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13 or B – Feb 3, 2009


Tom B: Hello.

Jerd: Hey, hello, Glen.

Tom B: Glen's coming here.

Jerd: Oh.

Glen: Hello.

Jerd: Hello.

Glen: Hi.

Jerd: That guy sounds just like you, man.

Glen: He does?

Jerd: Yeah.

Glen: That's Tom, our cook.

Jerd: Oh.

Glen: He rents a room upstairs. He's the only boarder right now.

Jerd: I thought you lived by yourself.

Glen: No. The house has four rooms that could be rented. Sometimes the four rooms have been
rented and I live in my RV outside. But when there are no boarders, I gotta take care of the house.
So, I kinda move into the basement, into what I call my cave.

Jerd: Hehe, the hideout.  I'm kinda curious because I heard  you said, in Freemasonry, they're 90
degrees, like a right angle.  Why would they say 360? Because it adds up to 360, but why would
they say…I've heard Alan mention, oh, 360 degrees and stuff like that, and they call them the
Olympians or whatever, these guys.

Glen: I'm not a Freemason and I never have been as far…

Jerd: No, I'm not saying you. I never said you were a Freemason.


Glen: No, no. So, I am only speaking of what I have discovered along the way.

Jerd: Oh, okay.

Glen: To me, the 360 thing would be linked to the circle they put around the cross on some
churches. It basically is suggestive that everything they begin takes off in a direction and ends
up going full circle. The two big symbols of that are in Australia. The marsupial is the symbol for
an interrupted birth  - an interrupted development of the fetus . Because at one stage of the
game, the kangaroo and other marsupials would have the fetus crawl out of the mother and into
a pouch where it completes its birth cycle - its evolution.

That is basically what they do when they manufacture two -in-one people - they interrupt by
means of spontaneous abortion the development of the fetus. Then put it in an incubator; live
or mechanical, where it continues its journey, and comes out different than how it started. Male
on top, female inside, or female inside, male on top, or whatever. The other symbol of Australia
is that they have a weapon called a “boomerang”.

Jerd: Oh, how it comes back to you.

Glen: You throw it and it comes back and hits you in the back of the head. The word “Aussies” as
well is linked to the French word “assis”, which means “seated”. You don't do anything - you just
begin the process and wait until it comes back to you . You sit down and wait. That's why they
say they also serve who only stand and wait or sit and wait.

Jerd: So, what's the symbolism? I remember reading in the Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike, he
brought up the egg. I think it's supposed to signify...

Glen: Well, the egg is the beginning of things. The egg is shaped in a way that the orbit of Earth
around the sun can change the temperature, the mean average temperature on Earth at a certain
stage. The egg is designed the way it is so that it doesn't stay in the same place all the time. The
temperature of something inside an egg varies depending on where the yolk happens to be . If
you are at the end of the high point on an egg, you are the furthest away from the chicken sitting
on you, therefore the temperature would be cooler.

If you're at the circular part, the temperature would be warmer.  The difference is minuscule, a
couple of degrees, but it can make the difference in the development of some parts of the fetus.
That's basically linked to what we're going through now - climate change. The melting of the ice
can occur on this planet with the simple change in the mean temperature by two degrees. That's
simple enough to understand.

You put the sun in the middle and you make a circle around it, the temperature would be constant.
But if you make the orbit in the shape of an egg, you can understand that at one stage of the
game, the earth is further away from the sun than it is normally. That means it gets cooler - ice
age.


Jerd: So, the whole thing with global warming, from what I learned, they're just using it as an
excuse to take people's rights, more rights away from people.

Glen: Yeah, it's a way to make money prior to the destruction. It's because you're going through
a process called “repo”. They're repossessing everything that Marco Polo was given . Not
satisfied with having been tollgaters on everything that was made from what he brought back
through things like taxes and fees and those kinds of charges.  They now wanted all of the
technology back so that they can do a final check on its validity , and destroy the rest of the
people in the southern hemisphere . Then move underground and wait for this event that will
change the planet.

The number of events include the water coming on land from the seas and oceans . Rocks falling
from the sky from some cataclysmic event of crashing , or exploding the moon, or something to
that effect. Then the nova that lights the coal seams. The word “concern” is not an accident. The
particle accelerator in Switzerland is called CERN. So, the phrase “to whom it may concern”.
“Con” is basically conducting. Whom is conducting the CERN particle accelerator in May. All of
these things are linked.

Then you have the final because these are the three events that happen on Earth. The final thing
is the coming of the second sun . The second sun is a sun outside of our solar system . Some 77
light years away or something, that is going to bring 23 times the luminosity of our current sun.
The blue white star; it's what they basically designed the concept of the Virgin Mary around.

Blue white clothing, and the fact, that it's going to make a totally different place, where they will
be introducing a new slave that will give birth by means related to virginity.

Jerd: Yeah, I see. Giving birth to it.

Glen: Take it out of a jar and stick it in and it gets fertilized by the male part on the inside that
carries one teste, and you have a baby from the egg.  But you're limited by the number of eggs
you have.


So that the controlling interest back in Antarctica and the Moho
discontinuity will always be in charge no matter where you happen
to be in the solar system . If you start up a revolution like what
happened in the U.S., which is the model for this, and say you want
independence, well, you're not going to have the eggs to replicate
your colony colonialists. So, it’ll will just die out, and then you'll be
replaced with a new more obedient group.

Jerd: So,  these new slaves, they won't be able to think for
themselves, they'll just be like a bee, right?  Like a part of the borg,
right?

Glen: Yeah. The model that they give is the letter “E”, capital letter
E. As a matter of fact, I was just doing a thing to post on that.  The
letter “E” is suggested that there's one person in charge. If you look
on the left-hand side of a capital letter “E”, there's a bar from top to bottom.  Then there's three
lines attached to it.

Jerd: Three in one.

Glen: The brain, the medulla, and the body all are linked directly without going through each
other to the control mechanism bar one. So, this year, what we're getting is a “10”. A “10” is the
first version of this future slave , but it's not the final version . It’s like computer programs, you
know, they put out Netscape 6 and then Netscape 6.1 and Netscape 6.2.

Jerd: So, these things won't be like people like me, they won't feel like attracted to another…

Glen: No. They will have a single mind.  That's why they call it universe. Uni means single , and
verse means direction. “Vers” in French - towards. So, it's a single direction. All they care about
is their work, and their work is linked to the boss . And they want you, like they tell you in the
Bible to adore the boss. So that's the concept that they have in mind.  Total control freaks, and
therefore obviously missing in some sense of self -worth. They can't like themselves too much
and therefore make up for it by being control freaks, instead of repairing the problem of why they
don't like themselves.

Jerd: But these people are such geniuses, 1% genius, that they can't figure this out?

Glen: They obviously have not to date, and maybe we can help them.

Jerd: The way the Neanderthalers appear, they don't look anything like they show…



Glen: No. How would anybody who looks like they show cavemen , describe themselves as a
shrub? It doesn't make sense.  How could they describe themselves as hippopotamus or
alligators? It doesn't make sense. What does make sense is that they're short and plumpy, and
alligator basically suggests lizard-linked to the spine.

Jerd: Oh, so they look like reptilian people or something?

Glen: I would suggest look like hedgehogs. A hedgehog or porcupine type animal that rolls itself
into a ball when it's afraid of something so that there seems to be no place to get at it. That's why
they call their religion baal.

Jerd: Oh.

Glen: The perfect ball is 12 around 1 according to the laws of
physics. I think I told you that before that there was a spacecraft that
was sending a satellite to a rock out in the universe someplace, and
that this particular rock had absolutely no gravity , and therefore
anything that would attempt to land always crashed.  There was
seemingly no way to stop it from destroying itself on landing , until
somebody read the laws of physics. The laws of physics say that the
perfect defense for a seed, for example, is an orange.

If you take the peel off an orange and you look at
it, you will find that it has pieces that are linked
together in a ball around the center  - 12. So, 12
around 1 seemed to be the answer.  So, they tried
it. They actually made a satellite, put it inside a
balloon, put 12 balloons of equal size around it
(everything deflated, of course, for the trip). When
it got too close to the stone they wanted to land
on, they ejected it and pushed it in the direction of
that stone and inflated the 13 balloons and it
bounced on that stone and it took quite a while
where it stopped bouncing, you know, just roll
around, boom, boom, boom.

But because there's no gravity, it took a while and eventually it settled as it ran out of steam.  It
settled in one place, then they deflated the 13 balloons , and cut a hole from the center out and
out came the rover or sensor satellite, or whatever it was they were sending out there.

Jerd: So, I always thought part of the reason why they had satellites out there , was to watch
everybody on the surface.


Glen: Well, part of that is true if you consider the International Space Station as a platform and
the Hubble Telescope future use and real purpose, it will be turned around and focused towards
the Earth. You know what happens when you focus sunlight through a prism and point it down
to a particular place - you start a fire. Well, that's the whole idea. After they got rid of most of
the people, they got to get around to killing off the stragglers , and that will be one of the
weapons that they use.

Jerd: Damn, man, these people are like cold-hearted, so clinical.

Glen: In the same manner as you are when you walk down Madison Avenue and you don't give a
shit about ants.

Jerd: But these guys don't care about life period.

Glen: Well,  they do care about life because they care about survival for themselves . They
obviously are intelligent enough that they've figured out where the safest place on this rock is.
The safest place has to be underneath those things that can be affected by things in the solar
system on the outside. That's the sediment at the bottom of the oceans, the continents, and the
oceans themselves. So those things can be affected by a Nova, can be melted in some places, can
be rebuilt in other places, new mount ains can arise, new continents can arise, to balance off
because you always have to keep that equilibrium.

They figured out, okay, well if that's the case, then if you go to the core of the Earth, it's too hot,
if you go to the mantle it's too hot, but if you go to the upper mantle it's so -so. But the perfect
place is where all of the things that ever lived on the surface of the earth find refuge after they
die. The salt of the earth comes through the ocean, because the ocean used to be fresh water,
and what we are is basically water and salt. So, we come through the ocean and we've brought
it up to a level, a percentage salt to water, which is amenable to having life exist. If you pass that
point - if you put too much salt in water, you kill off the possibility of life.

So, through the gravity and pressures in the ocean, it pushes all of the excess salt down to the
bottom, through the sedimentary stuff on the bottom . It then builds a shell around the upper
mantle of the earth, which at this stage of the game, I suggest is 32 miles thick. It encapsulates
the whole inner part of the earth  - by that I mean the upper mantle, the mantle and the core .
It is made out of a material called basalt, (two-in-one salt) because the letter “B” is a two and
the letter “A” is a one.

Jerd: Oh, that's why they always put  AB everything, Aboriginal…I thought it meant able -bodied
or, altered being.

Glen: No, it means “out of” - out of the original.

Jerd: That's why they have Abraham Lincoln, hehe


Glen: Nothing that you see on earth today has not been affected by this process of making
things happen and giving it names that match the code. That's why you have to stop looking at
books as books. You have to stop looking at chapters as chapters. You have to stop looking at
paragraphs as paragraphs . You have to start looking instead at syllables , because it's the
syllables that are the common denominators between all of the philosophers' building blocks.

Jerd: Hmm.

Glen: So, if you have a syllable, you go looking for other words with the same syllable, and you
read definitions on all of them, and you'll find common denominator, and you'll know what the
purpose of this word is - what it suggests.

Jerd: I've heard you mention too , that the Native are aware of this plan and they're not doing
anything...

Glen: Some of the Native people were told at the beginning that there would be a cleansing of
the surface of the earth at the end, and that they would survive, and kind of be in charge. That
was to buy their allegiance to the bigger plan , than just their lives . Along the way, what
happened is, the information was passed from generation to generation through what we call
languaging. No written stuff  - just person to person , and over time , the thing got corrupted .
Although they believe certain things today, they are not what was the original message. You can't
say all Natives believe, because some Natives don't know anything, and some know more.

The ones that know more have been corrupted and brought into the system , so that they
provide an additional weapon for the system who use corporations, religion, monarchies, and
governments to oppress people from above . Some Native people are used to complete the
circuit from below so that they squeeze the slaves in the middle . Those people can act as
couriers for the system above. They act as a guilt trip on taxpayers . Taxpayers had nothing to
do with their problems, but are always asked to apologize to
them and feel inferior to them.

But in fact, they are simply people who have been
manufactured originally out of the original Africans . Their
name is “Cro-Magnon” and their name since the Ice Age , is
“Roma”. In Europe, they call them Roma or Gypsies. Around
the rest of the world, they are called “Indigenous”, which is
linked to the word India and us. Another word is Ab -original
or Ab-originee, because the two E's together is what makes
the definition of the two in one slave  - the number 88. So,
the final number of degrees is 90 on the upswing , and
therefore an 88 is your final versions before you get to the
two gatekeepers, which I suggest are Ma Bell and Shell Oil.

Jerd: Oh really? Why do you say Ma Bell and Shell Oil?


Glen: Well, Ma Bell is the major spy upon the people of the Earth through the telephone system
that we have, and Shell Oil is the one that has the links to the underground. If you look at some
of the ancient symbolism, a shell coming out of the ocean pulled by 11 white horses called
Neptune.

Neptune is linked to the word Sept in French which means seven and Un means
one. Seven and one is eight . Eight is the number for man , and the second
version of man is 88. If you take a capital letter E and you mirror it on itself it's
a number eight. If you put two E's together it's a number 88.

Jerd: You seem to have a different definition with the numerology. I thought like
with the 360 again- 6 + 3 = 9, and 9 is completion, but you said 9 was something
else.

Glen: 9 was the temporary version of a perfect slave that they made along the
way. I suggest gays and lesbians would fit the description , because it's made in the image of 6
which is the number for a woman. A 9 is made to look like a 6, and creates the equilibrium. But
in the final version, sex is not part of the equation  - you have a hermaphrodite, so they're not
looking for sex. They're basically wanting to impregnate themselves. That's why in the colloquial
English they tell you “fuck you” - it basically means “fuck yourself”.

Jerd: So how do they do this?  Like you said , they basically engineer ed gays and lesbians and
different types of humans. How do they do this?

Glen: Well, it's fairly simple if you look at the symbolism.  The symbolism is woman is an “X”. If
you break a leg, you make a “Y” - that's male. Therefore, if you break a leg but leave a little piece
on there, that’s a male with a little more female.

Jerd: But how do they introduce it in society?




Glen: Through monasteries at the beginning. What they call Vestal Virgins, and the sacrifices of
the priests; the Aztecs, the Mayans used to sacrifice people . The first thing you got to do is
collect eggs. So, you sacrifice people so you can do a hysterectomy , get the eggs out , and put
them in storage . Then you have a basic batch of gazillion eggs.  Now the thing is you put your
people to work  - don't forget, these people had thousands and thousands and thousands of
years to do this.

We think of 2000 years as a long time.  But you can believe that  the process began at least in
125,000 BC, and the understanding of genetic engineering by Neanderthalers had occurred by
80,000 BC because that's where we see the first male appear in the Clan Mother community.
So, they go from being hermaphrodites to two genders. So, take the time from 120,000 down to
80,000 - that's 40,000 years they had to work this problem out. All it is, is basically doing a study
which comes to grips with the concept that in the egg are all the answers.

In the egg are all the instructions for everything that will make a human being . With the
exception of, it needs to be kickstarted with a fertilizer.  What you have is these guys and I call
them guys, but they may not have been anything more than “its”. They start working on the
problem of separating the instructions into placing them in jars, single instruction jars . So, the
genome is broken down, and it says there are 125 - 144,000 separate instructions. Now to make
a person you require approximately 25,000 instructions out of this vast collection of 144,000
choices you got to assemble together 25,000. But even at that stage 25,000 ,98% of that and you
end up with a bat or something like that. So, what is really important is the last 2% or 3%.

[Phone rings…]

Hang on a second, I gotta take this, and I may have to go.

Jerd: Alright.

Glen: Hi Barbara. I’m just finishing the call here…five minutes. Thank you. Sorry, I had given her
an appointment. I didn’t know you were going to call at this specific time. But that’s the basic
thing - you separate the instructions into separate bottles. Then you get an egg, you open it up,
you throw out what’s in it , then you start saying I’ve killed off 25 people who were all good
athletes, and therefore, the instructions in their DNA had these particular instructions (and I
suggest that those are neede d for good athletes ). So, they start assembling a person through
instructions and stick it in the egg.

Then they find out that , yes, they did it right or, no, there’s something wrong, and they go back
and look at their numbers again . Trial and error , is basically how they get through this . That
allowed them to arrive one day, and meet the clan mothers, and say, clan mother, you could have
slaves of your own who would do most of the work for you ; the manual stuff and if you want, I
can do it. All I need from you is some eggs. So can you give me a couple of your ladies here, and
I’ll do a hysterectomy, and then I’ll make you some samples.


From the eggs they got , they made men.  Men became the slaves of women.  They didn’t call
them slaves in those days they called them helpers . Eventually they suckered the men to take
power away from the Clan Mothers because they could control the men through instant
gratification - sex and a sandwich. That’s where we are today.

It’s just a process of them refining and testing ; trial and error, trial and error, trial and error .
Now they’re at the point where they’re creating the basic model  - the TEN. But from the “10”,
they have to refine the finer points, and make an “11”, and a “12”, and then finally, they’ll get
what they want in a “13”. A “1” with a “3” beside it, looks like the letter “B”.

Jerd: So, would you say all that stuff about men being leaders of the family , and stuff like that,
that’s all...

Glen: It’s all bullshit.

Jerd: Oh wow.

Glen: It’s all bullshit. It’s all designed by the priests to get men to do certain things along the
way that bring the process closer and closer each time to what they want . Marriage is bullshit
- religion is bullshit - politics is bullshit. They control it all. You get to vote for one of the three
crooks they’ve chosen before you vote. Okay, that’s basically all it is, and the media runs it all .
The media is the spy in the middle that pretends it’s on your side, but in fact, what they’re there
for, is to polarize opinions.

The place from which they ran a lot of this stuff was in the Pyrenees because, on one side they
had their warrior Spaniards and Portuguese who would travel the world and take over things.
On the other side they had the French who would stay home and sit and wait. Below them they
had the priests, and priests could promulgate language, and that’s what they did. The Germans
are the instigators, the Nazi, because the philosophy of these people is fascist, it’s Natsi.

Jerd: I thought really fascism and communism were the same thing, socialism, really at the root…

Glen: Well,  it is  - only the difference is who’s running the show . In a socialist country it’s
bureaucrats, and in a capitalist country it’s corporations. So, it’s all crap. There’s nothing out there
that is true to what people believe it to be, and it will eventually be proven to be just that. My
job is basically to find the concrete evidence of that, and that I believe is a stone which is linked
to the story of Enoch and Methuselah in the Bible  - that’s the symbolism for it.  I believe it
happens to be here under my feet on this farm in Oxford-On-Rideau, Ontario, near Kemptville.

Jerd: When reading the Bible, how do I better understand the allegories? Do I need some type of
groundwork?




Glen: Yeah, you need age. You need to be old enough to have experienced a lot of things. When
you experience things, you find out the difference between what you’ve been told, and what
they really are. Then you go back and you read their stories, and you can sense as you’re going
through, because you’re not only reading with your brain, but you’re analyzing with your spine.
So, if your spine is functioning, you get intuition, it matches up with your reasoning and the
two of them put together allows you to break down allegory and symbolism.

As I said before, one of the best ways to physically improve that is to grasp the concept of
Samson and Delilah, and know that what they’re talking about is not muscle, but hair. Let your
hair grow beyond your shoulders. That way you will at least have half a chance. The next thing,
is understand French because most of this was written in the French language when it first
started. It makes it easier to convert words you read in English over to French. Then you know
what the real definition of what they’re talking about is.

Jerd: You were saying too, about modified food, like there’s no point, because we’ve already all
modified. So, you would go and just eat like McDonalds right now and not even care?

Glen: Absolutely, I’ve eaten anything and everything throughout my entire life, and I don’t think
for a minute that my diet, which is totally balanced between everything . I put no basic limits on
it, it has kept me alive for 68 years and if I had a normal diet would physically keep me alive for
the amount of time which is allotted to people on this planet because we’re genetically fixed to…

Jerd: So why would they alter the food then? Why would they do that?

Glen: In order to create dissension and two teams ; polarize people between one group that
believes it, and one that doesn’t. That’s the whole process , and it’s based on the polar star
which is called “Polaris”. It’s in there that you’ll find the words, the syllables to “IRS” and “Ola”,
which means “Hi” and “P”. When you pee, what you’re doing is getting rid of dead cells , and
they consider us to be dead cells, and they want to pee us out of their lives.

Jerd: Wow. Because with the GMO food, because I see the Egyptians, they used it to control their
slaves, that’s why they lasted so long.

Glen: No, that’s the stories - that’s the media version. All of this that you’re telling me is things
you’ve read about, is accepted general knowledge, well it’s lies. Everything the mass media sells
to the masses is lies.

Jerd: Yeah, it’s just for the masses.

Glen: The word “mass” comes from the word “ass” - you’re a donkey carrying a message, down
from the mountain with a message up her vagina . That’s how they used to travel when they
brought messages from the monastery on top of the mountain in order for it not to be stolen .
They wouldn’t carry it on a horse because a horse was valuable and somebody would want to
steal it. But who the hell would want to steal a donkey who doesn’t listen?


Jerd: Wow.

Glen: So, they stick the message or the pouch with jewels or whatever, in the vagina of a donkey
and walk it down and go to wherever they wanted to go - the next monastery over and bring the
messages there of what was required. When the donkey lost its purpose because it couldn’t be
used in war, they then made horses, genetically engineered horses . They made sure that the
best pack animals they had were made from a horse having sex with a donkey. Therefore, they
would make a mule , and the mule is the model of what they’re doing today. An animal that
cannot reproduce on its own , needs an artificial insemination , or it’s just going to die out ,
because it can’t reproduce itself.

Jerd: Wow. How would you suppose the Neanderthals, are they still like, I guess, hermaphroditic?

Glen: I have absolutely no idea if they as a breed, once they transferred their intelligence over to
a central command, if they continued living . Or if in fact , it’s not the computer today that runs
the show on their behalf.  That’s the story of 2001, A Space Odyssey. You have this computer
called HAL, and now we know that there is in the Moho discontinuity a computer called HEL. So,
HEL is running the show, and its devils are out all over the place making us believe bullshit.

Jerd: Yeah, but then I thought another thing behind the movie was how the guy overcame Hal
and became god.

Glen: Well, that’s who they are. They are gods, which is  dogs backwards - they go fetch. They
bring everything back to them and make people stupid enough to go and put it in the hole
themselves. Got to go.

Jerd: Okay

Glen: Bye.