) which basically becomes
Hi, how are you, in English . IRS ⇢ Polaris ⇢ Paris ⇢ Paris is Polaris without “O” - ”L” in it. It's
basically that journey of the word “Polaris” in its many configurations that is behind the period
we're living in.

Marx: So, is there an end goal besides the genetic manipulation? Is there a grand goal to this?

Glen: Yes, of course.


Marx: Is it to get into space and explore the universe?

Glen: No, it has nothing to do with explore per se . You have to go back to the origin of the
problem. ⇢ The problem is Neanderthaler has no sense of self-worth. ⇢ A person without self-
worth becomes a control freak . ⇢ A control freak wants to manipulate everything and
therefore, has to have a common denominator  ⇢ money. A control freak is not happy with
controlling his household. ⇢ He wants to extend it further and therefore, creates religion and
politics and corporations , because those are the instruments of control ; military are just big
corporations.

Those four groups ⇢ the military, the corporations, religion, and
politics, he uses as an example and builds it into a pyramid and
says, if you want to become important, you climb the pyramid to
the top.  You go high, when in fact the opposite is true. If you want
to know the truth and become important, at least in the context
of eternity, you go down, and that's why the word “owl” and the
word “low” are the same letters.

A pyramid built on sand crumbles and falls apart. A pyramid built
upon a pyramid that faces in the opposite direction , stands
forever. That's what we're dealing with ; what we have is control
freaks not satisfied with controlling this planet, knowing what's
ahead with Alder amin coming, decided to make themselves a
more appropriate slave for the future . In order to do that, there
was only one thing they had no knowledge of, and that was travel
in space. That's impossible to duplicate underground.

So, they had to make a series of new competitive polarized races,
who among them they would create a special group of people and
give them access to a different brain. The slaves they had created
had what we call  “ROMa” ⇢ the Read Only Memory, and they provided them with a manual
(i.e., Confucius) at a time in life . ⇢ Follow the manual, do what you're told, and you will do
okay.

But when you want to get into space, you have no manual. You don't have it, and nobody else
does, and therefore you have to change the system to make it happen. But you know that what
you're going to do  is a danger to yourself and your survival , should you allow people to have
RAM memory ⇢ Random Access Memory. They would eventually solve the problem, but they'll
solve the problem by exposing you as well . So, you have to have a very specific time frame, a
very specific location where you're going to put these people, and a shelf life that you're going
to allow this program to evolve in and take place.

Marx: So, you're basically saying that the people who are going to explore space have the RAM?


Glen: Yes, and I put it to you that those people fall under the greater name “Caucasian”, and
Caucasian back at its origin , rather than at the time we know now . Because there has been a
lot of intercommunications between the races since then. So, a number of the people who did
not have RAM memory , now also have RAM memory . However, most of them have been
concentrated in one particular area of the geography of the planet, and that is the space in the
northern hemisphere between the equator and the 60th
parallel, and that is not an accident.

That is because from their explorations down below, they
found the largest coal seams stretching across that area .
They knew that when the time was appropriate, they could
ignite the coal seams, create an induced nova in the space
above, and destroy most of the people there.

Marx: Why would they want to destroy their slaves?

Glen: Because they have to proceed to the next stage.  The
slaves would have, after their shelf life, evolved a space
program. They would then be the beneficiaries of that
information. Through things like the Nobel Prize and the Pulitzer Prizes and all of those prizes,
they gain access to all this material. They also have done physical tests upon slaves and learned
lessons and measure them at a thing called Olympics.

At a certain stage, leaving sufficient time before the cataclysmic events attached to Alderamin,
they need a beta test site. So, the northern hemisphere is like the alpha test site, and much of
the activity that happens here is now documented. As soon as (and I think it's in this year or the
latest next year) a satellite sent from Earth six, seven years ago , will pass Pluto and enter the
Oort Cloud, which is the origin of all comets coming in our direction.

That basically is the marker that the space program is finished  ⇢ a space station in place, a
Hubble telescope in place, a space program that has been defined for all intents and purposes,
to get from one rock to the other within the solar system, and finally a project that
demonstrates leaving the solar system . All of that information, along with all medical and
scientific information, is now in their hands. Shut down the people that will interfere with your
next step, which is a beta test site. Hand over to a smaller group of people all of the knowledge
known and spend a thousand years double-checking all of the figures before it's too late, is the
plan.

Marx: Now who's this smaller group?





Glen: That group is those people who live in the southern hemisphere. So that means, from my
point of view, Australia, southern part of South America, southern part of Africa, and them on
Antarctica without ice , and that's what we're going towards . They knew all along that there
would be this climate change.

Whether you're looking at Climate Change, or Colony Collapse, or Credit Crunch, these CCs are
not an accident. They're the code for packing it in, sending repo man out, get the stuff, bring it
back in, and get ready to shut this thing down, and it's to be done in three phases in this century.

Marx: My friend has told me that they're going to do the same for the northern hemisphere as
well, right?

Glen: For the southern hemisphere.

Marx: But aren't they going to do the same thing?

Glen: As they're doing now to the northern hemisphere, they will repeat in the southern
hemisphere a thousand years later. That will give them a period of time where the planet will
be lying fallow. Now they may have a small number of people (Amish are the ones designed for
the job) to keep certain areas in the north plowed.

Because what they're going to do is going to cause a blackwater moat to be
created by the collapse of the plates of the earth that are first in the northern
hemisphere between the 8th degree and the 53rd degree parallel, and bring it
down to sea level. When you do that, there's a law in physics that requires that
other places rise in order to balance off the planet again, so that they are above
sea level. Those places that will rise on the North American continent, it's called
a Canadian shelf, and it will rise as a unit.

Now that basically goes from an area, approximately,
the area from Labrador, to Great Slave Lake in the
Northwest Territories, coming down as a  “V” to this
area right here where I'm sitting , in eastern Ontario,
slightly above the St.  Lawrence River . The Great
Lakes will become one lake, one great sea, the water
will meld with the coal dust as everything churns
together underneath to basically make it impassable
in the normal sense of the word.  You won't be able
to walk across.

Marx: So how could we stop this from happening?  Is
it possible?



Glen: Of course, it's possible because it's being induced by a living species . In order to stop
something from happening, you can't do it by looking at where they are today. You have to look
at the origin of the problem. Any psychiatrist, psychologist would tell you that. What we need to
do is to arrange a meeting where it would be our task to transfer to these people , knowledge
that we believe they're important, and they should not have this lack of self-worth because of
the great things they've demonstrated they could do.

I don't think they would want to listen to us unless there was a reason to listen to us.  As far as
they're concerned today, we're no more important than an ant on Wall Street . How many
people walk out of the buildings on Wall Street and ever think that there might be an ant on the
sidewalk? None, I put it to you. I don't think it exists, but if you want to get across to them, what
they understand is power, and there is only one group of people powerful enough in the world
today to get their attention.  I put it to you that that is the U.S. military. The U.S. military has
within its weapons cache, a missile known as a nuclear bunker buster.

Marx: So, shoot that into the moho?

Glen: If there was a suggestion following a demonstration of the capabilities of this missile . If
there was a suggestion transmitted to the Neanderthal ers that the fact that  there are 2,000
extinct cone volcanoes around the world, that should they continue with their planned
extinction of the people on the planet, the U.S. military would see no disadvantage in the long
run to mutual destruction.

Two thousand, four thousand  nuclear bunker busters fired off simultaneously , aimed directly
down into extinct cone volcanoes, I suggest, would crack this planet and break it apart. Thereby
affecting the people who live within the m oho discontinuity beyond anything they imagined
coming to the planet at least for millions of years still.

Eventually, they had to plan to vacate the planet because eventually our sun, which is burning
itself to death, will not heat up this planet the way it does today , and l ike Mars, we would
become a cold place, while Venus would be more appropriate to life as we have on Earth today,
being too hot as it is under today's conditions , that would change. So, they know that long term
you can't stay in any one place forever, but they have no plan for moving in the short term.

If Alderamin becomes the polar star, and heats the planet to the point where everything on it is
destroyed for a period of time that a polar star is a polar star , (which could be anywhere from
10,000 to 15,000 years) they would not be affected by that were they allowed to remain in their
refuge of the moho discontinuity. But if they choose to destroy the people on the surface rather
than work with them, then maybe they wouldn't be around either . I'm just one person , and
when I set out on this project, I said, what is required is a critical mass of people who together
can cause will to change.




I used to think that 100,000 people who would know things , would be easy enough to find . I
discovered that it's too late for that. There's not 100,000 people who want to know things if it's
not going to bring instant gratification by giving them a million dollars or what have you for use
now. But at the same time, I learned that critical mass doesn't require 100,000 people , it
requires 13. ⇢ That's basically a rule of physics. ⇢ If every unit is a ball, and you surround that
ball with 12 balls of equal size, you provide perfect cover for the ball in the middle. The 13 can
basically be the ball in the middle depending on the activity that's happening on the outside. You
need a different setup on the outside, and therefore you bring the least helpful one to the middle.

Marx: So, 13 people can change this?

Glen: Yeah, 13 people could change this.

Marx: Now what would they have to do?

Glen: They have to know what they're talking about. They have to believe it. They have to find
all of the evidence which they need to convince themselves . I suggest that that is available if
one believes the stories written prior to the Christian Bible under the Book of Enoch ⇢ the Book
of One. That, I suggest, is partly known today by the Mormons who are trying to take advantage
of it, having certain knowledge, dealing with aging and living again.

They got that information transferred to them in New York State to Joseph Smith , about 400
miles away from here, but they only got part of the information. It came to them through a long
process that includes the Hindus and the Buddhists and the Chinese and Japanese and
Mongolians and Persians. They are basically not sharing that information with us. But I believe
the second half, which is more important because it was really the first half, which is the unified
theory of the universe and the derivatives thereof, is available.


If people were to see that it was available and it answered all the questions that anybody in
science has, there would be no doubt that there is a bigger plan that has been put in place.
Then would be able to work their way up the ladder to convince the U.S. military they have a
role to play in this.

Marx: So, wait, you said the unified grand theory of physics?

Glen: Yeah, of the universe.

Marx: And, okay, clarify this a little bit. With this knowledge, they'd be able to climb up the ladder
and explain to...

Glen: Yeah, they'd be able to prove to the doubters in the scientific community, if there are
such, or in the military community, or in the communities of those people not actively
attempting to cause us this pain, agents-

Marx: So how would they be able to convince them?  What would they be doing that would
convince everybody else?

Glen: Well, they would see that we have been stressed on purpose , and the purpose was to
gain information through science that could be used simply by the group of people collecting
it, and for that purpose, they used us as guinea pigs. They had no problem with killing us off if
there was a lesson to be learned by the process of killing us in singles, or dozens, or hundreds,
or thousands, or millions at a time, if that solved some of their purposes.

They had basically the challenge of getting into space, but they also had to resolve the problems
of living, and those are linked to pestilence, famine, disease, war, peace, all of the things . So
therefore, they imposed all those things upon us, making us search cures, and then checked
out the cures to see if they really functioned. But did not give us the answers that they should
have; cures for cancers, cures for heart and stroke...

Marx: Excuse me, Mr. Kealey. My phone is going to die pretty soon.  So, if it just hangs up while
you're finishing up, I apologize.

Glen: I'm basically done unless there's something else you want to discuss.

Marx: Well, maybe I'll think about calling you back some other time because I still do have more
questions.

Glen: Yeah, write them down so you don't forget.

Marx: My friend told me you had an emailing list.


Glen: Yeah, but there's no guarantees at this point because it looks like Bell Canada is out to cut
off my ability basically to send out anything. They tried at first by cutting out my incoming mail,
and I got around it anyways. Now they're working on a project to cut off my outgoing mail. So,
this morning I wasn't able to do my normal posting. I have some limited venues that I do, and it's
probably easier to go that direction to be sure you see what I am able to post if I'm able to post
anything.

That's basically the Yahoo communities. I use three venues on there.  The one that is easiest to
identify is called Draco Debate. I suspect it was originally put up by Democrats. Sounds like it
could even be Democrats from Quebec, but I have no knowledge.  At one stage of the game, I
posted and everybody else stopped posting, and now it's mostly just my posts.

So, if you go to Yahoo Groups and you find Draco Debates and you click on that, you'll be able to
go back in their file and read and see what I put on.  If Bell Canada, (who is in fact “Baal”, the
religion of Canaan) if ever they change their position, and decide they'd rather live than die with
the rest of us, maybe they'll let me post and stop bothering me on a daily basis. Take for granted
every time you call here that they're all listening in. Hey, that's the world I live in.

Marx: Alright. Thank you for your time, Mr. Kealey.

Glen: Okay, bye.

Marx: Bye.